Mr. RANKIN. '61----

Mr. DULLES. It is all '61?

Mr. RANKIN. You are correct--October 22, 1959, is the date on the

letter.

Mrs. OSWALD. That is incorrect.

Mr. RANKIN. And on the envelope it is October 30, 1961, Vernon, Tex.

Mrs. Oswald, can you explain that?

Mrs. OSWALD. Yes. Evidently Lee put the date incorrect--because I had

no contact with Lee from the time--I had one contact with Lee from the

time that he defected to Russia. And the only contact was when he was

at the Metropole Hotel in Moscow. Then the next contact was when the

State Department wrote me his address, which was July, or June 1961. So

where Lee put the 1959, I would say it was just an error, because the

postmark proves the date.

As I have been saying FBI instead of Secret Service--I mean it is

just----

Mr. RANKIN. A slip of some kind?

Mrs. OSWALD. Yes.

Mr. DULLES. Is the 1959 letter available, the Metropole Hotel letter?

Mrs. OSWALD. When we go into the defection, I have letters from 1959

that I myself have sent to Lee and have been returned, and, gentlemen,

they are unopened, and I will give you the privilege of opening my

thoughts to my son. They were returned unopened, because he was not

located.

Mr. RANKIN. I might answer your question, Mr. Dulles. We have a copy of

the Metropole letter of 1959.

Mr. DOYLE. Mr. Rankin, could I check--your Exhibit 182, the one you

called just before this--I gathered that you gave a date of the letter

and also a date of the postmark. Am I correct--October 2, 1961, is the

date of the letter, and October 10, 1961, is the postmark.

Mr. RANKIN. That's correct.

Mr. DOYLE. Thank you, sir.

Mr. RANKIN. Now, with regard to Exhibit 183, which bears the date

October 22, 1959, in error, with October 30, 1961, as the postmark

on the envelope, I wish to call the Commission's attention to this

reference.

"Marina's maiden name was Prusakova. Her aunt and uncle's address

in Minsk is"--and then the address is set out in Russian. And then

continuing the same sentence--"they don't speak any English. However,

her uncle is an Army colonel soon to retire."

Mrs. OSWALD. And that I would think would be the letter that the

Secret Service--was one of the letters that the Secret Service, as I

previously stated, had.

Now, may I say something here?

Marina uses two names--Prusakova and Nikolaevna. Whether she was

married before, or whether she uses two maiden names, I do not know.

But I have a record of both names.

Mr. RANKIN. I offer in evidence Exhibit 183.

Representative FORD. Mr. Rankin, don't we have a record of those two

names? Isn't one her maiden name and the other by her mother--and the

other by her stepfather?

Mr. RANKIN. That is the record we have. That is what Mrs. Marina Oswald

testified to. She testified in regard to Nikolaevna. And the other name

appears on her papers as the father.

Mrs. OSWALD. But now Lee has said in one of those letters that her

name is Nikolaevna. But then when he asked me in one of the letters

to get an affidavit of support that Marina could come to the United

States, that name appeared--Nikolaevna. Yet there are a couple of

letters where he refers to her name as Prusakova. And I have it in his

handwriting--when he gave me the slip of paper for the baptism he used

Prusakova--Marina Prusakova Oswald. He did not use the name in the

letters. That is what I find peculiar.

Mr. RANKIN. The explanation was that the Prusakova was the

identification of the father, which is often done. And she explained

that with regard to the child they did not want to name June Lee Oswald

with your son's name, if you recall--that is your son did not want

that. But the Russian Government insisted that the father's name had to

be shown.

Mrs. OSWALD. Yes, I am familiar with that. I have done research on

that. In Russia the father's name is used even if it is a girl. Now,

Mr. Peter Gregory--his name is Peter Gregory, and his father's name is

Peter, so his name is Peter Peter Gregory. They always use the father's

name as a second name, regardless of sex. So June is named June Lee

Oswald, which is Lee's name. And if there were two Lees it would be Lee

Lee Oswald. That I know of.

Mr. RANKIN. Exhibit 184 is dated November 8, 1961, and bears a postmark

on the envelope November 18, 1961. I offer it in evidence.

Exhibit 185 is dated November 23d, without any year on the letter

itself, with the postmark December 4, 1961, as the American postmark on

the envelope. I offer Exhibit 185.

Exhibit 186 is Christmas greetings and bears the date December 12,

1961, stamped on the envelope. I offer Exhibit 186.

Exhibit 187 bears the date December 13, 1961, on the letter, and bears

the postmark date December 26, 1961, on the envelope. I offer Exhibit

187.

Exhibit 188 bears the date December 20th, without any year on the

letter, and the date January 2, 1962, stamped on the envelope. I offer

Exhibit 188.

Exhibit 189 bears the date January 2d, and the stamped postmark on the

envelope January 11, 1962. I offer Exhibit 189.

