Warren Commissio
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共 400 题- UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT PRINTING OFFICE
- WASHINGTON, D.C.
- U.S. GOVERNMENT PRINTING OFFICE, WASHINGTON: 1964
- CHIEF JUSTICE EARL WARREN, _Chairman_
- J. LEE RANKIN, _General Counsel_
- Foreword
- Preface
- Contents
- Preface vii
- COMMISSION EXHIBITS INTRODUCED
- Hearings Before the President's Commission
- Assassination of President Kennedy
- TESTIMONY OF MRS. LEE HARVEY OSWALD
- Mr. RANKIN. Mr. Chairman, excuse me, the interpreter----
- I think now we are ready to proceed, are we not, Mr. Rankin?
- Mr. RANKIN. Will you tell us----
- Afternoon Session
- TESTIMONY OF MRS. LEE HARVEY OSWALD RESUMED
- I didn't know that he intended to do it--that he was planning to do it.
- I don't know--I am not a criminologist.
- Mr. RANKIN. Do you recall any other----
- TESTIMONY OF MRS. LEE HARVEY OSWALD RESUMED
- Mr. RANKIN. We had a report that----
- I don't know--perhaps this is foolishness.
- Mr. RANKIN. And what was her----
- I hope you understand that.
- I am asking about which period is it. I don't remember the dates.
- I want to help you, but I don't know.
- Mr. RANKIN. What did they say about----
- Mr. RANKIN. I shall hand you Exhibit----
- Mr. RANKIN. I shall hand you Exhibit 4 for identification----
- Mrs. OSWALD. I can't do that, because----
- Afternoon Session
- TESTIMONY OF MRS. LEE HARVEY OSWALD RESUMED
- Mr. RANKIN. At that time----
- I think that he was confused himself, and I certainly am.
- Mr. RANKIN. Then he goes on to say----
- I don't have it, it was in Paine's notebook.
- Mr. RANKIN. Now, you have described your husband's----
- Mr. RANKIN. So, in effect, the FBI was----
- Mr. RANKIN. Now, during this period of time----
- TESTIMONY OF MRS. LEE HARVEY OSWALD RESUMED
- Mr. RANKIN. Did you handle the finances----
- Mr. RANKIN. Returning to the----
- Mrs. OSWALD. It seems to me it was the envelope----
- Mr. RANKIN. Had there ever been----
- Mr. RANKIN. Can you recall----
- I don't know now. He would take it off at work.
- I didn't know what I was doing.
- I don't know.
- Afternoon Session
- TESTIMONY OF MRS. LEE HARVEY OSWALD RESUMED
- Mr. RANKIN. Did you ever know----
- I said, "That is right."
- Mr. RANKIN. And your ill feeling towards the FBI was----
- Mr. RANKIN. Did you----
- I think that is just simply idle talk, that she didn't have anything.
- I don't want to see her, I didn't want to.
- I hope you will bear with us.
- I haven't seen her.
- I would like to consult with Mr. Thorne and Mr. Gopadze.
- I received 45 and I would have had to pay 30 for an apartment.
- Mr. RANKIN. Did he----
- TESTIMONY OF MRS. LEE HARVEY OSWALD RESUMED
- The next entry says, "Transferred to the job of pharmacy assistant."
- Mr. RANKIN. Do you know why----
- I offer in evidence Exhibit 24.
- Afternoon Session
- TESTIMONY OF MRS. LEE HARVEY OSWALD RESUMED
- I believe this is the third.
- Mr. THORNE. Exhibit No. 71. Two envelopes. 71-A----
- Mr. THORNE. Exhibit 105 is a notebook----
- Mrs. OSWALD. This is my book, some poems by ----
- I see that for the first time.
- Mr. RANKIN. Exhibits 150, 151----
- Mr. RANKIN. It has a mark "Brent long tail sanforized."
- TESTIMONY OF MRS. MARGUERITE OSWALD
- I can produce these documents for you.
- Now, there is another----
- I want that for record.
