Mr. RANKIN. Do you recall what you did say? Did you say anything like
this?
Mrs. OSWALD. No, sir. There was nothing said to this reporter about
President Johnson--because I believe my son is innocent. So if I say
that, then I would be saying that my son is guilty. And that is why the
President is now the President. No, sir. I did not say that.
Mr. RANKIN. What reporter for Time Magazine was that that you were
talking to?
Mrs. OSWALD. I can find out the name for you, or I can think about it.
Let's see. I think the name is Sullivan. I did not want to think--but I
think it is Sullivan. Do you have that information?
Mr. RANKIN. No.
Mrs. OSWALD. Well, I will get it for you, or maybe it will come to me.
Mr. RANKIN. All right.
Mrs. OSWALD. But I do know, because I was paid for the picture--one of
the pictures in that magazine.
Mr. RANKIN. We would appreciate your telling us as accurately as you
can.
Mrs. OSWALD. I want to give you any and every information I can.
The CHAIRMAN. Did the man who interviewed you in this matter also pay
for the picture--the same man?
Mrs. OSWALD. Yes sir--for the Time Magazine.
Mr. RANKIN. Did he pay you for any part of the story?
Mrs. OSWALD. No sir. No, I am wrong there, he did. He paid me for part
of the story. That is not the story.
This isn't the story that was supposed to have come out. It was a much
nicer and softer story. But we have found out that when we give these
press notices, that they don't come out the way you give them. And they
explain--like if I was to tell Mr. Sullivan, "I am disappointed in
your story"--"Well, Mrs. Oswald, our editor edits to make room," and
so on. That is what you get. I was disappointed in the story, because
the story was that I felt so sorry for Marina, to think that she had to
go through the rest of her life thinking in her mind that her husband
was the killer of President Kennedy, and that she would have to tell
her children that she had gone down in history, that their father was
the killer of President Kennedy. And I went on with a long story. I
said--they said "Marina had stringy hair, and she didn't have this or
that." Let me tell you, I would rather have Marina with the stringy
hair and less clothes, but thinking that her husband was innocent, like
she thought the 3 days I was there--rather than the picture now, where
she smokes, she no longer nurses her baby, she left her baby in Texas
to come to the Warren Commission, which is not the Marina I know.
"Marina, Mama, no, no, she never left her children." And well groomed.
But she thinks now her husband shot President Kennedy. What an awful
thing. I would much rather have no money and stringy hair and be the
girl I was before, and believe my husband was innocent.
The CHAIRMAN. How much did Life pay you for your story?
Mrs. OSWALD. Is that pertinent?
The CHAIRMAN. Or Time, rather.
Mrs. OSWALD. Is that pertinent to the Commission, or is that my
personal?
Mr. DOYLE. I don't think the Chief Justice--he has simply asked you
a question. If you wish to answer the question that is fine. If you
don't, if you tell the Chief Justice you don't wish to answer the
question----
Mrs. OSWALD. Well, it doesn't have any bearing. I think the amount I
got would be immaterial to the Commission. I don't know.
The CHAIRMAN. Well. I think it might be material under some
circumstances. But if she doesn't wish to tell us, that is all right.
Mrs. OSWALD. It is not--just like the pictures. I want you to have the
pictures. And you didn't seem to think they were important enough.
I am asking if this is important to the Commission, because that is my
personal life. It is no crime to sell the pictures. I have no job or
income. If I want to sell a picture to a magazine or a newspaper, and
protect myself financially, I am going to continue to do that.
Mr. DOYLE. The Commission has stated to you that it would be interested
in knowing, that it feels it might be of some value to them. But if you
do not wish to say anything about it, they would not press you.
So again, it would be completely up to you.
Mrs. OSWALD. I think that would probably, like these pictures, be my
personal----
Mr. RANKIN. Did you learn about the attempt of your son to shoot
General Walker?
Mrs. OSWALD. I am delighted you asked me that question. I have these
notes here, and didn't go through that.
