My Lords, I have now laid before you the general outline of the

policy that we have pursued, both in the Congress of Berlin and at

Constantinople. They are intimately connected with each other, and

they must be considered together. I only hope that the House will not

misunderstand--and I think the country will not misunderstand--our

motives in occupying Cyprus, and in encouraging those intimate

relations between ourselves and the Government and the population of

Turkey. They are not movements of war; they are operations of peace

and civilization. We have no reason to fear war. Her Majesty has

fleets and armies which are second to none. England must have seen

with pride the Mediterranean covered with her ships; she must have

seen with pride the discipline and devotion which have been shown to

her and her Government by all her troops, drawn from every part of her

Empire. I leave it to the illustrious duke, in whose presence I speak,

to bear witness to the spirit of Imperial patriotism which has been

exhibited by the troops from India, which he recently reviewed at

Malta. But it is not on our fleets and armies, however necessary they

may be for the maintenance of our Imperial strength, that I alone or

mainly depend in that enterprise on which this country is about to

enter. It is on what I most highly value--the consciousness that in

the Eastern nations there is confidence in this country, and that,

while they know we can enforce our policy, at the same time they know

that our Empire is an Empire of liberty, of truth, and of justice.

SIR EDWARD GREY

AUGUST 3, 1914

NEGOTIATIONS

Last week I stated that we were working for peace not only for this

country, but to preserve the peace of Europe. To-day events move so

rapidly that it is exceedingly difficult to state with technical

accuracy the actual state of affairs, but it is clear that the peace

of Europe cannot be preserved. Russia and Germany, at any rate, have

declared war upon each other.

Before I proceed to state the position of His Majesty's Government, I

would like to clear the ground so that, before I come to state to the

House what our attitude is with regard to the present crisis, the

House may know exactly under what obligations the Government is, or

the House can be said to be, in coming to a decision on the matter.

First of all let me say, very shortly, that we have consistently

worked with a single mind, with all the earnestness in our power, to

preserve peace. The House may be satisfied on that point. We have

always done it. During these last years, as far as His Majesty's

Government are concerned, we would have no difficulty in proving that

we have done so. Throughout the Balkan crisis, by general admission,

we worked for peace. The co-operation of the Great Powers of Europe

was successful in working for peace in the Balkan crisis. It is true

that some of the Powers had great difficulty in adjusting their points

of view. It took much, time and labour and discussion before they

could settle their differences, but peace was secured, because peace

was their main object, and they were willing to give time and trouble

rather than accentuate differences rapidly.

In the present crisis, it has not been possible to secure the peace

of Europe; because there has been little time, and there has been

a disposition--at any rate in some quarters on which I will not

dwell--to force things rapidly to an issue, at any rate, to the great

risk of peace, and, as we now know, the result of that is that the

policy of peace, as far as the Great Powers generally are concerned,

is in danger. I do not want to dwell on that, and to comment on it,

and to say where the blame seems to us to lie, which Powers were most

in favour of peace, which were most disposed to risk or endanger

peace, because I would like the House to approach this crisis in which

we are now, from the point of view of British interests, British

honour, and British obligations, free from all passion as to why peace

has not been preserved.

We shall publish Papers as soon as we can regarding what took place

last week when we were working for peace; and when those Papers are

published, I have no doubt that to every human being they will make

it clear how strenuous and genuine and whole-hearted our efforts

for peace were, and that they will enable people to form their own

judgement as to what forces were at work which operated against peace.

I come first, now, to the question of British obligations. I have

assured the House--and the Prime Minister has assured the House more

than once--that, if any crisis such as this arose, we should come

before the House of Commons and be able to say to the House that it

was free to decide what the British attitude should be, that we would

have no secret engagement which we should spring upon the House, and

tell the House that, because we had entered into that engagement,

there was an obligation of honour upon the country. I will deal with

that point to clear the ground first.

There has been in Europe two diplomatic groups, the Triple Alliance

and what came to be called the 'Triple Entente', for some years past.

The Triple Entente was not an Alliance--it was a diplomatic group. The

House will remember that in 1908 there was a crisis, also a Balkan

crisis, originating in the annexation of Bosnia and Herzegovina. The

Russian Minister, M. Isvolsky, came to London, or happened to come to

London, because his visit was planned before the crisis broke out. I

told him definitely then, this being a Balkan crisis, a Balkan affair,

I did not consider that public opinion in this country would justify

us in promising to give anything more than diplomatic support. More

was never asked from us, more was never given, and more was never

promised.

