The second enforces some resolutions of Congress, sent me with it,

respecting a loan of 12,000,000 of livres, to be demanded of France

for the current year. I had already received the promise of six

millions, together with the clearest and most positive assurances,

that it was all the King could spare to us, that we must not expect

more, that if drafts and demands came upon me beyond that sum, it

behoved me to take care how I accepted them, or where I should find

funds for the payment, since I could certainly not be further assisted

out of the royal treasury. Under this declaration, with what face

could I ask for another six millions? It would be saying, you are not

to be believed, you can spare more; you are able to lend me twice the

sum if you were but willing. If you read my letter to Mr Morris of

this date, I think you will be convinced how improper any language,

capable of such a construction, would be to such a friend. I hope,

however, that the loan Mr Adams has opened in Holland for three

millions of florins, which it is said is likely to succeed, will

supply the deficiency.

By the newspapers I have sent you will see, that the general

disposition of the British nation towards us had been changed. Two

persons have been sent here by the new ministers, to propose treating

for peace. They had at first some hopes of getting the belligerent

powers to treat separately, one after another, but finding that

impracticable, they have, after several messengers sent to and fro,

come to a resolution of treating with all together for a general

peace, and have agreed, that the place shall be Paris. Mr Grenville is

now here with full powers for that purpose, (if they can be reckoned

full with regard to America, till a certain act is completed for

enabling his Majesty to treat, &c, which has gone through the Commons,

and has been once read in the House of Lords.) I keep a very

particular journal of what passes every day in the affair, which is

transcribing to be sent to you. I shall, therefore, need to say no

more about it in this letter, except, that though I still think they

were sincere at first in their desire of peace, yet since their

success in the West Indies, I imagine, that I see marks of their

desiring rather to draw the negotiations into length, that they may

take the chance of what the campaign shall produce in their favor, and

as there are so many interests to adjust, if will be prudent for us to

suppose, that even another campaign may pass before all can be

agreed. Something too may happen to break off the negotiations, and we

should be prepared for the worst.

I hoped for the assistance of Mr Adams and Mr Laurens. The first is

too much engaged in Holland to come hither, and the other declines

serving; but I have now the satisfaction of being joined by Mr Jay,

who happily arrived here from Madrid last Sunday. The Marquis de

Lafayette is of great use in our affairs here, and as the campaign is

not likely to be very active in North America, I wish I may be able to

prevail with him to stay a few weeks longer. By him you will receive

the journal abovementioned, which is already pretty voluminous, and

yet the negotiations cannot be said to be opened.

Ireland you will see has obtained all her demands triumphantly. I meet

no one from that country, who does not express some obligations to

America for their success.

Before I received your just observations on the subject, I had

obtained from the English Ministers a resolution to exchange all our

prisoners. They thought themselves obliged to have an act of

Parliament about it for authorising the King to do it, this war being

different from others, as made by an act of Parliament declaring us

rebels, and our people being committed for high treason. I empowered

Mr Hodgson, who was chairman of the committee, that collected and

dispensed the charitable subscriptions for the American prisoners, to

treat and conclude on the terms of their discharge, and having

approved of the draft he sent me of the agreement, I hope Congress

will see fit to order a punctual execution of it. I have long suffered

with those poor brave men, who with so much public virtue have endured

four or five years hard imprisonment, rather than serve against their

country. I have done all I could afford towards making their

situation more comfortable; but their numbers were so great, that I

could do but little for each, and that very great villain, Digges,

defrauded them of between three and four hundred pounds, which he drew

from me on their account. He lately wrote me a letter, in which he

pretended he was coming to settle with me, and to convince me, that I

had been mistaken with regard to his conduct; but he never appeared,

and I hear he is gone to America. Beware of him, for he is very

artful, and has cheated many. I hear every day of new rogueries

committed by him in England.