The first time I knew about General Walker was through the paper.
Now, I became indignant. I do not remember the quotes. But why I became
indignant, was that I had Lee's handwriting in Russian. But no one came
to me to find out about this note. That is the part, gentlemen, that is
so peculiar about this whole thing.
I understand through reporters that the note was shown to Mrs. Ruth
Paine, and wanted to know if the handwriting was Lee's handwriting. But
no one has come to find out if I had any handwriting of Lee in Russian,
which I have.
Mr. RANKIN. Did you think this was in Russian?
Mrs. OSWALD. Yes. I am under the impression that the note was in
Russian. It stated in the paper.
Mr. RANKIN. When did you learn about the Walker incident?
Mrs. OSWALD. Through the newspaper. And it has been changed, the story,
now. If I can remember. Now, I will get this for you. I have a friend
that has one of the most complete scrapbooks in the United States, that
helps in this investigation. And I can get all these articles, sir. And
I will help in every way possible.
If I remember correctly, it was stated that Marina found this note in
the room that says "I may be arrested, and if so get in touch with the
Russian consul" and told her where to go to the jailhouse. I wish I
knew the exact quote. So we are getting back to an agent now.
From what I remember in the beginning, he did not say in the note that
he was going to kill General Walker--that he would be involved in
something that might cause him to be arrested and so on. I remember
this. That was in the very beginning, sir. It came out in Fort Worth,
Tex.
So he is going to be involved in something. That doesn't mean he is
going to shoot General Walker.
Mr. RANKIN. When did you learn that he did try to shoot General Walker?
Mrs. OSWALD. As the story started to leak out from the paper, what we
call leaks. I have to say this, because we are investigating this. I
am not the main investigator. But I talk to people. They call, and I
get letters from them. Every now and then Mr. Jim Martin, who is the
business manager for Marina, would quote Marina--not Marina, but he
would quote Marina about General Walker, quoted her about thinking in
her mind that her husband had killed the President.
And I was firing back through the newspapers and saying Mr. Jim Martin
was an American citizen, and I didn't appreciate him quoting my
daughter-in-law about these things, because they are of no advantage.
How can they prove that Lee had killed General Walker, because now
maybe they would not have the bullets--and so on. It happened before.
Mr. RANKIN. You knew that he was not killed.
Mrs. OSWALD. What good would it be for Mr. Martin to make a statement
like this that Marina said, and publicize it, when they possibly could
not now prove that Lee had anything to do with it, gun or bullets or
anything. I could not see his purpose in doing this--which has hurt my
daughter-in-law very much. I have many letters from people expressing
their opinion that they did not appreciate her coming out with these
remarks. But it is Mr. Jim Martin.
Marina is a foreign girl, and doesn't know what these people are doing
to her, Mr. Rankin. I have publicly fought this over and over--if
you have my quotes from the Fort Worth Star Telegram and so on, and
probably the New York papers. I deeply feel sorry for Marina. Marina is
a Russian girl. Maybe if her husband was picked up to be a murderer,
maybe they would shoot him in Russia. I don't know.
But here we have an American way of life that Marina is not familiar
with.
Mr. RANKIN. Don't you want her to tell the truth about it?
Mrs. OSWALD. I want Marina to tell the truth just like I want to tell
the truth. But from my testimony here, I have found out that Marina has
lied.
Mr. RANKIN. What have you found out about the Walker incident? Have you
found anything about that was untrue that Marina said?
Mrs. OSWALD. That Marina said it?
Mr. RANKIN. Yes.
Mrs. OSWALD. I have not heard Marina say it. I have not heard Marina
say it. I can answer this way. This comes from Mr. Jim Martin. There
is many, many things about Mr. Jim Martin and Mr. Thorne that I don't
think maybe it is right that I should say these things in front of the
Commission, because they are rumors.
