Mr. JENNER. The Xerox machine was unable to pick up the signatures?
Mr. McKENZIE. No. The prior photocopy was unable to pick up the
signatures.
Mr. DULLES. Because they had not been put on, or because they didn't
pick them up?
Mr. McKENZIE. It would not pick them up, Mr. Dulles. The signatures
were on the instrument itself, but the photo machine would not
reproduce the signatures.
Mr. JENNER. You actually saw the signatures?
Mr. McKENZIE. Yes, sir.
Mr. JENNER. Where did you see that document, Mr. McKenzie?
Mr. McKENZIE. Marina N. Oswald gave it to me in my office.
Mr. JENNER. Would you state the thrust or substance of those agreements?
Mr. McKENZIE. The substance of it is that Mr. Thorne and Mr. Martin, as
principals, constituted the First National Bank of Fort Worth as the
agent to hold certain trust funds, consisting, as shown by the exhibit,
attached to this exhibit, of $25,000.
Mr. JENNER. It was deposited with the First National Bank of Fort Worth
under this trust and deposit agreement, agency agreement?
Mr. McKENZIE. Yes, sir.
I presume that to be true. I know Preston Utterbach. And if his
signature was on it, I know that the funds were deposited there at the
bank, or else he would not have executed it.
Mr. DULLES. Could I ask the source of these funds, if you know?
Mr. McKENZIE. I do not know them, sir. But Marina Oswald has told me
that she felt that the funds came from contributions made to herself
and her children, from various sources, of which I know nothing.
Mr. JENNER. Excuse me, Mr. McKenzie.
Did you use the word "felt." She told you she felt?
Mr. McKENZIE. Yes, I did.
Mr. JENNER. That is the extent of your personal knowledge?
Mr. McKENZIE. Yes, sir.
Mr. JENNER. Mr. Oswald, do you have any personal knowledge, apart from
or in addition to that of Mr. McKenzie, with respect to the source of
the funds?
Mr. OSWALD. I would say this was monies received through the mails,
and delivered in person to Mr. Thorne or perhaps Mr. Martin by various
people who wanted to contribute to Marina's welfare and her children's
welfare.
Mr. JENNER. Upon what is your statement based? Conversations?