The Ambassador from Sweden to this Court applied to me lately to know,

if I had powers that would authorise my making a treaty with his

master in behalf of the United States. Recollecting a general power,

that was formerly given to me with the other Commissioners, I answered

in the affirmative. He seemed much pleased, and said the King had

directed him to ask the question, and charged him to tell me that he

had so great esteem for me, that it would be a particular satisfaction

to him to have such a transaction with me. I have perhaps some vanity

in repeating this; but I think too, that it is right that Congress

should know it, and judge if any use may be made of the reputation of

a citizen for the public service. In case it should be thought fit to

employ me in that business, it will be well to send a more particular

power, and proper instructions. The Ambassador added, that it was a

pleasure to him to think, and he hoped it would be remembered, that

Sweden was the first power in Europe, which had voluntarily offered

its friendship to the United States without being solicited. This

affair should be talked of as little as possible till completed.

I enclose another complaint from Denmark, which I request you will lay

before Congress. I am continually pestered with complaints from French

seamen, who were with Captain Cunningham in his first cruise from

Dunkirk; from others who were in the Lexington, the Alliance, &c.

being put on board prizes that were retaken, were never afterwards

able to join their respective ships, and so have been deprived of the

wages, &c. due to them. It is for our national honor, that justice

should be done them if possible; and I wish you to procure an order of

Congress for inquiring into their demands, and satisfying such as

shall be found just. It may be addressed to the Consul.

I enclose a note from M. de Vergennes to me, accompanied by a memoir

relating to a Swiss, who died at Edenton. If you can procure the

information desired, it will much oblige the French Ambassador in

Switzerland.

I have made the addition you directed to the cypher. I rather prefer

the old one of Dumas, perhaps because I am more used to it. I enclose

several letters from that ancient and worthy friend of our country. He

is now employed as secretary to Mr Adams, and I must, from a long

experience of his zeal and usefulness, beg leave to recommend him

warmly to the consideration of Congress, with regard to his

appointments, which have never been equal to his merit. As Mr Adams

writes me the good news, that he shall no longer be obliged to draw on

me for his salary, I suppose it will be proper to direct his paying

that which shall be allowed to M. Dumas.

Be pleased to present my duty to the Congress, and believe me to be,

with great esteem and regard,

B. FRANKLIN.

* * * * *

TO ROBERT R. LIVINGSTON.

Passy, June 29th, 1782.

Sir,

In mine of the 25th instant, I omitted mentioning, that at the

repeated earnest instances of Mr Laurens, who had given such

expectations to the Ministry in England, when his parole or securities

were discharged, as that he could not think himself at liberty to act

in public affairs, till the parole of Lord Cornwallis was absolved by

me in exchange, I sent to that General the paper of which the enclosed

is a copy;[35] and I see by the English papers, that his Lordship

immediately on the receipt of it appeared at Court, and has taken his

seat in the House of Peers, which he did not before think was

warrantable. My authority for doing this appeared questionable to

myself, but Mr Laurens judged it deducible from that respecting

General Burgoyne, and, by his letters to me, seemed so unhappy till it

was done, that I ventured it, with a clause, however, as you will see,

reserving to Congress the approbation or disallowance of it.

[35] See above, p. 362.

The enabling act is now said to be passed, but no copy of it is yet

received here, so that as the bill first printed has suffered

alterations in passing through Parliament, and we know not what they

are, the treaty with us is not yet commenced. Mr Grenville expects his

courier in a few days, with the answer of his Court to a paper given

him on the part of this. That answer will probably afford us a clearer

understanding of the intentions of the British Ministry, which for

some weeks past have appeared somewhat equivocal and uncertain. It

looks as if, since their late success in the West Indies, they a

little repented of the advances they had made in their declarations,

respecting the acknowledgment of our independence; and we have pretty

good information, that some of the Ministers still flatter the King

with the hope of recovering his sovereignty over us, on the same terms

as are now making with Ireland. However willing we might have been at

the commencement of this contest to have accepted such conditions, be

assured we can have no safety in them at present. The King hates us

most cordially. If he is once admitted to any degree of power and

government among us, however limited, it will soon be extended by

corruption, artifice, and force, till we are reduced to absolute

subjection, and that the more easily, as, by receiving him again for

our King, we shall draw upon us the contempt of all Europe, who now

admire and respect us, and shall never again find a friend to assist

us. There are, it is said, great divisions in the Ministry on other

points as well as this, and those who aim at engrossing the power,

flatter the King with this project of reunion, and, it is said, have

much reliance on the operations of private agents sent into America to

dispose minds there in favor of it, and to bring about a separate

treaty there with General Carleton. I have not the least apprehension,

that Congress will give into this scheme, it being inconsistent with

our treaties, as well as with our interest; but I think it will be

well to watch the emissaries, and secure, or banish immediately, such

as shall be found tampering and stirring up the people to call for it.