But a rumor, you will have to, in a case as big as this, and where
there are so many people involved, you have to analyze these rumors. I
will say this: I understand from many, many a source that the Dallas
Bar Association is going to have Mr. Jim Thorne before them. Now that
is my understanding there.
Mr. RANKIN. So all you know about the Walker incident is what you have
read in the papers.
Mrs. OSWALD. What I have read in the paper. And I certainly did not
appreciate that. Mr. Jim Martin is a citizen, if Marina is not.
Mr. RANKIN. Now, did you ever ask your son, Lee Oswald, whether he was
an agent of anybody?
Mrs. OSWALD. No sir, I have never asked Lee Oswald if he was an agent
because I felt like he would not tell me.
Mr. RANKIN. But you have not asked him.
Mrs. OSWALD. No, I have not asked him.
Oh, one very important thing that I must tell you. On November 26--that
was the night of November 26, and the day of November 26 was when I
found out that Marina was going to live with someone else, and we
had no contact. So I knew I wasn't wanted or involved. I was in the
bedroom. And I left the Inn of the Six Flags, gentlemen, under strict
security protection. I opened the door and had my coat and pocketbook,
and I went out doors. And I was about 15 feet when they realized that
I had left the Inn. Now, there was a man on the outside, stationed
there night and day. But there was a little arbor. And this was in
the bedroom. We had two entrances--one to the living room and one to
the bedroom. I opened the bedroom door. I had my coat and bag and I
was going to go home. I was going to take a bus and go home because I
didn't get to talk to my daughter-in-law--they had taken over.
And I was 15 or 20 feet when two agents came and took me by the arm
and I went back in. I didn't make a stink or anything about it. And
that night I sat up all night, and the next morning I insisted upon
going home. But the point that has to be made is was I under arrest or
not--since these men came and took me by the arm and brought me back to
the Inn of the Six Flags.
The CHAIRMAN. Were you all dressed to go home when they took hold of
you that way?
Mrs. OSWALD. Yes, sir, when they took hold of me this way. And I didn't
say anything. I just went back in. So then the doctor--I do not know
his name, you have his name--the doctor came in to see the children,
they had diarrhea. And the man whispered something to the doctor. And
we closed the door. The doctor asked me for Lee's social security
number. And I have testified that I had gone home the night before to
get all my papers, after much persuasion. I started to look through the
papers for Lee's number. And I started to cry. He and I were in the
room alone. I think this was purposely, because they said something to
the doctor.
I said I am very upset and told the doctor what happened. And I said
"You know, my heart is breaking. I cannot understand how they would do
something like that, and not tell me about it."
So he talked with me, and he gave me two pills. When we opened the
door he said to the agents "She is all right, she has a right to her
feelings." So they must have thought that I was--something was wrong
with me. They thought--because I took the attitude immediately--well,
Robert said it--I said "Why didn't you let me know." "Well, just
because the way you are acting now." I said "How am I acting. I
am acting in a normal way. I have lost my son. Now you have made
arrangements without consulting me to take my daughter and two
grandchildren to live with strangers. This is a normal reaction. Am I
going to say yes, take my daughter-in-law and grandchildren, I don't
need my part of them."
This is a normal reaction.
Reverend Saunders, Louis Saunders, who is a minister at the grave,
accidentally came at the very last minute. He had not preached a sermon
in 8 years. He is head of the Council of Churches.
He heard we could not get a minister so he was able to come at the very
last minute. And Rev. Granville Walker was sent to my home in Fort
Worth, Tex., the next day after I arrived home, to help, to console me
about this case. So he said "Mrs. Oswald, I understand that Marina has
been offered a very fine home, and how do you feel about that. Are you
not glad that your daughter-in-law is going to be taken care of and the
children have an education."
I said "No, Reverend Saunders, I do not feel that way about it. Those
are material things. How do we know if these children will live to
derive any benefit from this education. I think that we should stick
together as a family. Her Mama, like she wanted. The girl said she has
no Mama. Everything was arranged for the Mama. She is talking about
money and material things. I expressed my opinion at the Six Flags,
that we start with $863--no contributions were coming in. And then if
we cannot make it, then let the ones that are so concerned help us. And
I remarked--I am working for a very wealthy woman.