In this present crisis, up till yesterday, we have also given no

promise of anything more than diplomatic support--up till yesterday no

promise of more than diplomatic support. Now I must make this question

of obligation clear to the House. I must go back to the first Moroccan

crisis of 1906. That was the time of the Algeciras Conference, and it

came at a time of very great difficulty to His Majesty's Government

when a General Election was in progress, and Ministers were scattered

over the country, and I--spending three days a week in my constituency

and three days at the Foreign Office--was asked the question whether

if that crisis developed into war between France and Germany we would

give armed support. I said then that I could promise nothing to any

foreign Power unless it was subsequently to receive the whole-hearted

support of public opinion here if the occasion arose. I said, in

my opinion, if war was forced upon France then on the question of

Morocco--a question which had just been the subject of agreement

between this country and France, an agreement exceedingly popular on

both sides--that if out of that agreement war was forced on France

at that time, in my view public opinion in this country would have

rallied to the material support of France.

I gave no promise, but I expressed that opinion during the crisis, as

far as I remember, almost in the same words, to the French Ambassador

and the German Ambassador at the time. I made no promise, and I used

no threats; but I expressed that opinion. That position was accepted

by the French Government, but they said to me at the time--and I think

very reasonably--'If you think it possible that the public opinion

of Great Britain might, should a sudden crisis arise, justify you

in giving to France the armed support which you cannot promise in

advance, you will not be able to give that support, even if you wish

to give it, when the time comes, unless some conversations have

already taken place between naval and military experts.' There was

force in that. I agreed to it, and authorized those conversations

to take place, but on the distinct understanding that nothing which

passed between military or naval experts should bind either Government

or restrict in any way their freedom to make a decision as to whether

or not they would give that support when the time arose.

As I have told the House, upon that occasion a General Election was in

prospect. I had to take the responsibility of doing that without

the Cabinet. It could not be summoned. An answer had to be given.

I consulted Sir Henry Campbell-Bannerman, the Prime Minister; I

consulted, I remember, Lord Haldane, who was then Secretary of State

for War, and the present Prime Minister, who was then Chancellor of

the Exchequer. That was the most I could do, and they authorized that,

on the distinct understanding that it left the hands of the Government

free whenever the crisis arose. The fact that conversations between

military and naval experts took place was later on--I think much

later on, because that crisis passed, and the thing ceased to be of

importance--but later on it was brought to the knowledge of the

Cabinet.

The Agadir crisis came--another Morocco crisis--and throughout that

I took precisely the same line that had been taken in 1906. But

subsequently, in 1912, after discussion and consideration in the

Cabinet it was decided that we ought to have a definite understanding

in writing, which was to be only in the form of an unofficial letter,

that these conversations which took place were not binding upon the

freedom of either Government; and on the 22nd of November, 1912, I

wrote to the French Ambassador the letter which I will now read to the

House, and I received from him a letter in similar terms in reply. The

letter which I have to read to the House is this, and it will be known

to the public now as the record that, whatever took place between

military and naval experts, they were not binding engagements upon the

Government:

My dear Ambassador,--From time to time in recent years

the French and British naval and military experts have consulted

together. It has always been understood that such

consultation does not restrict the freedom of either Government

to decide at any future time whether or not to assist

the other by armed force. We have agreed that consultation

between experts is not, and ought not, to be regarded as

an engagement that commits either Government to action in

a contingency that has not yet arisen and may never arise.

The disposition, for instance, of the French and British Fleets

respectively at the present moment is not based upon an

engagement to co-operate in war.

You have, however, pointed out that, if either Government

had grave reason to expect an unprovoked attack by

a third Power, it might become essential to know whether

it could in that event depend upon the armed assistance of

the other.

I agree that, if either Government had grave reason to

expect an unprovoked attack by a third Power, or something

that threatened the general peace, it should immediately

discuss with the other whether both Governments

should act together to prevent aggression and to

preserve peace, and, if so, what measures they would be

prepared to take in common.

Lord Charles Beresford: What is the date of that?

Sir E. Grey: The 22nd November, 1912. That is the starting-point for

the Government with regard to the present crisis. I think it makes it

clear that what the Prime Minister and I said to the House of Commons

was perfectly justified, and that, as regards our freedom to decide

in a crisis what our line should be, whether we should intervene or

whether we should abstain, the Government remained perfectly free,

and, _a fortiori_, the House of Commons remains perfectly free. That I

say to clear the ground from the point of view of obligation. I think

it was due, to prove our good faith to the House of Commons, that I

should give, that full information to the House now, and say what I

think is obvious from the letter I have just read, that we do not

construe anything which has previously taken place in our diplomatic

relations with other Powers in this matter as restricting the freedom

of the Government to decide what attitude they should take now, or

restrict the freedom of the House of Commons to decide what their

attitude should be.

Well, Sir, I will go further, and I will say this: The situation in

the present crisis is not precisely the same as it was in the Morocco

question. In the Morocco question it was primarily a dispute which

concerned France--a dispute which concerned France and France

primarily--a dispute, as it seemed to us, affecting France, out of an

agreement subsisting between us and France, and published to the whole

world, in which we engaged to give France diplomatic support. No doubt

we were pledged to give nothing but diplomatic support; we were, at

any rate, pledged by a definite public agreement to stand with France

diplomatically in that question.

