Representative BOGGS. By tacit, do you mean that----

Mr. OSWALD. An unspoken agreement that we never would discuss it.

Representative BOGGS. I understand. Had you arrived at this agreement

because on previous occasions you had disagreed about political matters?

Mr. OSWALD. No, sir; that was not the reason. We just never discussed

politics.

Representative BOGGS. Did you have any interest in political affairs, I

mean----

Mr. OSWALD. A little bit, sir.

Representative BOGGS. I mean from a philosophical point of view?

Mr. OSWALD. My own interest in politics from a philosophical point

of view would be that I considered myself a conservative, a born

conservative. Certainly agreed 100 percent with the U.S. Constitution

and the laws that are set forth, and it is my upbringing, it is what I

always believed in and I will always believe in it.

Representative FORD. Did you say that was your mother's philosophy, too?

Mr. McKENZIE. No, sir; he did not say.

Mr. OSWALD. Would I say that?

Representative FORD. Yes.

Mr. OSWALD. I would say--I will tell you, at this present time I feel

like perhaps she has been hurt a great deal and perhaps her thinking

is being changed at this very moment and at the present time since

November 22d.

But prior to that time my opinion would be that she would be of the

same opinion that I was.

Representative FORD. That is why you said your attitude was based on

your upbringing.

Mr. OSWALD. Yes, sir. Of course, to qualify that my mother didn't

actually bring me up too much. The orphan home and the military

academy, and I believe there my basic philosophy was formulated. It was

a very good school.

Representative BOGGS. What military academy was that?

Mr. OSWALD. Chamberlain Hunt Military Academy at Port Gibson, Miss.

Representative FORD. During the 6 or 8 weeks that Lee resided in your

home, did he ever indicate why he went to Russia? You must have talked

about it some.

Mr. OSWALD. There again I believe we did more talking through the mails

about why he went to Russia than we did when he returned from Russia.

I, of course, wanted to talk to him about this.

Mr. DULLES. You have those letters, I believe.

Mr. OSWALD. Yes, sir; we have those letters.

Mr. McKENZIE. Those letters have already been given to the Commission.

Mr. JENNER. We will present them in evidence, I think probably this

afternoon.

Representative BOGGS. Did he ever tell you?

Mr. OSWALD. No, sir; not point blank did he ever tell me why he went to

Russia.

Representative BOGGS. Did he tell you why he came back?

Mr. OSWALD. Yes, sir; that he was in--the letters that I have from him

while he was in Russia would indicate the same thing, that he was very

unhappy living in Russia and he wanted to return to the United States,

which, of course, made me very happy, and I felt like, and tried to

look at it from the standpoint that maybe he just sowed some wild oats.

He kind of went off to the far end of it, but I believe everyone of us

at one time, especially around that age, might have done something or

reached out far afield, so to speak, before we came to our senses and

returned to a normal life.

Mr. DULLES. Did he seem different when he came back from Russia, was

there a change in the man before and after?

Mr. OSWALD. Physically?

Mr. DULLES. No, I mean at all--changes, outlook, attitude and

general----

Mr. OSWALD. The mental attitude he had from his letters that he wrote

me when he first arrived in Russia were quite disturbing to me.

Statements, various statements, I can't quote them word for word, but

in the line of--well, he wanted to denounce his citizenship. He was a

Marxist and he was a Communist and he wanted to stay in Russia, and so

forth.

But when he started writing again in 1961--yes, 1961, his letters

certainly indicated that he had changed his mind, and that he wanted to

return to the United States and start his life as a U.S. citizen.

Representative BOGGS. You got to know Mrs. Oswald when she returned

with him?

Mr. OSWALD. Yes, sir.

Representative BOGGS. Was the relationship between your family and your

wife and Mrs. Oswald, of course, I realize you had a language barrier,

but was it pleasant?

Mr. OSWALD. Yes, sir. I would describe it as very pleasant. We

immediately, my wife and I both, took to Marina and June, the baby, at

that time, and my wife and I both were just tickled to death, so to

speak, for an opportunity to be with somebody like Marina and to show

her things that she had never seen before in her life.

Representative BOGGS. In the time, of course, you had known her ever

since she came here, and you have seen her since the assassination of

President Kennedy, have you had any feeling that she was anything other

than a normal housewife? You know there has been speculation that in

light of the fact she was born in Russia and that she got an exit visa

without too much difficulty that maybe she had connections that were

not entirely just that of a normal housewife. Did you ever have any

feeling----

Mr. OSWALD. The only time I had any reservations about Marina Oswald

was on Friday, November 22, until approximately 2 days later. I say

during this 2-day period I was not sure whether or not she had been

involved in any of the happenings of that date. I wanted not to

believe that she did, but I wanted to be cautious about it. I believe

on Sunday night, November 24, in my presence she gave a complete--and

freely stated everything up to that time that she was aware of to the

U.S. Secret Service on a tape recorder. And I formulated my opinion

then that apparently, and I feel this way now, that she did not have

anything to do with that, and she is nothing other than just what she

appears to be, just a housewife, having a very difficult time at this

time.

Representative BOGGS. Have you in your own mind reached any conclusions

on whether or not your brother killed President Kennedy?

Mr. OSWALD. Based on the circumstantial evidence that has been reported

in newspapers and over the radio and television, I would have to say

that it appears that he did kill President Kennedy.

Representative BOGGS. Would you, having reached that conclusion under

the circumstances that you outlined a moment ago, and having known him

all of his life, although not too intimately the last year of his life,

would you give us any reason for why he may have done this?

Mr. OSWALD. No, sir; I could not.

Representative BOGGS. It came as, I would think, a great shock to you?

Mr. OSWALD. Yes, sir; it certainly did, and I might add that the Lee

Harvey Oswald that I knew would not have killed anybody.

Representative BOGGS. Have you discussed this matter with your

stepbrother since it happened?

Mr. OSWALD. Yes, sir.

Representative BOGGS. This, as I understand, Mr. Counsel, is hearsay

but we are just trying to establish----

Mr. McKENZIE. Mr. Boggs, in order that the record be absolutely clear,

you were not here when we commenced this morning due to your duties at

the House, let me state this for the purpose of the record and yourself

and the entire Commission, you ask Robert Oswald any question that you

want to ask him.

Representative BOGGS. Thank you very much.

Mr. McKENZIE. And furthermore, any information we have or any

information we can get from any source will likewise be turned over to

the Federal Bureau of Investigation or to this Commission or to any

other investigative agency, because----

Representative BOGGS. The mandate that we are operating under is that

we discover the truth.

Mr. McKENZIE. I can assure you, sir, that the main reason that we are

here, and I speak for Robert Oswald, is to see that the truth is given

fully, and developed as fully as possible, to give any light to this

tragic event.

Representative BOGGS. I just have one or two other questions.

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