- I make the statement perfectly plain. And so the documents stay with me.
- I would like to request that, please.
- I ask that that be granted.
- Mrs. OSWALD. No. And I appreciate the fact----
- Mrs. OSWALD. Now, I will start----
- I wanted to state it clearly in the beginning.
- He said, "Mother, you are not going to write a book."
- He said, "Mother, that is an international song."
- She would say--I would say, "Marina, you now nurse your baby."
- Or "No time."
- With motions--"no time. Mama."
- I say Marina nursed the baby.
- I had the car and the television, and we went around.
- And "I no like, Mama."
- She said, "Mrs. Oswald, what build is he?"
- I made coffee, and the house was in order. There was nothing packed.
- I said, "Marina, Mama come see you. You no home, Marina."
- I sat in the car all day long. She didn't show up.
- He said, "Oh, I guess she is out with some friends."
- I walked in the home with my son.
- Mr. RANKIN. Did she take the baby with her when you looked----
- He said, "Mother, that is our affair."
- The policemen do not know I am here--"I want to talk to FBI agents."
- I said, "I know you do. But I would like Washington men."
- I said, "I have not seen my son in a year."
- So they came in. And I said, "Bob, I have rights and I want to see Lee."
- And I said, "Mrs. Paine, you spoke English. Why didn't you contact me?"
- I am going to say again I did not see my son.
- I didn't know who they were.
- And she said, "Oh, yes, he just was a little upset about what happened."
- I said, "Oh, Marina, police." I didn't think anything of the picture.
- She says, "You take, Mamma."
- I said, "No."
- Mr. RANKIN. By holding it up, you mean----
- And I had been telling Marina, "No, no."
- He said, "Mother, don't worry. I got that in a scuffle."
- Mr. RANKIN. And he had a telephone on his side, and----
- He said, "But you have not given us any facts."
- He said, "Mrs. Oswald, I would like to ask you a question."
- Mrs. OSWALD. Because they wanted Marina----
- I am under the impression that Marina was threatened----
- Mr. RANKIN. And when they could not show it to her----
- I am ahead of my story.
- He said, "I am sorry, but I won't talk to anybody I don't know."
- He said, "I am sorry, but I won't talk to anyone I don't know."
- And I said again, "Well, you know my son real well."
- He said, "Oh, you are Mrs. Oswald."
- I went with the uniform.
- I told him exactly.
- I have found out since that my son was shot. But they did not tell us.
- I was kind of having my way about this.
- I am ahead of my story.
- Representative FORD. When you washed your uniform, didn't you----
- Mr. RANKIN. When you washed your uniform----
- Mr. RANKIN. And then after you paid the bill there----
- Mr. RANKIN. Now, this was after----
- I will go on to that story and tell you. No, sir, we did not know.
- Mr. DULLES. If the time is 11:30----
- If you will bear with me, I can go into----
- And I said, "How badly?"
- He said, "In the shoulder."
- He talked, and then he turned around and said, "Lee has been shot."
- I said, "How badly?"
- He said, "In the shoulder."
- I cried, and said, "Marina, Lee has been shot."
- I said, "My son is gone isn't he?"
- He said, "Yes, Mrs. Oswald, your son has just expired."
- I said, "No, I want to see Lee now."
- Marina said, "Me, too, me want to see Lee."
- So she said, "I want to see Lee, too."
- After Mr. Gregory said that--"I, too, want to see Lee."
- I said, "Yes, I understand."
- So on the way, leaving the body in the room--I am in the room----
- The CHAIRMAN. I think she has gotten to the point----
- Afternoon Session
- TESTIMONY OF MRS. MARGUERITE OSWALD RESUMED
- Mr. RANKIN. You are pointing to----
- Mr. RANKIN. Before we go on----
- I said, "Let him keep his personal opinions to himself. He is on a job."
- I said, "We will never make it. Marina is so slow."
- She said, "I no slow. I have things to do."
- Now, here is another instance----
- I said, "Well, Robert, why didn't you tell me?"
