M. DUBOST: How many times?

ROSER: Five times.

M. DUBOST: Five times. You were transferred finally to a disciplinary

camp?

ROSER: Yes.

M. DUBOST: Will you indicate the regime of such a camp? Will you

indicate your rank, and the treatment which French people of your rank

in those disciplinary camps had to submit to, and for what reasons?

ROSER: Very well, I was an “aspirant,” a rank which, in France, is

between a first sergeant and a second lieutenant. I was in several

disciplinary camps. The first was a small camp which the Germans called

Strafkommando, in Linzburg in Hanover. It was in 1941. There were about

thirty of us.

While I was in that camp during the summer of 1941, we attempted to

escape. We were recaptured by our guards at the very moment when we were

leaving the camp. We were naturally unarmed. The Germans, our guards,

having recaptured one of us, attempted to make him reveal the others who

also had sought to escape. The man remained silent. The guards hurled

themselves upon him, beating him with the butts of their pistols in the

face, with bayonets, with the butts of their rifles. At that moment, not

wishing to let our comrade be killed, several of us stepped forward and

revealed that we sought to escape. I then received a beating with

bayonets applied to my head and fell into a swoon. When I recovered

consciousness one of the Germans was kneeling on my leg and was

continuing to strike me. Another one, raising his gun, was seeking to

strike my head. I was saved on that occasion through the intervention of

my comrades, who threw themselves between the Germans and myself. That

night we were beaten for exactly 3 hours with rifle butts, with bayonet

blows, and with pistol butts in the face. I lost consciousness three

times.

The following day we were taken to work, nevertheless. We dug trenches

for the draining of the marshes. It was a very hard sort of work, which

started at 6:30 in the morning, to be completed at 6 o’clock at night.

We had two stops, each of a half-hour. We had nothing to eat during the

day. Soup was given to us, when we came back at night, with a piece of

bread, a small sausage or 2 cubic centimeters of margarine, and that was

all.

Following our attempted escape, our guards held back from us all the

parcels which our families sent to us for a month. We could not write

nor could we receive mail.

At the end of three and a half months, in September 1941, we were

shipped to the regular Kommandos. I, personally, was quite ill at that

time and I came back to Stalag X B at Sandbostel.

M. DUBOST: Why were you subjected to such a special regime, although you

were an “aspirant”?

ROSER: Certainly because of my attempted escape.

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