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共 333 题- BEFORE
- VOLUME VI
- O F F I C I A L T E X T
- I N T H E
- ENGLISH LANGUAGE
- P R O C E E D I N G S
- 22 January 1946 — 4 February 1946
- CONTENTS
- I pass to the end of this quotation:
- I shall skip to the bottom of Page 1 of the German document.
- M. DELPECH: The quotation is on Page 84, bis.
- I have finished with the levies on industrial material.
- 2. Transport and Communications.
- 3. Labor.
- I have concluded the presentation on Belgium.
- M. DELPECH: I thank you, Your Honor, for your kindness.
- M. GERTHOFFER: I shall read a passage of the document to the Tribunal.
- I. German seizure of means of payment.
- M. GERTHOFFER: I shall limit myself to this.
- 1. Levies of agricultural produce.
- M. de Boisanger, the French Delegate, replied:
- I now come to the Section 8, concerning
- MAJOR BARRINGTON: My Lord, there should
- I just remind the Tribunal of these Points 1 and 2:
- I skip a paragraph.
- M. DUBOST: Exactly.
- M. DUBOST: Very well, Your Honor.
- M. DUBOST: Yes, Your Honor.
- M. DUBOST: No, I have nothing to add.
- M. DUBOST: I understand.
- M. DUBOST: In the month of September or October.
- I skip a paragraph.
- I will further quote the testimony of M. Guérin:
- I pass over the rest.
- M. DUBOST: Perhaps ten minutes, Your Honor.
- M. DUBOST: Yes.
- M. MAURICE LAMPE (Witness): Lampe, Maurice.
- LAMPE: L-A-M-P-E.
- M. DUBOST: You were interned in Mauthausen?
- M. DUBOST: Say what you know.
- M. DUBOST: You witnessed this personally?
- M. DUBOST: Who were these men who were condemned?
- M. DUBOST: I beg your pardon, but were there officers among them?
- M. DUBOST: Did you know where they came from?
- M. DUBOST: How did you know they were officers?
- M. DUBOST: Did all of them come from prisoner-of-war camps?
- M. DUBOST: You did not really know?
- M. DUBOST: A frequent occurrence?
- M. DUBOST: Could you cite a few?
- M. DUBOST: You saw that yourself?
- M. DUBOST: In what part of the camp were you at that time?
- M. DUBOST: You did not know them?
- M. DUBOST: But you did know they were eminent personalities?
- M. DUBOST: Do you know why this execution was carried out?
- M. DUBOST: Yes.
- M. DUBOST: So you are giving us indirect testimony?
- M. DUBOST: How many Frenchmen were you at Mauthausen?
- M. DUBOST: How many of you came back?
- M. DUBOST: There were some Spaniards with you also?
- M. DUBOST: Where did these Spaniards come from?
- M. DUBOST: Is this all you have to tell us?
- M. DUBOST: What happened in that camp after the murder of Heydrich?
- M. DUBOST: Did anyone speak to you of scientific experiments?
- M. DUBOST: Thank you very much.
- THE PRESIDENT: F-274?
- M. DUBOST: Breendonck, B-r-e-e-n-d-o-n-c-k.
- M. DUBOST: Is your name Madame Vaillant-Couturier?
- M. DUBOST: You are the widow of M. Vaillant-Couturier?
- M. DUBOST: You were born in Paris on 3 November 1912?
- M. DUBOST: You are a deputy in the Constituent Assembly?
- M. DUBOST: You are a Knight of the Legion of Honor?
- M. DUBOST: You were then taken to prison?
- M. DUBOST: When did you leave for Auschwitz?
- M. DUBOST: Were you with a convoy?
- M. DUBOST: What was their social position?
- M. DUBOST: How many of you came back out of 230?
- M. DUBOST: Excuse me, can you describe the roll call?
- M. DUBOST: In what year was that?
- M. DUBOST: In the morning at 3:30?
- M. DUBOST: They were gassed then?
- M. DUBOST: Can you talk about the Revier?
- M. DUBOST: Would you please explain what the Revier was in the camp?
- M. DUBOST: That is to say, to the gas chamber?
- M. DUBOST: How many people died at that time?
- M. DUBOST: Was the Revier open to all the internees?
- M. DUBOST: How were you fed?
- M. DUBOST: Regardless of the work that was exacted from the internees?
- M. DUBOST: What was this “Union” factory?
