In the Recital of this Argument, (sayes _Carneades_) I therefore

thought fit to retain the Language wherein the Author proposes it,

that I might also retain the propriety of some Latine Termes, to which

I do not readily remember any that fully answer in English. But as for

the Argumentation it self, 'tis built upon a precarious supposition,

that seems to me neither Demonstrable nor true; for, how does it

appear, that where the same Quality is to be met with in many Bodies,

it must belong to them upon the Account of some one Body whereof they

all partake? (For that the Major of our Authors Argument is to be

Understood of the Material Ingredients of bodies, appears by the

Instances of Earth and Fire he annexes to explain it.) For to begin

with that very Example which he is pleas'd to alledge for himself; how

can he prove, that the Gravity of all Bodies proceeds from what they

participate of the Element of Earth? Since we see, that not only

common Water, but the more pure Distill'd Rain Water is heavy; and

Quicksilver is much heavier than Earth it self; though none of my

Adversaries has yet prov'd, that it contains any of that Element. And

I the Rather make use of this Example of Quicksilver, because I see

not how the Assertors of the Elements will give any better Account of

it then the Chymists. For if it be demanded how it comes to be Fluid,

they will answer, that it participates much of the Nature of Water.

And indeed, according to them, Water may be the Predominant Element

in it, since we see, that several Bodies which by Distillation afford

Liquors that weigh more then their _Caput Mortuum_ do not yet consist

of Liquor enough to be Fluid. Yet if it be demanded how Quicksilver

comes to be so heavy, then 'tis reply'd, that 'tis by reason of the

Earth that abounds in it; but since, according to them, it must

consist also of air, and partly of Fire, which they affirm to be light

Elements, how comes it that it should be so much heavier then Earth of

the same bulk, though to fill up the porosities and other Cavities it

be made up into a mass or paste with Water, which it self they allow

to be a heavy Element. But to returne to our _Spagyrists_, we see that

Chymical Oyles and fixt Salts, though never so exquisitely purify'd

and freed from terrestrial parts, do yet remain ponderous enough. And

Experience has inform'd me, that a pound, for instance, of some of the

heaviest Woods, as _Guajacum_ that will sink in Water, being burnt to

Ashes will yield a much less weight of them (whereof I found but a

small part to be Alcalyzate) then much lighter Vegetables: As also

that the black Charcoal of it will not sink as did the wood, but swim;

which argues that the Differing Gravity of Bodies proceeds chiefly

from their particular Texture, as is manifest in Gold, the closest and

Compactest of Bodies, which is many times heavier then we can possibly

make any parcell of Earth of the same Bulk. I will not examine, what

may be argu'd touching the Gravity or Quality Analagous thereunto, of

even Celestial bodies, from the motion of the spots about the Sun, d

[Errata: and] from the appearing equality of the suppos'd Seas in the

Moon; nor consider how little those _Phaemonea_ [Transcriber's Note:

Phaenomena] would agree with what _Sennertus_ presumes concerning

Gravity. But further to invalidate his supposition, I shall demand,

upon what Chymical Principle Fluidity depends? And yet Fluidity is,

two or three perhaps excepted, the most diffused quality of the

universe, and far more General then almost any other of those that are

to be met with in any of the Chymicall Principles, or _Aristotelian_

Elements; since not only the Air, but that vast expansion we call

Heaven, in comparison of which our Terrestrial Globe (supposing it

were all Solid) is but a point; and perhaps to [Errata: too] the Sun

and the fixt Stars are fluid bodies. I demand also, from which of the

Chymical Principles Motion flowes; which yet is an affection of matter

much more General then any that can be deduc'd from any of the three

Chymical Principles. I might ask the like Question concerning Light,

which is not only to be found in the Kindl'd Sulphur of mixt Bodis

[Transcriber's Note: Bodies], but (not to mention those sorts of

rotten Woods, and rotten Fish that shine in the Dark) in the tails of

living Glow-wormes, and in the Vast bodies of the Sun and Stars. I

would gladly also know, in which of the three Principles the Quality,

we call Sound, resides as in its proper Subject; since either Oyl

falling upon Oyle, or Spirit upon Spirit, or Salt upon Salt, in a

great quantity, and from a considerable height, will make a noise, or

if you please, create a sound, and (that the objection may reach the

_Aristotelians_) so will also water upon water, and Earth upon Earth.

And I could name other qualities to be met within divers bodies, of

which I suppose my Adversaries will not in haste assign any Subject,

upon whose Account it must needs be, that the quality belongs to all

the other several bodies.