Who knows, maybe she will give us $5,000. Let us stick together as a
family. Reverend Saunders says "Mrs. Oswald, your philosophy of life
is beautiful, and it is a Biblical way. But you know you have to be
practical."
So the very next day, sir--and this is in "Christianity Today," to
prove my point--Mr. Jim Cox, who writes for "Christianity Today" and
is a Star Telegram reporter called me and said "Mrs. Oswald, Reverend
Saunders called me and wanted me to get a story from you, because he
thought you had such a wonderful philosophy of life."
I sat down, and Mr. Jimmy Cox stayed home from Church--I gave Mr. Jimmy
Cox a story that is in Christianity Today, that only goes to ministers,
and it is because of Reverend Saunders. So I do have people to testify
about this particular thing. And I did act in a normal way. That is a
normal reaction, to not want to give up my family.
Mr. RANKIN. Mrs. Oswald. I will give you Exhibits 206 through 227, both
inclusive, and ask you if that is--if those are photostatic copies of
your correspondence--would you look at each one of them--with the State
Department that you have referred to in your testimony?
Mrs. OSWALD. Yes, sir. Do you want the numbers as I go along?
Mr. RANKIN. No. You just look at them.
Mrs. OSWALD. That is correct.
Representative FORD. These are copies, Mr. Rankin, of her letters to
the State Department and the responses?
Mrs. OSWALD. That is correct.
Mr. RANKIN. Yes, that is correct, is it not, Mrs. Oswald?
Mrs. OSWALD. Yes, that is correct.
Mr. RANKIN. And these copies were made under your supervision were they
not.
Mrs. OSWALD. That is correct. And I voluntarily gave you every copy I
have. That is correct. That is correct. That is correct.
Some of this seems to be scratched out here.
Mr. DOYLE. On Exhibit No. 221, there seems to be some X markings
around. Will you put that aside, and we can compare that with the
original.
Mrs. OSWALD. This is correct. That is correct. That is correct. I
don't remember writing to Mrs. James. I remember calling her on the
telephone. This is my handwriting. I guess I did.
Yes, that is my handwriting. That is correct.
That is correct. That is correct. And this is correct, but should have
a card with it.
Mr. DOYLE. You are referring to 227?
Mrs. OSWALD. Yes. And it should have with it a card, a postcard, from
Lee.
Mr. DOYLE. Set 227 aside with 221.
Mr. RANKIN. Do you have a copy of 221?
Mrs. OSWALD. Yes.
Mr. RANKIN. Will you please check to see that is a correct copy.
Mr. Chairman, I think that we might gain time now if we would check
these exhibits out with Mrs. Oswald, and be able to offer them at
whatever time we reconvene. That is all we propose to do now.
The CHAIRMAN. All right.
Mrs. OSWALD. This is the card that should have gone with that.
Mr. RANKIN. Mrs. Oswald, were you able to find your copy of Exhibit
221, and compare it and see whether that which is marked on is on your
copy?
Mrs. OSWALD. No sir, we have not found that yet.
"Yours 11th" is scratched out.
Mr. RANKIN. So that 221 is correct, but apparently there are some
errors----
Mrs. OSWALD. There are more errors, too. Because it doesn't say
"Services Department of State."
Mr. DOYLE. 221 does not appear to be a photostat of the exhibit.
Mr. RANKIN. But it does have exactly the same material on it, doesn't
it?
Mrs. OSWALD. It doesn't have this--"collect." I would not say it was an
exact copy.
Mr. DOYLE. It appears to have substantially the information on it. It
is not a photostat of it.
Mr. RANKIN. I might advise you, Mrs. Oswald, this is from the State
Department's file, from which the telegram was made up that was sent to
you.