- He said, "Because just the way you are acting now."
- Mr. RANKIN. Now----
- I packed during the night, sat up in the chair, as I said.
- I am sorry, gentlemen, but this is a true story.
- So 2 weeks later----
- Mr. RANKIN. '61----
- Mrs. OSWALD. Yes, sir. And I also say----
- So he said, "Well, is your attorney in town?"
- I said, "No, he is not."
- I said, "The papers will stay with me."
- He said, "Is your attorney in there?"
- I said, "No, sir, he is an out of town attorney."
- I said, "That is just fine."
- So she said, "Mrs. Oswald, they have their orders."
- I said, "Well, where is Mr. Howard?"
- She said, "He is on his way to your home."
- Mr. Mike Howard said, "He heard you, Mrs. Oswald."
- I said, "No, I have not seen my daughter-in-law since Thanksgiving Day."
- I said, "No, sir; it is not true."
- TESTIMONY OF MRS. MARGUERITE OSWALD RESUMED
- Mr. DOYLE. If it please Your Honor----
- Mr. LANE. Mr. Chief Justice----
- Mrs. OSWALD. No, no----
- I have to think of all these things, who might be involved in this.
- Now, this particular instance----
- She said, "What is your son doing in Russia?"
- I said, "I don't know."
- I said, "Young lady, I said I do not know what he is doing in Russia."
- She said, "Well, Mrs. Oswald, I don't have a key."
- Mr. RANKIN. Can't we get down to----
- He said, "Mother, I have quit school."
- I said, "Lee. We cannot do that."
- He said, "Everybody else"--
- I said, "No, I am not going to do it."
- I don't think you have.
- Mr. RANKIN. What do you think you have said that caused you to think----
- Mr. RANKIN. You think the recruiting officer inspired him----
- Mr. RANKIN. And you base the idea----
- Lee says in the letter, "Marina's uncle is a major in the Soviet Union."
- She said, "You will leave now or I will call the police."
- So he said, "We will talk about it in the morning, Mother."
- I didn't answer Lee.
- Mr. RANKIN. But he----
- Mr. RANKIN. They might have done that----
- I don't think I am forgetting too much.
- I don't know what that is.
- I was successful because of my trip to Washington, as you know.
- I hold a lot of these answers, gentlemen, as you know by now.
- I want to get to that psychiatric. There will be a story there.
- I don't understand this--do you?
- I see Marina and the child--the girl and the baby, it could be Marina.
- Mr. RANKIN. And that is the girl----
- Mr. RANKIN. And you pointed out the girl on the left column----
- TESTIMONY OF MRS. MARGUERITE OSWALD RESUMED
- Now, do you know if Lee----
- The CHAIRMAN. And the one you were speaking of----
- I asked--well, he will get me the letter, I am sure.
- Mrs. OSWALD. Yes. "I desire to inform"----
- I ask you if Exhibit 205 is a correct transcription of your letter.
- I would like to know why.
- I make that statement for the record.
- I have sold a few pictures in order to live.
- I am afraid that they may get lost.
- Mrs. OSWALD. No, sir--but with another----
- I read that afterwards.
- I believe we have cleared up the business today that we have missed.
- I expect to write to anybody officially to rectify this mistake.
- I have the name of the man I talked to.
- I don't want to get into my story, though.
- I am probably forgetting some things.
- He said, "What did you tell your boy, Mrs. Oswald?"
- I said, "Judge, I asked him if he had an earache."
- I didn't know they were going to give me the child then.
- I left the courtroom with my boy. He was given to me in my custody.
- I am going to stress this.
- So, I said, "Is it all right? They won't arrest us and bring us back?"
- Mr. RANKIN. That is----
- I am not saying it correctly.
- Mrs. OSWALD. Yes, that is the photostatic copy----
- I made a special appeal to the President.
- Afternoon Session
- TESTIMONY OF MRS. MARGUERITE OSWALD RESUMED
- He said, "Mrs. Oswald, just ring the phone. Do you know the woman?"