- M. DUBOST: Was it the only factory?
- M. DUBOST: Will you tell us about experiments, if you witnessed any?
- M. DUBOST: Did they come back from those kommandos?
- M. DUBOST: What was the aim of the SS?
- M. DUBOST: In the Revier did you see any pregnant women?
- M. DUBOST: Why did you say that an order came from Berlin?
- M. DUBOST: Is it she who told you that?
- M. DUBOST: Who meted out punishments?
- M. DUBOST: What was the nature of the punishments?
- M. DUBOST: How did the SS behave towards the women? And the women SS?
- M. DUBOST: Why did they go during disinfection?
- M. DUBOST: These were not given an identification number?
- M. DUBOST: They were not tattooed?
- M. DUBOST: You were tattooed?
- M. DUBOST: In Paris?
- M. DUBOST: Will you tell us about the Gypsy camps?
- M. DUBOST: When was that?
- M. DUBOST: Where were you sent then, Madame?
- M. DUBOST: Were these internees tattooed on their arrival?
- M. DUBOST: Are you now speaking about the prisons in the camp?
- M. DUBOST: How many French were there in that camp?
- M. DUBOST: How many women all told?
- M. DUBOST: The system of detention was the same as at Auschwitz?
- M. DUBOST: Who were the guards in these camps?
- M. DUBOST: Was it the camp workshop?
- M. DUBOST: Was this a frequent occurrence?
- M. DUBOST: Did you personally witness these facts?
- M. DUBOST: If you wish it.
- M. DUBOST: I shall not fail to do so.
- M. DUBOST: Have you anything further to relate?
- M. Dubost, have you any questions you wish to ask on reexamination?
- M. DUBOST: I have no further questions to ask.
- M. DUBOST: Yes, Your Honor.
- M. DUBOST: Is the Tribunal willing to hear this witness?
- M. JEAN-FRÉDÉRIC VEITH (Witness): Jean-Frédéric Veith.
- M. DUBOST: Will you please spell your name and surname?
- M. DUBOST: You are of French nationality?
- M. DUBOST: In which camp were you interned?
- M. DUBOST: Who controlled the factories working for the Luftwaffe?
- M. DUBOST: Who controlled this work, supervisors or engineers?
- M. DUBOST: Did these engineers belong to the Luftwaffe?
- M. DUBOST: Who told you that Kaltenbrunner had come?
- M. DUBOST: Did you see prisoners of war arrive at Mauthausen Camp?
- M. DUBOST: They were prisoners of war?
- M. DUBOST: Of what nationality?
- M. DUBOST: They were brought to your camp to be killed there?
- M. DUBOST: What do you know about Action K and how do you know it?
- M. DUBOST: You definitely state that these were prisoners of war?
- M. DUBOST: Do you have the names?
- M. DUBOST: How did you know their names?
- M. DUBOST: Did you communicate this list to an official authority?
- M. Dubost, do you wish to address the Tribunal?
- M. DUBOST: Your Honor, I have no more questions to ask.
- M. DUBOST: Your name is Victor Dupont?
- M. DUBOST: You were born on 12 December 1909?
- M. DUBOST: At Charmes in the Vosges?
- M. DUBOST: You are of French nationality, born of French parents?
- M. DUBOST: You have won honorable distinctions. What are they?
- M. DUBOST: Were you deported to Buchenwald?
- M. DUBOST: You stayed there?
- M. DUBOST: Until 20 May 1945?
- M. DUBOST: Are you sure of that?
- M. DUBOST: Are you testifying as an eyewitness?
- M. DUBOST: Go on, please.
- M. DUBOST: What about those who were left?
- M. DUBOST: To what branch of the service did he belong?
- M. DUBOST: Was he an SS man?
- M. DUBOST: He was acting on orders, you say?
- M. DUBOST: For what purposes were the prisoners used?
- M. DUBOST: Was he a doctor?
- M. DUBOST: You mean leakage of military information?
- M. DUBOST: Will you answer it later?
- M. DUBOST: This was done on orders from higher quarters?
- M. DUBOST: On their own initiative?
- M. DUBOST: What was the effect of this kind of life?
- M. DUBOST: On the human organism.
- I saw M. De Tessan die . . .
- M. DUBOST: Will you explain to the Tribunal who M. De Tessan was?
- M. DUBOST: In Paris?