The firm united resolution of France, Spain, and Holland joined with

ours, not to treat of a particular, but a general peace,

notwithstanding the separate tempting offers to each, will in the end

give us the command of that peace. Every one of the other powers see

clearly its interest in this, and persists in that resolution. The

Congress I am persuaded are as clear sighted as any of them, and will

not depart from the system, which has been attended with so much

success, and promises to make America soon both great and happy.

I have just received a letter from Mr Laurens, dated at Lyons, on his

journey into the south of France for his health. Mr Jay will write

also by this opportunity.

With great esteem, I have the honor to be, &c.

B. FRANKLIN.

JOURNAL

OF THE NEGOTIATION FOR PEACE WITH GREAT BRITAIN

* * * * *

FROM MARCH 21ST TO JULY 1ST, 1782.

Passy May 9th, 1782.

As since the change of the Ministry of England, some serious

professions have been made of their disposition to peace, and of their

readiness to enter into a general treaty for that purpose; and as the

concerns and claims of five nations are to be discussed in that

treaty, which must therefore be interesting to the present age, and to

posterity, I am inclined to keep a journal of the proceedings as far

as they come to my knowledge, and to make it more complete, I will

first endeavor to recollect what has already past. Great affairs

sometimes take their rise from small circumstances. My good friend and

neighbor Madame Brillon, being at Nice all last winter for her health,

with her very amiable family, wrote to me that she had met with some

English gentry there, whose acquaintance proved agreeable; among them

she named Lord Cholmondely, who she said had promised to call in his

return to England, and drink tea with us at Passy. He left Nice sooner

than she supposed, and came to Paris long before her. On the 21st of

March, I received the following note.

"Lord Cholmondely's compliments to Dr Franklin; he sets out for

London tomorrow evening, and should be glad to see him for five

minutes before he went. Lord Cholmondely will call upon him at

any time in the morning he shall please to appoint.

Thursday evening. Hotel de Chartres."

I wrote for answer, that I should be at home all the next morning, and

glad to see his Lordship if he did me the honor of calling on me. He

came accordingly. I had before no personal knowledge of this nobleman.

We talked of our friends whom he left at Nice, then of affairs in

England, and the late resolutions of the Commons on Mr Conway's

motion. He told me that he knew Lord Shelburne had a great regard for

me, that he was sure his Lordship would be pleased to hear from me,

and that if I would write a line he should have a pleasure in carrying

it. On which I wrote the following.

* * * * *

TO LORD SHELBURNE.

Passy, March 22d, 1782.

"My Lord,

"Lord Cholmondely having kindly offered to take a letter from me to

your Lordship, I embrace the opportunity of assuring the continuance

of my ancient respect for your talents and virtues, and of

congratulating you on the returning good disposition of your country

in favor of America, which appears in the late resolutions of the

Commons. I am persuaded it will have good effects. I hope it will tend

to produce a _general peace_, which I am sure your Lordship, with all

good men, desires, which I wish to see before I die, and to which I

shall, with infinite pleasure, contribute everything in my power.

"Your friends, the Abbé Morellet and Madame Helvetius, are well. You

have made the latter very happy by your present of gooseberry bushes,

which arrived in five days, and in excellent order. With great and

sincere esteem, I have the honor to be, &c. &c.

B. FRANKLIN."

Soon after this we heard from England, that a total change had taken

place in the Ministry, and that Lord Shelburne had come in as

Secretary of State. But I thought no more of my letter, till an old

friend and near neighbor of mine many years in London appeared at

Passy, and introduced a Mr Oswald, whom he said had a great desire to

see me, and Mr Oswald, after some little conversation, gave me the

following letters from Lord Shelburne and Mr Laurens.