And, before I proceed any further, I must here invite you to compare

the supposition we are examining, with some other of the Chymical

Tenents. For, first they do in effect teach that more then one quality

may belong to, and be deduc'd from, one Principle. For, they ascribe

to Salt Tasts, and the power of Coagulation; to sulphur, as well

Odours as inflamableness; And some of them ascribe to Mercury,

Colours; as all of them do effumability, as they speak. And on the

other side, it is evident that Volatility belongs in common to all the

three Principles, and to Water too. For 'tis manifest, that Chymical

Oyles are Volatile; That also divers Salts Emerging, upon the Analysis

of many Concretes, are very Volatile, is plain from the figitiveness

[Errata: fugitivenesse] of Salt, of Harts-horne, flesh, &c. ascending

in the Distillation of those bodies. How easily water may be made to

ascend in Vapours, there is scarce any body that has not observ'd. And

as for what they call the Mercuriall Principle of bodies, that is so

apt to be rais'd in the form of Steam, that _Paracelsus_ and others

define it by that aptness to fly up; so that (to draw that inference

by the way) it seems not that Chymists have been accurate in their

Doctrine of qualities, and their respective Principles, since they

both derive several qualities from the same Principle, and must

ascribe the same quality to almost all their Principles and other

bodies besides. And thus much for the first thing taken for granted,

without sufficient proof, by your _Sennertus_: And to add that upon

the Bye (continues _Carneades_) we may hence learn what to judge of

the way of Argumentation, which that fierce Champion of the

_Aristotelians_ against the Chymists, _Anthonius Guntherus

Billichius_[24] employes, where he pretends to prove against

_Beguinus_, that not only the four Elements do immediately concur to

Constitute every mixt body, and are both present in it, and obtainable

from it upon its Dissolution; but that in the _Tria Prima_ themselves,

whereinto Chymists are wont to resolve mixt Bodies, each of them

clearly discovers it self to consist of four Elements. The

Ratiocination it self (pursues _Carneades_) being somewhat unusual, I

did the other Day Transcribe it, and (sayes He, pulling a Paper out of

his Pocket) it is this. _Ordiamur, cum Beguino, a ligno viridi, quod

si concremetur, videbis in sudore Aquam, in fumo Aerem, in flamma &

Prunis Ignem, Terram in cineribus: Quod si Beguino placuerit ex eo

colligere humidum aquosum, cohibere humidum oleaginosum, extrahere ex

cineribus salem; Ego ipsi in unoquoque horum seorsim quatuor Elementa

ad oculum demonstrabo, eodem artificio quo in ligno viridi ea

demonstravi. Humorem aquosum admovebo Igni. Ipse Aquam Ebullire

videbit, in Vapore Aerem conspiciet, Ignem sentiet in aestu, plus minus

Terrae in sedimento apparebit. Humor porro Oleaginosus aquam humiditate

& fluiditate per se, accensus vero Ignem flamma prodit, fumo Aerem,

fuligine, nidore & amurca terram. Salem denique ipse Beguinus siccum

vocat & Terrestrem, qui tamen nec fusus Aquam, nec caustica vi ignem

celare potest; ignis vero Violentia in halitus versus nec ab Aere se

alienum esse demonstrat; Idem de Lacte, de Ovis, de semine Lini, de

Garyophyllis, de Nitro, de sale Marino, denique de Antimonio, quod

fuit de Ligno viridi Judicium; eadem de illorum partibus, quas_

Beguinus _adducit, sententia, quae de viridis ligni humore aquoso, quae

de liquore ejusdem oleoso, quae de sale fuit._

[Footnote 24: _In Thessalo redivivo. Cap. 10. pag. 73. & 74._]

This bold Discourse (resumes _Carneades_, putting up again his Paper,)