Mr. DOYLE. It is not a photostat, but it does have substantially the
information that is set forth in the telegram itself.
Mr. RANKIN. Now, you have examined all of the exhibits, 206 through
227, both inclusive, and found them, except for what you and your
counsel said about exhibit 221, and the card that was with 227, to be
correct.
Mrs. OSWALD. That is correct.
Mr. RANKIN. We offer in evidence Exhibits 206 through 227, both
inclusive.
The CHAIRMAN. They may be admitted.
(Commission Exhibit Nos. 206 through 227, heretofore marked for
identification, were received in evidence.)
Mrs. OSWALD. This is the card that goes with this letter, as an
explanation.
(The card referred to was marked Exhibit No. 240 for identification.)
Mr. RANKIN. Exhibit 240 is the card you have just referred to that goes
with Exhibit 227, is that right?
Mrs. OSWALD. Yes, sir.
Mr. RANKIN. We offer in evidence Exhibit 240, and ask that a copy be
substituted.
The CHAIRMAN. That may be admitted.
(The card referred to was received in evidence as Commission Exhibit
No. 240.)
Mr. RANKIN. Mrs. Oswald, would you examine exhibits 228 through
236, both inclusive? And tell us whether or not those appear to be
photostatic copies of correspondence about the Albert Schweitzer
College and application?
Mrs. OSWALD. Yes, that is right. That is right. This is correct. That
is right. That is right. That is right. That is right. That is right.
That is right. That is right. That is right. That is right.
Those are all right, sir.
Mr. RANKIN. You have just finished comparing Exhibits 228 through 236
both inclusive, and found them to be correct photostatic copies of your
files concerning the Albert Schweitzer matter?
Mrs. OSWALD. That is right.
Mr. RANKIN. We offer in evidence, Exhibits 228 through 236 both
inclusive.
The CHAIRMAN. They may be admitted.
(The photostatic copies referred to were received in evidence as
Commission Exhibit Nos. 228 through 236, inclusive.)
The CHAIRMAN. Have you introduced all the records you have now?
Mr. RANKIN. Just a few more, Mr. Chairman.
(The document referred to was marked 241 for identification.)
Mr. RANKIN. Mrs. Oswald, I hand you Exhibit 241 and ask you if that is
one of the letters that you referred to in your testimony?
Mrs. OSWALD. That is right.
Mr. RANKIN. And it is one that you received?
Mrs. OSWALD. It is one that I received in a letter from Russia, from
Lee. And you have the letter, telling me to go to the International
Rescue Committee, and to show the papers to the Red Cross in Vernon.
This is the letter inclosed in that letter.
Mr. RANKIN. We offer in evidence Exhibit 241, and ask leave to
substitute a copy.
The CHAIRMAN. It may be admitted.
(The letter referred to was received in evidence as Commission Exhibit
No. 241.)
(Documents marked 242 and 243 for identification.)
Mr. RANKIN. Exhibits 242 and 243 are the telegram and the letter you
received back from your transmission to the White House that you have
testified about this morning, is that right?
Mrs. OSWALD. That is right.
Mr. RANKIN. And you say you would like to have the originals back?
Mrs. OSWALD. Yes, sir.
Mr. RANKIN. We offer in evidence Exhibits 242 and 243 and ask leave to
substitute copies.
The CHAIRMAN. It may be admitted on that condition.
(Commission Exhibits Nos. 242 and 243 were admitted in evidence.)
The CHAIRMAN. Are all the records identified now and admitted, Mr.
Rankin?
Mr. RANKIN. Mr. Chairman, we have one further matter, and that is some
correspondence that involves her son's communications with the Embassy,
which correspondence was examined in the presence of Mr. Mark Lane when
we were taking photostatic copies. And during that examination, Mrs.
Oswald was able to identify the handwriting on part of them, and not
able to identify it on another part. Is that right, Mrs. Oswald?
Mrs. OSWALD. That is right; yes, sir.