Exhibit 190 bears the date January 23d, on the envelope, January 22,

1961, written on the back of the envelope. I offer in evidence Exhibit

190.

Exhibit 191 bears the date January 20th, and stamped on the envelope is

January 29, 1962. I offer Exhibit 191.

Mr. DULLES. These are all airmail letters?

Mrs. OSWALD. They are all registered return receipt mailed. Everything

I had to sign for.

Mr. DULLES. Nine or 10 days apparently, it took.

Representative BOGGS. That is right--about 10 days, each one of them.

Mr. RANKIN. Apparently--it states "Par Avion". But this one bears

a mark February 1, 1962, on Exhibit 192, and the letter itself is

February 1, 1962. That is pretty fast.

Mr. DULLES. It must be 11. Isn't there a 1 left out on the other side?

Mr. RANKIN. Well, it is in handwriting. So that would be pretty fast

mail. I offer Exhibit 192.

Exhibit 193, dated February 9, 1962, on the letter, and it is stamped

on the envelope as February 23, 1962. I offer Exhibit 193.

Exhibit 194 is dated February 15, 1962, on the letter, and stamped on

the envelope March 1, 1962. I offer Exhibit 194.

Exhibit 195 is dated February 24th, without a year date, and the

envelope is stamped March 7, 1962. I offer Exhibit 195.

Exhibit 196 is dated March 28th, stamped on the envelope is April 9,

1962. I offer Exhibit 196.

Exhibit 197 is dated April 22d, without a year date on the letter, and

stamped on the envelope is April 28, 1962. I offer Exhibit 197.

Exhibit 198 is dated May 30, 1962, on the letter, and is stamped on

the envelope June 6, 19--it doesn't show clearly what the year is, but

there is a 196, and I take it is 1962. I offer Exhibit 198.

The CHAIRMAN. All of the documents that have just been offered in

evidence may be admitted and take the numbers assigned to them.

(The documents heretofore marked Commission Exhibits Nos. 180 through

198 for identification, were received in evidence.)

Mrs. OSWALD. I don't believe this letter belongs with the letters. May

I see it, please? Is that a letter from Russia? I don't think so, from

what I can see from here.

Mr. RANKIN. It purports to be, Mrs. Oswald. I hand it to you. It is

Exhibit 198 you are speaking of?

Mrs. OSWALD. Yes. I'm sorry. There was another very important letter

of this size that I thought maybe became confused with the Russian

letters. You will have to forgive me, Chief Justice Warren, but this is

quite a big undertaking.

The CHAIRMAN. Yes. I just wanted to keep the record straight. It is all

right.

Mr. RANKIN. I ask leave, Mr. Chairman, to substitute copies in each

instance.

The CHAIRMAN. That may be done.

Mr. RANKIN. Now, Mrs. Oswald, will you proceed with telling us how you

determined or concluded that there was a conspiracy between the Secret

Service people that you described and Marina Oswald?

Mrs. OSWALD. Well, when I stopped--I have to remember where I stopped.

Now, am I still at the Six Flags?

Mr. RANKIN. The last I recall you were still there. You had also

described, if you remember, the offer of Mrs. Pultz to take your

daughter-in-law and provide her a home. You have said that you had not

seen your daughter for quite some time, and you tried to communicate

with her.

Mrs. OSWALD. Oh, yes--I was trying to communicate with her.

Mr. RANKIN. And you talked to Mr. Thorne?

Mrs. OSWALD. Yes--that was where my mail had been opened. And Mr. Mark

Lane has my mail and the photostatic copies of the mail.

Mr. RANKIN. I think the Commission would be very much interested in how

you conclude that there was a conspiracy--if you can help on that.

Mrs. OSWALD. Yes, I can help you. But I have many, many stories. I have

to start from the defection. I have a story of Lee's life at age 16

that maybe you know about, maybe you don't. And I have many stories,

gentlemen. I cannot do all these stories in these 6 hours I have been

here today. I have covered quite a bit. I have many stories.

Representative BOGGS. Why did your son defect to Russia?

Mrs. OSWALD. I cannot answer that yes or no, sir. I am going to go

through the whole story, or it is no good. And that is what I have been

doing for this Commission all day long--giving a story.

Representative BOGGS. Suppose you just make it very brief.

Mrs. OSWALD. I cannot make it brief. I will say I am unable to make it

brief. This is my life and my son's life going down in history. And I

want the opportunity to tell the story with documents, as I have been

doing. I am not going to answer yes or no, because it is no good.

Representative BOGGS. Well, you use the expression "defector." I did

not use that expression.

Mrs. OSWALD. I said "so-called defector." The papers have "defector"

and blown it up.

The CHAIRMAN. Well, Mrs. Oswald, you have told us, though, that you

believed that Mrs. Marina Oswald and Mrs. Paine and two Secret Service

agents were in a conspiracy that resulted in the assassination of the

President.

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