I did ask him if he would go over there to speak to him, and kind of
tone it down--if they were going to get anything out of her, they would
not get it that way.
And he said he would speak to her.
Approximately, at this time, the telephone rang, and he had to speak on
the telephone.
I returned to my chair at the table where we were still opening mail,
and again for the second time, the same implication was brought out.
Mr. JENNER. By the FBI agents?
Mr. OSWALD. Yes, sir.
Mr. JENNER. To Marina?
Mr. OSWALD. Yes, sir.
Mr. JENNER. In your presence?
Mr. OSWALD. Yes, sir.
Mr. JENNER. They spoke English?
Mr. OSWALD. Yes, sir.
Mr. JENNER. Was the interpreter whom you named--was he participating?
Mr. OSWALD. Yes, sir. It was from the FBI agent, the other gentleman,
not named Brown, to Mr. Gopadze, to Mrs. Oswald, from Mrs. Oswald back
to Mr. Gopadze to the other gentleman.
Mr. JENNER. Proceed.
Mr. OSWALD. On the second occurrence of this implication, of the same
implication, I arose again, and Mr. Howard was walking across the room,
and I stopped him, and I told him for the second time, or requested for
the second time that he please say something to them about that.
Mr. JENNER. Did you speak loudly enough to be overheard?
Mr. OSWALD. No, sir. I just asked Mr. Howard to please inform the FBI
that she had, to the contrary, been very cooperative from the time she
had been out there, up until their arrival. And, again, I referred
to Mr. Howard the reference there of perhaps the friction, or the
condition that I assumed, that they did not want the FBI aware of the
tape recording at this time.
And his reply to me, he said, "Robert, do what you want to do. You
certainly absolutely are free to say anything you want to say."
Mr. JENNER. And did you?
Mr. OSWALD. I certainly did, sir.
Mr. JENNER. What did you say? You went over to the agent?
Mr. OSWALD. Yes, sir; I went over to Mr. Brown, the agent I knew,
who was sitting at the end of the coffee table--it was a large round
coffee table. And I sat there, and I spoke to him without saying so
much about--anything about the tape recording. I did say to him--and I
was shaking my finger at him, sir, I might say that--that I resented
the implications that they were passing on to Marina, because of her
apparent uncooperative attitude.
Mr. JENNER. Supposed, you mean?
Mr. OSWALD. Yes, sir.
And that I knew for a fact that she had been very cooperative and
highly cooperative.
And I returned to my chair at the table.
They attempted for another 5 or 10 minutes to interview Marina Oswald
at that time, at which time Mr. Brown--he left the immediate area of
interviewing there, and came over and started speaking to me.
I do not recall what our conversation was. I think perhaps it was on
what had transpired out there prior to their arrival.