Mr. RANKIN. And we think we should probably, to cover that matter, ask
her briefly to point those out.
The CHAIRMAN. Very well. Let's get that done before we adjourn, and
then we will adjourn for lunch.
Mr. RANKIN. Mr. Reporter, I will ask you to mark these exhibits, which
are the ones that I understand Mrs. Oswald was able to identify the
handwriting on.
(Documents were marked Commission Exhibits Nos. 244 through 250 for
identification.)
Mr. RANKIN. Mrs. Oswald, will you examine Exhibits 244 through 250,
both inclusive, and tell us whether or not those are photostatic copies
of communications of your son that you recognize the handwriting on of
the originals?
Mrs. OSWALD. Yes, sir.
Mr. DOYLE. If you do not on any one of them, announce the number.
Mrs. OSWALD. This is one I would believe that I have stated--if he
wrote it, he wrote it very careful. It is not scribbled like he usually
does.
Mr. DOYLE. That is 246.
Mr. RANKIN. Can you tell whether or not that is his signature on the
second page of Exhibit 246?
Mrs. OSWALD. It is just a little different. That could be forged. Just
a little difference. We write left handed, and we have a trend.
Mr. RANKIN. Is that one that you said before that you thought you could
recognize?
Mrs. OSWALD. I don't know, sir. I have no way of knowing. How would I
know?
Mr. RANKIN. Do you recognize the handwriting now?
Mrs. OSWALD. As I have stated before, when I am looking at it, it
doesn't appear to be immediately as Lee's handwriting. But it could
be something that he has recopied over and over to get such a perfect
lettering. It is not scribbled like we usually scribble. Now, this was
one also that I would say----
Mr. RANKIN. That is Exhibit 247.
Mrs. OSWALD. That is scribbled.
Mr. RANKIN. That is more scribbled, you say?
Mrs. OSWALD. It is not quite as his ordinary writing. It is a little
more thoughtfully written.
Mr. RANKIN. You think it is his, though?
Mrs. OSWALD. I would say this is his.
Mr. RANKIN. Yes.
Mrs. OSWALD. Now, this is thoughtfully written, too, yet it is his.
Mr. RANKIN. Exhibit 248.
Mrs. OSWALD. I am looking at this handwriting, because the rest of it
is printed. I do not know too much about Lee's printing.
Mr. RANKIN. Can you tell about the handwriting?
Mrs. OSWALD. The signature looks like Lee's signature.
Mr. RANKIN. Yes.
Mrs. OSWALD. I will state again this looks like Lee's handwriting, but
very thoughtfully written.
Mr. RANKIN. That is Exhibit 249. Is that right?
Mrs. OSWALD. That is right. And this is Lee's signature.
Mr. RANKIN. That is Exhibit 250 that you just referred to?
Mrs. OSWALD. Yes, sir. Now, I would say it is all Lee's handwriting,
but very thoughtfully written.
Mr. RANKIN. Thank you. We offer in evidence Exhibits 244 through 250,
both inclusive.
The CHAIRMAN. They may be admitted.
(The documents referred to were received in evidence as Commission
Exhibits Nos. 244 through 250, inclusive.)
(A group of documents was then marked 251 through 258 for
identification.)
Mr. RANKIN. Mrs. Oswald, I will hand you Exhibits 251 through 257,
both inclusive, and ask you to examine those, and state whether you
recognize the handwriting.
Mrs. OSWALD. That doesn't look too much like Lee's handwriting. It
could be a finer pen and more thoughtfully written. But I cannot
identify this as Lee's handwriting.
Mr. RANKIN. Can you tell about the signature?
Mrs. OSWALD. The signature looks a little like Lee's signature.
Mr. DOYLE. You refer to 251, when you are discussing this?
Mrs. OSWALD. Yes, 251.
Now, this one I would say was not Lee's handwriting.
Mr. RANKIN. That is 252?
Mrs. OSWALD. 252.