- M. DUBOST: What about Count de Lipkowski and M. De Tessan?
- M. DUBOST: You may proceed.
- M. DUBOST: Catholic?
- M. DUBOST: What were the functions of Pohl?
- M. DUBOST: The Army?
- M. DUBOST: Whom does it concern?
- M. DUBOST: In the Army?
- M. DUBOST: Did you personally see that?
- M. DUBOST: Have you nothing to add?
- M. DUBOST: What was the nationality of this doctor?
- M. DUBOST: Thank you.
- M. FRANÇOIS BOIX (Witness): François Boix.
- M. Dubost, will you spell the name.
- M. DUBOST: How did you obtain these pictures?
- M. DUBOST: Where is the stairway?
- M. DUBOST: How many steps were there?
- M. DUBOST: We can proceed to the next picture.
- M. DUBOST: We can proceed to the next picture.
- M. DUBOST: By whom was this picture taken?
- M. DUBOST: We may proceed to the next one.
- M. DUBOST: The next one.
- M. DUBOST: Next one. Who took these pictures?
- M. DUBOST: By whom were these pictures taken?
- M. DUBOST: Next one.
- M. DUBOST: What was it in reality?
- M. DUBOST: Was it suicide?
- M. DUBOST: What is this picture?
- M. DUBOST: Who took that picture?
- M. DUBOST: And what is this picture?
- M. DUBOST: What are they doing?
- M. DUBOST: Did you know any of the policemen who came?
- M. DUBOST: Pass the next photo.
- M. DUBOST: Who is that?
- M. DUBOST: This picture was taken in the quarry? By whom?
- M. DUBOST: And that this picture was taken in the camp?
- M. DUBOST: You had fought as a volunteer in the French Army?
- M. DUBOST: How many of you arrived there?
- M. DUBOST: How many of you were liberated?
- M. DUBOST: I have no more questions to ask.
- M. DUBOST: Yes, Mr. President.
- M. DUBOST: When did you see him?
- M. DUBOST: You saw that on the pictures that you developed?
- M. DUBOST: Even to live?
- M. DUBOST: Were there any Catholic chaplains or any Protestant pastors?
- M. DUBOST: How were monks, priests, and pastors treated?
- M. DUBOST: They were not allowed to exercise their functions?
- M. DUBOST: Did the men who died have a chaplain before being executed?
- M. DUBOST: I have no further questions to ask of the witness.
- M. DUBOST: I have no further questions, Mr. President.
- M. DUBOST: We shall give it Exhibit Number RF-333.
- M. DUBOST: The whole book, except for the pictures.
- M. HANS CAPPELEN (Witness): Yes, I speak English.
- M. DUBOST: M. Cappelen, you were born 18 December 1903?
- M. DUBOST: In what town?
- M. DUBOST: What is your profession?
- M. DUBOST: How many Norwegians died at Gross-Rosen?
- M. DUBOST: For what reason were you arrested?
- M. DUBOST: What had you done? What was held against you?
- M. DUBOST: Were the dead treated with decency?
- M. DUBOST: Was there any religious service conducted?
- M. DUBOST: I have no further questions to ask.
- M. DUBOST: I have nothing further to ask, Mr. President. I thank you.
- M. PAUL ROSER (Witness): Roser, Paul.
- M. DUBOST: Your name is Paul Roser, R-o-s-e-r?
- M. DUBOST: You were born of French parents?
- M. DUBOST: You were a prisoner of war?
- M. DUBOST: You were taken prisoner in battle?
- M. DUBOST: In what year?
- M. DUBOST: You sought to escape?
- M. DUBOST: How many times?
- M. DUBOST: Had you agreed to work?
- M. DUBOST: Would you tell us why you were at Rawa-Ruska?
- M. DUBOST: Excuse me, you are talking about French prisoners of war?
- M. DUBOST: How many of you disappeared?
- M. DUBOST: Is this all that you have witnessed?
- M. DUBOST: We are listening to you.
- M. DUBOST: Were your camps guarded by the German Army or by the SS?
- M. DUBOST: Only by the German Army?
- M. DUBOST: And were you recaptured?
- M. DUBOST: What is your religion?
- M. DUBOST: Who?
- M. DUBOST: Who were soldiers of the German Army?
- M. DUBOST: I have no further questions.
- M. DUBOST: I shall do my best, Mr. President.
