Mr. REDLICH. Could I interrupt and get this identified?
Mr. MARTIN. Certainly.
Mr. REDLICH. With your permission, we would like to introduce this into
evidence and take, a photostatic copy and leave you with the original.
Mr. MARTIN. Certainly.
Mr. DULLES. Would you describe this?
Mr. REDLICH. This document lists various publications, media of
communication, and indicating the amounts which have been the subject
of negotiation, and the contracts, if any, which have been signed with
these various media of publication concerning Marina Oswald's story.
Mr. DULLES. Mr. Martin has said this is written in his own hand, is
that correct, Mr. Martin?
Mr. MARTIN. Yes, sir.
Representative BOGGS. Mr. Chairman, I have to go to a meeting at the
Speaker's office momentarily, I would just like to ask one further
question of this witness.
Now, I understand about the business negotiations here and so forth,
but I want you to be specific--anything that comes to your mind as to
whether or not this woman, anything more than what I asked you about.
Mr. LEECH. Can you give us about two minutes in that room?
(Discussion off the record.)
Mr. REDLICH. Back on the record.
Mr. DULLES. Just one minute. This should go in the record.
Representative BOGGS. Who is this individual?
Mr. MARTIN. I have been trying to remember his name. I can find out his
name. It began with an "H".
Mr. DULLES. Would you repeat the story, please, and then we will
continue with the examination.
Mr. MARTIN. I met a gentleman who is an executive with the Dinkler
Hotel chain, and he related the story to me that was told to him by
one of their engineers, a maintenance man in the Atlanta, in their
Atlanta hotel. The maintenance man's wife was an, or is a long distance
telephone operator, and on the night preceding the assassination there
was an individual that called, well, the way I heard the story, that
she said he sounded like he had been drinking, and that he mentioned
to her to remember this telephone call because it would go down in
history. He made a credit card call to Lee Harvey Oswald, and simply
said, "Proceed as planned."
Then he made another telephone call to Jack Ruby and told him that if
anything went wrong he knew what to do.
Now, I questioned this, I guess there are numerous rumors of this type
or whatever it is, and he said no, that it was definitely the truth,
and the reason she hadn't come out before with it was that it is a
violation of Federal law to listen to a long distance telephone call,
and that they finally did report it to the FBI.
Mr. REDLICH. The person you were speaking to, as I understand this
story, received the information from a maintenance man whose wife was
the telephone operator who overheard the conversation?
Mr. MARTIN. Yes.
Representative BOGGS. Was this a telephone operator in a Dinkler hotel?
Mr. MARTIN. I didn't get that whether it was in a Dinkler hotel or
whether she was in the long distance or toll offices in Atlanta.
Representative BOGGS. Did this person have the credit card number and
so forth?
Mr. MARTIN. No. The person that I was talking to?
Representative BOGGS. Did the telephone operator have it?
Mr. MARTIN. The telephone operator did, or the telephone company has
the records.
Representative BOGGS. Do you have any other information that would
indicate that----
Mr. MARTIN. No, I know this doesn't indicate anything about Marina as
far as--no, it is just a strange feeling as far as Marina is concerned.
She is too cold.
Mr. REDLICH. When did you hear about this story, Mr. Martin?
Mr. MARTIN. About a week ago.
Mr. REDLICH. You haven't discussed it at all with Marina in that week?
Mr. MARTIN. No.
Mr. REDLICH. I would like to question you again on Congressman Boggs
point. You have said she is too cold, you have said you thought that
all this was preplanned. Is there anything specific in anything that
she told you or in any of her actions which would lead you to believe
that she has withheld certain information from you, or this Commission,
concerning her knowledge about the assassination?
Mr. MARTIN. No, except she made a remark to me one time that she didn't
volunteer anything. She only answered questions.
Representative FORD. This was after the return from the Commission
hearing?