I have never known Lee to sign Lee Harvey Oswald. He always signed Lee
H. There again, that could be Lee's handwriting with a fine pen. But
very thoughtfully written. But I will say it is not Lee's. I don't
think it is. I cannot be positive. But I do not think it is Lee's
handwriting.
Mr. RANKIN. That is Exhibit 252 that you have been referring to?
Mrs. OSWALD. Exhibit 252.
Here is another of the same caliber. It is too perfect. The writing is
too perfect.
Mr. RANKIN. What about the signature?
Mrs. OSWALD. The signature looks like Lee's signature.
Mr. DOYLE. That is 253.
Mrs. OSWALD. 253. Yes, sir. This is a little different signature, I
would say, than his normal signature.
Mr. RANKIN. 254?
Mrs. OSWALD. 254, yes, sir.
Mr. RANKIN. You think that Exhibit 254 is your son's handwriting or not?
Mrs. OSWALD. I would have to say with reservations again. It would have
to be rewritten very thoroughly. It is not scribbled enough.
Mr. RANKIN. You think that those letters, 251 through 254, are too
carefully done for your son Lee?
Mrs. OSWALD. Yes, sir. And if he did do them, he would have to have
four or five copies to do it so perfect.
This is a little more scribbled. This signature looks more like Lee's
than the other did.
Mr. RANKIN. That is 255?
Mrs. OSWALD. Yes, sir. 255.
This looks like Lee's handwriting--a lot of misspelling, and his
signature. 256.
Now his Russian handwriting I know only from return addresses. However,
I do have two brown papers with Russian writing on, from gifts that
were sent to me. But I don't know if Lee addressed them or not.
And this is Lee's handwriting with a very fine pen. Isn't this
handwriting backwards for a left hand? It seems when I looked at "my,"
it should be going this way--because I write like Lee, left handed.
Mr. RANKIN. When you refer to this--or asked whether it was backwards,
you were referring to Exhibit 257, were you?
Mrs. OSWALD. Yes. This "m" should be going this way--which it is
really. But it is kind of hard to testify to. I would say this is Lee's
handwriting with a very fine pen, with reservations.
Mr. RANKIN. Exhibit 257.
We offer in evidence Exhibits 251 through 257, both inclusive.
The CHAIRMAN. They may be admitted.
(The documents referred to were received in evidence as Commission
Exhibits Nos. 251 through 257, inclusive.)
The CHAIRMAN. Mrs. Oswald, are you now ready--we are not going to ask
you to do it right now, but we are going to recess at 2 o'clock. But
are we now at the point where we can hear whatever you want to tell us
about your life?
Mrs. OSWALD. I am sorry, but I would like to have lunch.
The CHAIRMAN. I said that we were going to have lunch. But when we
return--you have things up to that point of your story?
Mrs. OSWALD. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. Very well.
You have another question you want to ask before we recess for lunch?
Mr. RANKIN. I should like to offer for the limited purpose, Mr.
Chairman, of the fact that we presented this picture to Mrs. Oswald and
she said it was not the picture that was presented to her--for that
limited purpose I should like to offer Exhibit 237.
The CHAIRMAN. It may be so admitted.
(The picture referred to was received in evidence as Commission Exhibit
No. 237.)
Mr. DOYLE. Mr. Chief Justice, during the noon hour may I have the
custody of this transcript of a tape recording of an interview with
Mrs. Oswald, the 28 pages which was tendered to us by Mr. Rankin this
morning--and I will return it.
Mr. RANKIN. That is for them to have.
The CHAIRMAN. That is to become your own.
Mr. DOYLE. To become the property of Mrs. Oswald.
The CHAIRMAN. The property of Mrs. Oswald, yes. That is what we gave it
to you for. She requested that.
Mr. DOYLE. Thank you very much.
The CHAIRMAN. Very well, we will recess now until 2 o'clock.
(Whereupon, at 12:55 p.m., the President's Commission recessed.)