Mr. JENNER. With whom, sir?
Mr. OSWALD. Marina N. Oswald.
Mr. JENNER. She related this to you?
Mr. OSWALD. Yes.
Mr. JENNER. All right.
Anybody else? What about Mr. Thorne and Mr. Martin? Had you had
conversations with them as to the source of these funds?
Mr. OSWALD. Yes, sir. I would say that would be correct, too.
Mr. JENNER. Did these conversations take place in the presence of Mrs.
Marina Oswald? Your conversations with Mr. Thorne and Mr. Martin?
Mr. OSWALD. Not that I recall, sir. I am thinking perhaps, when I was
aware at first that the $25,000 was to be placed in the trust fund
at the First National Bank of Fort Worth, I learned this through a
conversation on the telephone.
Mr. JENNER. With whom?
Mr. OSWALD. With Mr. Jim Martin.
Mr. JENNER. Are you familiar with Mr. Martin's voice?
Mr. OSWALD. Yes.
Mr. JENNER. Did you call him or did he call you?
Mr. OSWALD. I do not recall, sir.
Mr. JENNER. When did this take place?
Mr. OSWALD. Approximately a week prior to the actual deposit and
setting up of the trust fund at the First National Bank in Fort Worth.
Representative FORD. Mr. Jenner, I suggest we get a copy of the deposit
slip or some other validation of the actual amount.
Mr. JENNER. Thank you, sir. We will undertake to do that. These
documents, as I have indicated, were produced for us during the recess.
We don't have the full information.
Perhaps, Mr. McKenzie--you have been quite helpful. You might be
further helpful to us--you might have the deposit--evidence of the
deposit.
Mr. McKENZIE. Mr. Jenner, I wish I did have it. However, I know that
the First National Bank of Fort Worth would gladly duplicate that for
you. And I contemplate that I will be in the process of obtaining a
copy from either Mr. Thorne or Mr. Martin in the very near future,
because I have asked both of those gentlemen, on behalf of Marina
Oswald and her children, for a full and complete accounting as of
February 18, 1964, and I will likewise say that she has informed me up
until February 18, 1964, she has had no accounting from either of those
gentlemen.
Mr. JENNER. Is there another exhibit?
Mr. McKENZIE. Yes, sir.
The next exhibit, Mr. Jenner, is Commission Exhibit No. 279, which is
a Xerox copy of a power of attorney granted to the firm of Thorne and
Leach, attorneys and counselors at law, bearing the date of December
5, 1963, in which it has three--I presume these are omissions from the
exhibit--commencing on line 4, following the words "trust funds", there
is an omission, and then the word "bequests", and then there is another
omission, and on line 5, at the beginning of that line, there is an
omission.
Mr. DULLES. What is the nature of the omissions?
Mr. McKENZIE. Mr. Dulles, I have been told that the word "gifts" was
omitted. The word "gift" was originally in it. But I have been told the
word "gift" was omitted, or struck out.
Mr. JENNER. Mr. Dulles, I had intended to question the witness about
that.
Mr. McKENZIE. This contract provides that Marina N. Oswald, "bargain,
transfer, sell and assign an undivided 10 percent of all such sums
when collected or paid to my account," referring to the fund in the
preceding paragraph. The agreement is signed by Marina N. Oswald,
witnessed by James H. Martin, and accepted by John M. Thorne.
I am familiar with Marina N. Oswald's signature, and this is a copy of
her signature, or is her signature. I am not familiar with Mr. Martin's
signature or Mr. Thorne's signature.
Mr. JENNER. Directing your attention to that document, Mr. Oswald, are
you familiar with any of the signatures it bears?
Mr. OSWALD. Yes, sir; I am.
Mr. JENNER. Would you identify each signature and indicate those with
which you are familiar?
Mr. OSWALD. As they appear in order, the first signature is Mrs. Marina
N. Oswald. I am familiar with this signature.
The second signature is Mr. James H. Martin. I am familiar with his
signature.
Mr. JENNER. It is his signature?
Mr. OSWALD. I would say yes, it is.
Mr. JENNER. All right.
Mr. DULLES. Is that under "Accepted"--is that first word there "John"?
Mr. OSWALD. Yes, sir. And the last signature as appears on this Exhibit
279 is the signature of John M. Thorne.
Mr. JENNER. Do you know the day upon which that document was executed?
It bears a date of December 5, which is a Thursday.
Mr. OSWALD. No, sir; I do not.
Pardon me--the 5th day of December is the date purported--that this
document was executed at. I am not familiar that it was executed on
that date.
Mr. JENNER. Are you familiar with the date when it was in fact executed?
Mr. OSWALD. No, sir; I am not. I might further state I was not present
when this document was signed, and I was not aware of this document
until Thursday, February 13th.