* * * * *

LORD SHELBURNE TO B. FRANKLIN.

London, April 6th, 1782.

"Dear Sir,

"I have been favored with your letter, and am much obliged by your

remembrance. I find myself returned early to the same situation, which

you remember me to have occupied nineteen years ago, and I should be

very glad to talk to you as I did then, and afterwards in 1767, upon

the means of promoting the happiness of mankind, a subject much more

agreeable to my nature, than the best concerted plans for spreading

misery and devastation. I have had a high opinion of the compass of

your mind, and of your foresight. I have often been beholden to both,

and shall be glad to be so again, as far as is compatible with your

situation. Your letter discovering the same disposition, has made me

send to you Mr Oswald. I have had a longer acquaintance with him,

than even I have had the pleasure to have with you. I believe him an

honest man, and, after consulting some of our common friends, I have

thought him the fittest for the purpose. He is a pacifical man, and

conversant in those negotiations, which are most interesting to

mankind. This has made me prefer him to any of our speculative

friends, or to any person of higher rank. He is fully apprized of my

mind, and you may give full credit to everything he assures you of. At

the same time, if any other channel occurs to you, I am ready to

embrace it. I wish to retain the same simplicity and good faith, which

subsisted between us in transactions of less importance. I have the

honor to be, &c.

SHELBURNE."

* * * * *

HENRY LAURENS TO B. FRANKLIN.

London, April 7th, 1782.

"Dear Sir,

"Richard Oswald, Esquire, who will do me the honor of delivering this,

is a gentleman of the strictest candor and integrity. I dare give such

assurances from an experience little short of thirty years, and to

add, you will be perfectly safe in conversing freely with him on the

business he will introduce, a business, which Mr Oswald has

disinterestedly engaged in, from motives of benevolence, and from the

choice of the man a persuasion follows, that the Electors mean to be

in earnest.

"Some people in this country, who have too long indulged themselves in

abusing everything American, have been pleased to circulate an

opinion, that Dr Franklin is a very cunning man, in answer to which, I

have remarked to Mr Oswald, 'Dr Franklin knows very well how to

manage a cunning man, but when the Doctor converses, or treats with a

man of candor, there is no man more candid than himself.' I do not

know whether you will ultimately agree on political sketches, but I am

sure, as gentlemen, you will part very well pleased with each other.

Should you, Sir, think proper to communicate to me your sentiments and

advice on our affairs, the more amply the more acceptable, and

probably the more serviceable; Mr Oswald will take charge of your

despatches, and afford a secure means of conveyance.

"To this gentleman I refer you for general information of a journey,

which I am immediately to make, partly in his company, at Ostend, to

file off for the Hague. I feel a willingness, infirm as I am, to

attempt doing as much good as can be expected from such a prisoner

upon parole. As General Burgoyne is certainly exchanged, (a

circumstance, by the by, which possibly might have embarrassed us, had

your late propositions been accepted) may I presume at my return to

offer another Lieutenant General, now in England, a prisoner upon

parole, in exchange; or what shall I offer in exchange for myself, a

thing in my own estimation of no great value? I have the honor to be,

with great respect, and, permit me to add, great reverence, Sir, &c.

HENRY LAURENS."

I entered into conversation with Mr Oswald. He was represented in the

letter as fully apprized of Lord Shelburne's mind, and I was desirous

of knowing it. All I could learn was, that the new Ministry sincerely

wished for a peace, that they considered the object of the war, to

France and America, as obtained. That if the independence of the

United States was agreed to, there was no other point in dispute, and

therefore nothing to hinder a pacification. That they were ready to

treat of _Peace_, but he intimated, that if France should insist upon

terms too humiliating to England, they could still continue the war,

having yet great strength, and many resources left. I let him know,

that America would not treat but in concert with France, and that my

colleagues not being here, I could do nothing of importance in the

affair; but that, if he pleased, I would present him to M. de

Vergennes, Secretary of State for foreign Affairs. He consenting, I

wrote and sent the following letter.