I think it were not very difficult to confute, if his Arguments were

as considerable as our time will probably prove short for the

remaining and more necessary Part of my Discourse; wherefore referring

You for an Answer to what was said concerning the Dissipated Parts of

a burnt piece of green Wood, to what I told _Themistius_ on the like

occasion, I might easily shew You, how sleightly and superficially our

_Guntherus_ talks of the dividing the flame of Green Wood into his

four Elements; _When_ he makes that vapour to be air, which being

caught in Glasses and condens'd, presently discovers it self to have

been but an Aggregate of innumerable very minute drops of Liquor; and

_When_ he would prove the Phlegmes being compos'd of Fire by that Heat

which is adventitious to the Liquor, and ceases upon the absence of

what produc'd it (whether that be an Agitation proceeding from the

motion of the External Fire, or the presence of a Multitude of igneous

Atomes pervading the pores of the Vessel, and nimbly permeating the

whole Body of the Water) I might, I say, urge these and divers other

Weaknesses of His Discourse. But I will rather take Notice of what is

more pertinent to the Occasion of this Digression, namely, that Taking

it for Granted, that Fluidity (with which he unwarily seems to

confound Humidity) must proceed from the Element of Water, he makes a

Chymical Oyle to Consist of that Elementary Liquor; and yet in the

very next Words proves, that it consists also of Fire, by its

Inflamability; not remembring that exquisitely pure Spirit of Wine is

both more Fluid then Water it self, and yet will Flame all away

without leaving the Least Aqueous Moisture behind it; and without such

an _Amurca_ and Soot as he would Deduce the presence of Earth from. So

that the same Liquor may according to his Doctrine be concluded by its

great Fluidity to be almost all Water; and by its burning all away to

be all disguised Fire. And by the like way of Probation our Author

would shew that the fixt salt of Wood is compounded of the four

Elements. For (sayes he) being turn'd by the violence of the Fire into

steames, it shews it self to be of kin to Air; whereas I doubt whether

he ever saw a true fixt Salt (which to become so, must have already

endur'd the violence of an Incinerating Fire) brought by the Fire

alone to ascend in the Forme of Exhalations; but I do not doubt that

if he did, and had caught those Exhalations in convenient Vessels, he

would have found them as well as the Steames of common Salt, &c. of a

Saline and not an Aereal Nature. And whereas our Authour takes it also

for Granted, that the Fusibility of Salt must be Deduc'd from Water,

it is indeed so much the Effect of heat variously agitating the Minute

Parts of a Body, without regard to Water, that Gold (which by its

being the heavyest and fixtest of Bodies, should be the most Earthy)

will be brought to Fusion by a strong Fire; which sure is more likely

to drive away then increase its Aqueous Ingredient, if it have any;

and on the other side, for want of a sufficient agitation of its

minute parts, Ice is not Fluid, but Solid; though he presumes also

that the Mordicant Quality of Bodies must proceed from a fiery

ingredient; whereas, not to urge that the Light and inflamable parts,

which are the most likely to belong to the Element of Fire, must

probably be driven away by that time the violence of the Fire has

reduc'd the Body to ashes; Not to urge this, I I [Transcriber's Note:

extra "I" in original] say, nor that Oyle of Vitriol which quenches

Fire, burnes the Tongue and flesh of those that Unwarily tast or apply

it, as a caustick doth, it is precarious to prove the Presence of Fire

in fixt salts from their Caustick power, unlesse it were first shewn,

that all the Qualities ascribed to salts must be deduc'd from those of

the Elements; which, had I Time, I could easily manifest to be no easy

talk. And not to mention that our Authour makes a Body as Homogeneous

as any he can produce for Elementary, belong both to Water and Fire,

Though it be neither Fluid nor Insipid, like Water; nor light and

Volatile, like Fire; he seems to omit in this Anatomy the Element of

Earth, save That he intimates, That the salt may pass for that; But

since a few lines before, he takes Ashes for Earth, I see not how he

will avoid an Inconsistency either betwixt the Parts of his Discourse

or betwixt some of them and his Doctrine. For since There is a

manifest Difference betwixt the Saline and the insipid Parts of Ashes,

I see not how substances That Disagree in such Notable Qualities can

be both said to be Portions of an Element, whose Nature requires that

it be Homogeneous, especially in this case where an _Analysis_ by the

Fire is suppos'd to have separated it from the admixture of other

Elements, which are confess'd by most _Aristotelians_ to be Generally

found in common Earth, and to render it impure. And sure if when we

have consider'd for how little a Disparities sake the Peripateticks

make these Symbolizing Bodies Aire and Fire to be two Distinct

Elements, we shall also consider that the Saline part of Ashes is very

strongly Tasted, and easily soluble in Water; whereas the other part

of the same Ashes is insipid and indissoluble in the same Liquor: Not

to add, that the one substance is Opacous, and the other somewhat

Diaphanous, nor that they differ in Divers other Particulars; If we

consider those things, I say, we shall hardly think that both these

Substances are Elementary Earth; And as to what is sometimes objected,

that their Saline Tast is only an Effect of Incineration and Adustion,

it has been elsewhere fully reply'd to, when propos'd by _Themistius_,

and where it has been prov'd against him, that however insipid Earth

may perhaps by Additaments be turn'd into Salt, yet 'tis not like it

should be so by the Fire alone: For we see that when we refine Gold

and Silver, the violentest Fires We can Employ on them give them not

the least Rellish of Saltness. And I think _Philoponus_ has rightly

observ'd, that the Ashes of some Concretes contain very little salt if

any at all; For Refiners suppose that bone-ashes are free from it, and

therefore make use of them for Tests and Cuppels, which ought to be

Destitute of Salt, lest the Violence of the Fire should bring them to

Vitrification; And having purposely and heedfully tasted a Cuppel made

of only bone-ashes and fair water, which I had caus'd to be expos'd

to a Very Violent Fire, acuated by the Blast of a large pair of Double

Bellows, I could not perceive that the force of the Fire had imparted

to it the least Saltness, or so much as made it less Insipid.