- M. DUBOST: Your name is Balachowsky, Alfred B-a-l-a-c-h-o-w-s-k-y?
- M. DUBOST: You are French?
- M. DUBOST: By birth?
- M. DUBOST: When were you naturalized?
- BALACHOWSKY: 1932.
- M. DUBOST: Can you tell us rapidly what you know about the Dora Camp?
- M. DUBOST: So far nobody has spoken about the Dora Camp, Mr. President.
- M. DUBOST: They were literally murdered to keep typhus germs alive?
- M. DUBOST: What is this document?
- M. DUBOST: This document was taken by you from the camp?
- M. DUBOST: Is this the document you handed to us?
- M. DUBOST: You might try and confine the witness.
- M. DUBOST: What were the results of these experiments?
- M. DUBOST: All were in the company of these German inverts?
- M. DUBOST: Did they not wear eventually a red triangle?
- M. DUBOST: And in the working groups?
- M. DUBOST: Will you please tell us what you know about them?
- M. DUBOST: Were there many tattooed human skins in Block 2?
- M. DUBOST: Did they skin people?
- M. DUBOST: Will you continue your testimony on that point?
- M. DUBOST: Where were these skins tanned?
- M. DUBOST: You expressly state it?
- M. DUBOST: What did they do in Block 50?
- M. DUBOST: What was the equipment?
- M. DUBOST: Thank you.
- M. DUBOST: Thank you. I have no further questions to put to the witness.
- M. DUBOST: I have no further questions, Your Honor.
- M. DUBOST: Thank you, Mr. President.
- M. Dubost, are you going to deal with documents this morning?
- M. DUBOST: Yes, Mr. President.
- M. DUBOST: Yes, Mr. President.
- M. DUBOST: The 30th of April 1944, but I am taking them at random.
- M. DUBOST: The 1 o’clock recess?
- I skip a paragraph:
- I pass over the rest of the paragraph. On Page 12:
- M. DUBOST: This report will be submitted to you, Mr. President.
- M. DUBOST: Yes.
- M. DUBOST: There is mention of an appendix to this document.
- M. DUBOST: It is all submitted in one file.
- M. DUBOST: Let us turn to Page 19, the last paragraph, entitled:
- M. DUBOST: I thank the Tribunal for sparing me the reading of it.
- M. DUBOST: This document, so far as I know, was never read.
- M. DUBOST: I shall do so, Mr. President.
- M. DUBOST: I thank you, Mr. President.
- M. DUBOST: That is right.
- M. DUBOST: Certainly, Mr. President.
- M. DUBOST: Mr. President, I was told that it had not been read.
- I am skipping a paragraph:
- M. DUBOST: I shall conform to the wishes of the Tribunal, Mr. President.
- I again skip four lines.
- I skip a paragraph.
- I now cite Paragraph 2 of the Dutch report:
- I will pass on.
- I submit Document F-913 as Exhibit Number RF-422—Page 96, I am quoting:
- M. DUBOST: It is signed by Keitel, Sir.
- M. DUBOST: It is the last document.
- M. DUBOST: I think by five-thirty I shall be through.
- M. DUBOST: I am at the orders of the Tribunal.
- I am now skipping a sentence that has no significance.
- I shall skip the following sentence and go to Paragraph 4:
- M. FAURE: Yes, Mr. President.
- M. FAURE: Yes, Your Honor.
- M. FAURE: M. Reuter, you are a lawyer of the Luxembourg Bar?
- M. FAURE: Do you remember the date of the census?
- M. FAURE: I thank you. Those are all the questions I have to put to you.
- M. FAURE: If that is convenient to the Tribunal.
- I now come to a very important paragraph:
- M. FAURE: Sit down, Mr. Vorrink. You are a Dutch Senator?
- M. FAURE: You are President of the Socialist Party of the Netherlands?
- M. FAURE: I thank you.
- M. FAURE: Yes.
- M. FAURE: I have no further questions.
- I skip one sentence and continue:
- M. FAURE: Yes, Mr. President.
- I shall end the quotation here, and continue at Paragraph 5:
- M. FAURE: What is your name?
- M. FAURE: You are the General Secretary of the University of Louvain?
- M. FAURE: Thank you.
- M. FAURE: No more questions, Mr. President.
- M. FAURE: I have no questions.
- I shall read the first paragraph of this Document Number RF-1101.
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