- And I said, "Yes."
- He says, "Listen to me."
- I am trying to point out the kind of man he was.
- I will try to get to the very beginning of my life, Chief Justice.
- I didn't see Mr. Ekdahl for some time and----
- I believe I have covered everything. I am not quite sure.
- 262 is a picture of Lee in Atsugi, Japan in 1958 showing his strength.
- Mr. RANKIN. Now, was there a little child like that at this----
- I don't see any other answer to it.
- TESTIMONY OF ROBERT EDWARD LEE OSWALD
- I furnish these to the Commission for the Commission's information.
- Mr. JENNER. When you say "we"----
- John, of course, started----
- I do not recall attending for a very long period, because I believe----
- I interrupted you--pardon me.
- Mr. OSWALD. Well----
- Mr. OSWALD. Edwin A. Ekdahl. I believe his middle initial was "A."
- Mr. OSWALD. I believe the first year----
- As I indicated, at that time----
- I would like to correct that.
- I retract that statement.
- I have seen those.
- Mr. OSWALD. Conversations, and also being----
- Mr. JENNER. 19----
- And I said, "Well, we can start right now."
- Afternoon Session
- TESTIMONY OF ROBERT EDWARD LEE OSWALD RESUMED
- Mr. JENNER. And, at this time, your brother Lee was enrolled in----
- Mr. OSWALD. I feel like it was, sir. He had previously----
- Mr. JENNER. And you were discharged from the Marines----
- Mr. OSWALD. Yes, sir. This was----
- Mr. JENNER. Would you elaborate----
- Mr. OSWALD. If I may in my own words here, sir----
- Mr. McKENZIE. All right
- Representative BOGGS. By tacit, do you mean that----
- Mr. OSWALD. I believe your last question was whether or not----
- Mr. OSWALD. No, sir----
- Mr. DULLES. And this was----
- I called the Western Union and sent telegrams, and at this time----
- TESTIMONY OF ROBERT EDWARD LEE OSWALD RESUMED
- I said, "No, I have been able to keep it quiet."
- Mr. OSWALD. "Sunday, January 13, 1964. Jim advised that"----
- Mr. OSWALD. Yes, sir. The last line is "told her this story."
- Mr. OSWALD. We had a discussion----
- You have an entry in your diary under the date of January 13, 1964----
- And then she related----
- She said, "No, he did not spank me."
- I must be going to my conference. So we will recess for just a moment.
- But we will----
- Mr. JENNER. Well, the inference of the 6 weeks----
- Mr. OSWALD. "If she knew Lee had"----
- I take it the balance of that page?
- Mr. OSWALD. "for me to come to his office" and a date----
- Mr. OSWALD. "Complete with Marina."
- Mr. OSWALD. "around 11 a.m., the first great shock of the day"----
- Mr. JENNER. Now----
- I have a general idea, of course.
- Mr. JENNER. Yes. Two of these items are not in exact sequence, but----
- Mr. JENNER. Now, Mr.----
- Mr. OSWALD. "Trade Union Hall on the Main Street."
- Mr. OSWALD. "A square in Minsk."
- Mr. OSWALD. "April 30, 1961. Marina--Lee."
- Mr. OSWALD. "Marina, wedding day, April 30, 1961."
- Mr. JENNER. And the postmark is----
- Mr. JENNER. That is the postcard the witness----
- Now, Exhibit 321----
- I have the letter before me now, sir.
- I ask you this question first.
- Afternoon Session
- TESTIMONY OF ROBERT EDWARD LEE OSWALD RESUMED
- Mr. OSWALD. All right. Yes, sir; that is correct. And that he was----
- Mr. OSWALD. Yes, sir. I also----
- Mr. JENNER. Now----
- Mr. JENNER. Your shock, if I may call it such, had been conditioned----
- I did not enclose any money in my answer.
- I recall I did reply to that statement.