But (sayes _Carneades_) since neither You nor I love Repetitions, I

shall not now make any of what else was urg'd against _Themistius_ but

rather invite You to take notice with me that when our Authour, though

a Learned Man, and one that pretends skill enough in Chymistry to

reforme the whole Art, comes to make good his confident Undertaking,

to give us an occular Demonstration of the immediate Presence of the

four Elements in the resolution of Green Wood, He is fain to say

things that agree very little with one another. For about the

beginning of that passage of His lately recited to you, he makes the

sweat as he calls it of the green Wood to be Water, the smoke Aire,

the shining Matter Fire, and the Ashes Earth; whereas a few lines

after, he will in each of these, nay (as I just now noted) in one

Distinct Part of the Ashes, shew the four Elements. So that either the

former _Analysis_ must be incompetent to prove that Number of

Elements, since by it the burnt Concrete is not reduc'd into

Elementary Bodies, but into such as are yet each of them compounded of

the four Elements; or else these Qualities from which he endeavours to

deduce the presence of all the Elements, in the fixt salt, and each of

the other separated substances, will be but a precarious way of

probation: especially if you consider, that the extracted _Alcali_ of

Wood, being for ought appears at least as similar a Body as any that

the Peripateticks can shew us, if its differing Qualities must argue

the presence of Distinct Elements, it will scarce be possible for them

by any way they know of employing the fire upon a Body, to shew that

any Body is a Portion of a true Element: And this recals to my mind,

that I am now but in an occasional excussion, which aiming only to

shew that the Peripateticks as well as the Chymists take in our

present Controversie something for granted which they ought to prove,

I shall returne to my exceptions, where I ended the first of them, and

further tell you, that neither is that the only precarious thing that

I take notice of in _Sennertus_ his Argumentation; for when he

inferrs, that because the Qualities he Mentions as Colours, Smels, and

the like, belong not to the Elements; they therefore must to the

Chymical Principles, he takes that for granted, which will not in

haste be prov'd; as I might here manifest, but that I may by and by

have a fitter opportunity to take notice of it. And thus much at

present may suffice to have Discours'd against the Supposition, that

almost every Quality must have some [Greek: dektikon proton], as they

speak, some Native receptacle, wherein as in its proper Subject of

inhesion it peculiarly resides, and on whose account that quality

belongs to the other Bodies, Wherein it is to be met with. Now this

Fundamental supposition being once Destroy'd, whatsoever is built upon

it, must fall to ruine of it self.

But I consider further, that Chymists are (for ought I have found) far

from being able to explicate by any of the _Tria Prima_, those

qualities which they pretend to belong primarily unto it, and in mixt

Bodies to Deduce from it. Tis true indeed, that such qualities are

not explicable by the four Elements; but it will not therefore follow,

that they are so by the three hermetical Principles; and this is it

that seems to have deceiv'd the Chymists, and is indeed a very common

mistake amongst most Disputants, who argue as if there could be but

two Opinions concerning the Difficulty about which they contend; and

consequently they inferr, that if their Adversaries Opinion be

Erroneous, Their's must needs be the Truth; whereas many questions,

and especially in matters Physiological, may admit of so many

Differing _Hypotheses_, that 'twill be very inconsiderate and

fallacious to conclude (except where the Opinions are precisely

Contradictory) the Truth of one from the falsity of another. And in

our particular case 'tis no way necessary, that the Properties of mixt

Bodies must be explicable either by the Hermetical, or the

_Aristotelian Hypothesis_, there being divers other and more plausible

wayes of explaining them, and especially that, which deduces qualities

from the motion, figure, and contrivance of the small parts of Bodies;

as I think might be shewn, if the attempt were as seasonable, as I

fear it would be Tedious.

The Sceptical Chymist or Chymico-Physical Doubts & Paradoxes, Touching the Spagyrist's Principles Commonly call'd Hypostatical; As they are wont to be Propos'd and Defended by the Generality of Alchymists. Whereunto is præmis'd Part of another Discourse relating to the same Subject. · 第 15 / 20 段