* * * * *

TO COUNT DE VERGENNES.

Passy, April 15th, 1782.

"Sir,

"An English nobleman, Lord Cholmondely, lately returning from Italy,

called upon me here, at the time when we received the news of the

first resolutions of the House of Commons, relating to America. In

conversation he said, that he knew his friend, Lord Shelburne, had a

great regard for me, that it would be pleasing to him to hear of my

welfare, and receive a line from me, of which he, Lord Cholmondely,

should like to be the bearer, adding, if there should be a change of

Ministry, he believed Lord Shelburne would be employed. I thereupon

wrote a few lines, of which I enclose a copy. This day I received an

answer, which I also enclose, together with another letter from Mr

Laurens. They both, as your Excellency will see, recommend the bearer,

Mr Oswald, as a very honest, sensible man. I have had a little

conversation with him. He tells me, that there has been a desire of

making a separate peace with America, and continuing the war with

France and Spain, but that now all wise people give up that idea as

impracticable, and it is his private opinion, that the Ministry do

sincerely desire a _general peace_, and that they will readily come

into it, provided France does not insist upon conditions too

humiliating for England, in which case she will make great and violent

efforts, rather than submit to them, and that much is still in her

power, &c.

"I told the gentleman, that I could not enter into particulars with

him, but in concert with the Ministers of this Court. And I proposed

introducing him to your Excellency, after communicating to you the

letters he had brought me, in case you should think fit to see him,

with which he appeared to be pleased. I intend waiting on you

tomorrow, when you will please to acquaint me with your intentions,

and favor me with your counsels. He had heard nothing of Forth's

mission, and the old Ministry had not acquainted the new with that

transaction. Mr Laurens came over with him in the same vessel, and

went from Ostend to Holland. With great respect, I am, &c.

B. FRANKLIN."

The next day, being at Court with the Foreign Ministers, as usual on

Tuesdays, I saw M. de Vergennes, who acquainted me, that he had caused

the letters to be translated, had considered the contents, and should

like to see Mr Oswald. We agreed that the interview should be on

Wednesday at 10 o'clock. Immediately on my return home, I wrote to Mr

Oswald, acquainting him with what had passed at Versailles, and

proposing, that he should be with me at half past eight the next

morning, in order to proceed thither. I received from him the

following answer.

* * * * *

Paris, April 16th.

"Sir,

"I have the honor of yours by the bearer, and shall be sure to wait on

you tomorrow, at half past eight, and am, with much respect, &c.

RICHARD OSWALD."

He came accordingly, and we arrived at Versailles punctually. M. de

Vergennes received him with much civility. Mr Oswald not being ready

in speaking French, M. de Rayneval interpreted. Mr Oswald at first

thought of sending an express, with the account of the conversation,

which continued near an hour, and was offered a passport, but finally

concluded to go himself; and I wrote the next day the letter

following.

* * * * *

TO LORD SHELBURNE.

Passy, April 18th, 1782.

"My Lord,

"I have received the letter your Lordship did me the honor of writing

to me on the 6th instant. I congratulate you on your new appointment

to the honorable and important office you formerly filled so worthily,

which must be so far pleasing to you, as it affords you more

opportunities of doing good, and of serving your country essentially

in its great concerns.

"I have conversed a good deal with Mr Oswald, and am much pleased with

him. He appears to me a wise and honest man. I acquainted him, that I

was commissioned, with others, to treat of and conclude a peace. That

full powers were given us for that purpose, and that the Congress

promised in good faith to ratify, confirm, and cause to be faithfully

observed, the treaty we should make; but that we would not treat

separately from France, and I proposed introducing him to the Count de

Vergennes, to whom I communicated your Lordship's letter containing Mr

Oswald's character, as a foundation for the interviews. He will

acquaint you, that the assurance he gave of His Britannic Majesty's

good dispositions towards peace was well received, and assurances

returned of the same good dispositions in His Most Christian Majesty.

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