Mr. DULLES. Is that all you had on this particular point?
Representative BOGGS. Yes.
Mr. MARTIN. I don't remember what brought it up even. She didn't like
the FBI. She said that. And she didn't like to answer questions.
Mr. REDLICH. Did she tell you why?
Mr. MARTIN. No. She just didn't like them. Boguslav in particular.
Mr. DULLES. But her remark was made before her hearing before this
Commission?
Mr. MARTIN. Yes.
Mr. DULLES. And did not relate then to that hearing.
Mr. MARTIN. No.
Mr. REDLICH. Did she indicate to you she had revealed everything that
there was to reveal before this Commission?
Mr. MARTIN. Yes. There again I didn't question her about anything that
she said in the Commission. I didn't feel it was any of my business for
one thing, and all I asked her is how it went, and she would say fine,
and that would be the end of it. That is the limit of my questioning
her as far as testimony within the Commission was concerned.
Mr. REDLICH. Will you tell us how you found out about the General
Walker incident?
Mr. MARTIN. Read it from the newspapers.
Mr. REDLICH. When you read about it did you talk to Mrs. Oswald about
it?
Mr. MARTIN. Yes.
Mr. REDLICH. Could you tell us the nature of the conversation?
Mr. MARTIN. Well, I asked her if it was true, and she said yes, and I
also asked her who was with Oswald, and she said no one. He did things
alone. And, let's see, she related the story as to the note he had
written. He had left earlier in the evening, and he hadn't come home
at the, we'll say, at an early hour, and she was getting quite upset
with him, and she found this note on a bed table or somewhere in the
bedroom, and read it, and it simply said that he might be gone for a
time or he might be in jail, and instructions as to what to do in case
he was gone.
Mr. REDLICH. Did Marina tell you all about this?
Mr. MARTIN. Yes.
Mr. REDLICH. In English?
Mr. MARTIN. Yes.
Mr. REDLICH. She knew English well enough to be able to relate this
type of story?
Mr. MARTIN. She learned very rapidly.
Mr. REDLICH. Do you recall approximately when that was?
Mr. MARTIN. No. It was the same day it came out in the paper.
Representative FORD. Did she know of her own knowledge about General
Walker? Did she indicate any background information about General
Walker?
Mr. MARTIN. No.
Representative FORD. She only told what Lee told her about it?
Mr. MARTIN. Lee told her he was a Fascist.
Mr. DULLES. Did she recount to you, that is, did Marina account to
you, what she said to Lee Harvey after this incident, after the Walker
incident, after he told her about the Walker incident?
Mr. MARTIN. Yes, she said that she hid the note that he left in a
cookbook and told him if he ever did anything like that again that she
would turn that note over to the police and turn him over to the police
also.
Mr. REDLICH. Mr. Martin, were you aware that Marina Oswald had
given this information voluntarily to the Secret Service or the FBI
concerning the Walker incident?
Mr. MARTIN. No.
Mr. REDLICH. Did you ever ask her about it?
Mr. MARTIN. Well, it was in the newspapers so I assumed they knew about
it.
Mr. REDLICH. And you assumed she had volunteered this information?
Mr. MARTIN. Well, of course now, I was a little concerned to begin with
as to how it got out.
Mr. REDLICH. Why were you concerned?
Mr. MARTIN. Well, if she had told it to the FRI and the FBI only then
how did it get in the newspapers?
Mr. REDLICH. What was the--you say you were concerned that certain
aspects of her story were being released. What was the nature of your
concern?
Mr. MARTIN. Well, I was just wondering how that information got to the
newspapers?
Mr. REDLICH. Did you ask her?
Mr. MARTIN. No, I didn't ask her because she didn't see any newspaper
reporters at all.
Mr. REDLICH. Did you ask any of the agents of the FBI or the Secret
Service?
Mr. MARTIN. Yes, Mr. Heitman.
Mr. REDLICH. What did Mr. Heitman tell you?
Mr. MARTIN. He said it didn't come from the Dallas office. He said it
must have come from Washington. The Houston Chronicle brought it out.
Mr. REDLICH. By Washington he meant the Washington office?
Mr. MARTIN. Of the FBI, the Justice Department.
Mr. REDLICH. FBI. That was his opinion as to where this information
could come from?
Mr. MARTIN. Yes.
Mr. REDLICH. Did you ever ask Mrs. Oswald why she had not revealed this
information prior to that time?
Mr. MARTIN. No. I tried to stay as far away from this investigation as
possible, because I didn't want to get into it at all to be real frank
about it. I figured there are people better equipped than I to ferret
out information and they have methods of doing it that I have no idea
about.
Mr. REDLICH. At that time, however, you were acting as her business
representative.
Mr. MARTIN. Yes. Because I had to refute something in the paper.
Mr. REDLICH. Were you assisting her at that time in the preparation of
any narratives that she was preparing in connection with her story?
Mr. MARTIN. No. She has never written anything other than the
manuscript that she wrote for the Commission. And we have never
pre-prepared anything.
Mr. DULLES. Has she had conversations with others, to your knowledge,
who have been writing material, Isaac Don Levine, for example?
Mr. MARTIN. The only one would be Levine.
Mr. DULLES. The only one would be Isaac Don Levine?
Mr. MARTIN. Levine told me she told him that her husband was a
Trotskyite. Now what that means, I don't know but he seemed to think
quite a bit.
Mr. DULLES. Marina told Isaac Don Levine?
Mr. MARTIN. Yes.
Mr. DULLES. That Marina's husband?
Mr. MARTIN. Lee Oswald was a Trotskyite.
Mr. DULLES. He was a Trotskyite.
Mr. REDLICH. Mr. Martin, in what way do you consider yourself a patsy?