He said, "Yes, Mrs. Oswald, your son has just expired."

Mr. RANKIN. Now, which agent told you this?

Mrs. OSWALD. This is the agent that was also now sent to me to protect

me in Fort Worth, Tex.--Mr. Mike Howard, who was the agent that rode

in the car with President Johnson, who was the agent that was at Six

Flags, that was in charge, who was the agent that was assigned to

protect Baine Johnson at the dormitory. He is also the same agent that

was sent to protect me in Fort Worth, Tex.

Mr. RANKIN. Now, who was the other agent that was with you that day?

Was there another Secret Service agent with you?

Mrs. OSWALD. He went into the home--he escorted Marina into the chief

of police's home, and I do not know his name. And he is not the other

agent that I want to know the name of.

Wait just a minute.

I don't know this man's name. But he is not the other agent that is

involved.

Mr. RANKIN. Now, about what time on that Sunday did you learn of your

son's death?

Mrs. OSWALD. Well, now, here is your time element. I said Robert and

Mr. Gregory and the Secret Service were there approximately from 11:30.

And I knew nothing about the shooting. And then we had to go to Irving

and everything. Then they told us Lee was shot. So now we are bringing

up to the time--it all fits in--which was 1 o'clock or 1:30.

As a matter of fact, then when I got the news, I went into the home,

and I said, "Marina, our boy is gone."

We both cried. And they were all watching the sequence on television.

The television was turned to the back, where Marina and I could not see

it. They sat us on the sofa, and his wife gave us coffee. And the back

of the television was to us. And the men and all, a lot of men were

looking at the television. It probably just happened, because the man

said, "Do not repeat." And I insisted.

They gave us coffee.

And then it later came out in the paper that--a story about the chief

of police, how it was set up for the women, that we should not know.

We were to go to his house. There was a story about that from this

chief of police of Irving.

Mr. RANKIN. What paper is that?

Mrs. OSWALD. The Star Telegram paper.

All of my papers were taken out of my home by Secret Service men. While

at Six Flags, they saved the papers for me. We would not let the maids

take the papers. And I brought all of those papers from the Six Flags,

from the very beginning, to my home in Fort Worth, Tex. And every piece

of paper out of my home was taken. So I did not--believe me, gentlemen,

this seems strange, but it was 2 weeks later before I saw the picture

of the way my son was shot.

Mr. Blair Justice of the Star Telegram gave me the back issues of

papers. And it wasn't until then that I actually knew the tragedy, how

my son was shot. Because they took all the papers, all my clippings

and everything. I was left stranded, without any papers. And until Mr.

Blair Justice brought me these back issues, some 2 weeks later, was

the first time that I saw exactly the tragic way my son was shot.

Mr. RANKIN. Was there any discussion between you and Marina about this?

Mrs. OSWALD. About the shooting?

Mr. RANKIN. Yes.

Mrs. OSWALD. No. We didn't know. I was with Marina at the Executive Inn

from the 22d until the shooting, the 24th--as I told you.

Then we left. And from the 24th to the 28th, at the Inn of the Six

Flags, the agents and my son kept this from us. We did not know. We

knew Lee was shot and dead. But we didn't know how. We didn't get

to read a paper or watch television. We just had snatches of the

television.

Mr. RANKIN. Well, when you both learned that he was shot on that Sunday

afternoon, did you and Marina say anything to each other?

Mrs. OSWALD. Oh, yes. That is another story.

Immediately I said, "I want to see Lee." And Marina said, "I want see

Lee, too."

And the chief of police and Mr. Gregory said, "Well, it would be better

to wait until he was at the funeral home and fixed up."

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