M. DUBOST: Did you personally see that?

DUPONT: I saw these tattoo marks prepared.

M. DUBOST: Then how did they obtain the anatomic exhibits, how did they

get these tattoo marks? They waited for a natural death, of course.

DUPONT: The cases I observed were natural deaths or executions. Before

our arrival—and I can name witnesses who can testify to this—they

killed a man to get these tattoo marks. It happened, I must emphasize,

when I was not at Buchenwald. I am repeating what was told me by

witnesses whose names I will give. During the period when the camp was

commanded by Koch, people who had particularly artistic tattoo marks

were killed. The witness I can refer to is a Luxembourger called Nicolas

Simon who lives in Luxembourg. He spent 6 years in Buchenwald in

exceptional conditions where he had unprecedented opportunities of

observation.

M. DUBOST: But I am told that Koch was sentenced to death and executed

because of these excesses.

DUPONT: As far as I know, Koch was mixed up with some sort of swindling

affair. He quarrelled with the SS administration. He was undoubtedly

arrested and imprisoned.

THE PRESIDENT: We had better have an adjournment now.

[_A recess was taken._]

M. DUBOST: We stopped at the end of the Koch story and the witness was

telling the Tribunal that Koch had been executed not for the crimes that

he had committed with regard to the internees in his charge, but because

of the numerous dishonest acts of which he had been guilty during his

period of service.

Did I understand the witness’ explanation correctly?

DUPONT: I said explicitly that he had been accused of dishonesty. I

cannot give precise details of all the charges. I cannot say that he was

accused exclusively of dishonest acts by his administration; I know that

such charges were made against him, but I have no further information.

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