- Mr. OSWALD. I also----
- Mr. OSWALD. I feel that it was, particularly to Lee, because I----
- Mr. OSWALD. While he was----
- Mr. OSWALD. Well----
- Mr. OSWALD. I believe in his letters----
- Mr. McKENZIE. When you say did he raise again----
- Mr. JENNER. Did he or they----
- I will find out who I should see about making these.
- Mr. OSWALD. I did not see him on November----
- Mr. DULLES. And then you returned to----
- Mr. OSWALD. It did to this extent, that I thought perhaps----
- Mr. OSWALD. And she stated to me----
- Mr. OSWALD. That a picture that an FBI man----
- Mr. OSWALD. Yes, sir. And I understood that----
- Mr. OSWALD. This took place at the Inn----
- Mr. JENNER. In order that I don't try to examine over 20 pages----
- Mr. OSWALD. Not to my knowledge, sir. I might----
- After my discussion with Mr. Martin on this question--
- I might add nor myself by the FBI agents.
- Mr. OSWALD. That she did not----
- Mr. OSWALD. He said, "Robert, I cannot tell you what to do."
- As the other gentlemen arose----
- Mr. JENNER. Now----
- Mr. OSWALD. During her recent stay at my home in Denton, Tex.----
- Mr. McKENZIE. Is there anything----
- Mr. OSWALD. Well----
- Mr. OSWALD. The cause of that split, sir----
- Will you tell us about it? What led to it and----
- Mr. OSWALD. Yes. I might add very courteously, inquired----
- TESTIMONY OF ROBERT EDWARD LEE OSWALD RESUMED
- My wife----
- Mr. OSWALD. "Well, don't you know, sir?"
- If I may, sir----
- Now, the reason I would like to put it into the record----
- Mr. McKENZIE. And, further----
- I was not here when Marina testified.
- Mr. JENNER. And----
- Mr. OSWALD. Surprised----
- Mr. JENNER. Have you had any conversation with Marina----
- I am still of that opinion, sir.
- Mr. DULLES. As this covers two of my questions----
- I will proceed with a couple of questions I have at this time.
- I am talking now of the period after his return from Russia.
- Mr. OSWALD. "Yes; I know. I just heard."
- Mr. JENNER. And a reference to that----
- Afternoon Session
- TESTIMONY OF ROBERT EDWARD LEE OSWALD RESUMED
- Mr. OSWALD. If I might----
- I notice you mentioned a Highway 80.
- Mr. OSWALD. "Not too informative on either side."
- Mr. OSWALD. From Lee Harvey Oswald, during our conversation or our----
- My reply was "I am fine."
- Mr. OSWALD. If I could, possibly, sir, at this time----
- I have one question, only one.
- I only have a few brief questions, Mr. Chairman, if I may, sir.
- Mr. McKENZIE. Have you told the Commission----
- Mr. OSWALD. To that----
- TESTIMONY OF JAMES HERBERT MARTIN
- I assume, gentlemen, you did receive a copy of that letter?
- Mr. MARTIN. No. They, the Secret Service told Robert about it, and----
- Mr. RANKIN. Was anything----
- Mr. RANKIN. In the parts that are stricken out----
- Mr. MARTIN. This has been a very confusing 2 months----
- Mr. MARTIN. No. Anything that----
- Representative BOGGS. Well now----
- Mr. REDLICH. You said that----
- Mr. MARTIN. It is a handwritten----
- Now, in the case of Texitalia Films, for instance----
- Mr. MARTIN. No, this was sometime ago. That was before----
- Mr. MARTIN. Yes. And it was----
- Mr. MARTIN. Well, because this, for instance----
- Mr. Chairman, I offer----
- Mr. REDLICH. Yes. You are reading from----
- Mr. MARTIN. Well, in this type of thing----
- Mr. REDLICH. May I interrupt and suggest you don't thumb through----
- Mr. REDLICH. What is the nature----
- Mr. DULLES. Could you give us other examples where----
- Mr. REDLICH. I would like to call the attention----