The present crisis has originated differently. It has not originated

with regard to Morocco.

It has not originated as regards anything with which we had a special

agreement with France; it has not originated with anything which

primarily concerned France. It has originated in a dispute

between Austria and Servia. I can say this with the most absolute

confidence--no Government and no country has less desire to be

involved in war over a dispute with Austria and Servia than the

Government and the country of France. They are involved in it because

of their obligation of honour under a definite alliance with Russia.

Well, it is only fair to say to the House that that obligation of

honour cannot apply in the same way to us. We are not parties to

the Franco-Russian Alliance. We do not even know the terms of that

Alliance. So far I have, I think, faithfully and completely cleared

the ground with regard to the question of obligation.

I now come to what we think the situation requires of us. For many

years we have had a long-standing friendship with France. I remember

well the feeling in the House--and my own feeling--for I spoke on the

subject, I think, when the late Government made their agreement with

France--the warm and cordial feeling resulting from the fact that

these two nations, who had had perpetual differences in the past, had

cleared these differences away. I remember saying, I think, that it

seemed to me that some benign influence had been at work to produce

the cordial atmosphere that had made that possible. But how far that

friendship entails obligation--it has been a friendship between

the nations and ratified by the nations--how far that entails an

obligation, let every man look into his own heart, and his own

feelings, and construe the extent of the obligation for himself. I

construe it myself as I feel it, but I do not wish to urge upon any

one else more than their feelings dictate as to what they should feel

about the obligation. The House, individually and collectively, may

judge for itself. I speak my personal view, and I have given the House

my own feeling in the matter.

The French fleet is now in the Mediterranean, and the northern and

western coasts of France are absolutely undefended. The French fleet

being concentrated in the Mediterranean, the situation is very

different from what it used to be, because the friendship which has

grown up between the two countries has given them a sense of security

that there was nothing to be feared from us.

The French coasts are absolutely undefended. The French fleet is in

the Mediterranean, and has for some years been concentrated there

because of the feeling of confidence and friendship which has existed

between the two countries. My own feeling is that if a foreign fleet,

engaged in a war which France had not sought, and in which she had not

been the aggressor, came down the English Channel and bombarded and

battered the undefended coasts of France, we could not stand aside and

see this going on practically within sight of our eyes, with our arms

folded, looking on dispassionately, doing nothing! I believe that

would be the feeling of this country. There are times when one feels

that if these circumstances actually did arise, it would be a feeling

which would spread with irresistible force throughout the land.

But I also want to look at the matter without sentiment, and from the

point of view of British interests, and it is on that that I am going

to base and justify what I am presently going to say to the House. If

we say nothing at this moment, what is France to do with her fleet in

the Mediterranean? If she leaves it there, with no statement from us

as to what we will do, she leaves her northern and western coasts

absolutely undefended, at the mercy of a German fleet coming down the

Channel, to do as it pleases in a war which is a war of life and death

between them. If we say nothing, it may be that the French fleet is

withdrawn from the Mediterranean. We are in the presence of a European

conflagration; can anybody set limits to the consequences that may

arise out of it? Let us assume that to-day we stand aside in an

attitude of neutrality, saying, 'No, we cannot undertake and engage to

help either party in this conflict.' Let us suppose the French fleet

is withdrawn from the Mediterranean; and let us assume that the

consequences--which are already tremendous in what has happened in

Europe even to countries which are at peace, in fact, equally whether

countries are at peace or at war--let us assume that out of that come

consequences unforeseen, which make it necessary at a sudden moment

that, in defence of vital British interests, we should go to war: and

let us assume--which is quite possible--that Italy, who is now neutral

because, as I understand, she considers that this war is an aggressive

war, and the Triple Alliance being a defensive alliance her obligation

did not arise--let us assume that consequences which are not yet

foreseen--and which, perfectly legitimately consulting her own

interests, make Italy depart from her attitude of neutrality at a time

when we are forced in defence of vital British interests ourselves to

fight, what then will be the position in the Mediterranean? It might

be that at some critical moment those consequences would be forced

upon us because our trade-routes in the Mediterranean might be vital

to this country.

Nobody can say that in the course of the next few weeks there is any

particular trade-route the keeping open of which may not be vital to

this country. What will be our position then? We have not kept a

fleet in the Mediterranean which is equal to dealing alone with a

combination of other fleets in the Mediterranean. It would be the very

moment when we could not detach more ships to the Mediterranean, and

we might have exposed this country from our negative attitude at the

present moment to the most appalling risk. I say that from the point

of view of British interests. We feel strongly that France was

entitled to know, and to know at once, whether or not in the event

of attack upon her unprotected northern and western coasts she

could depend upon British support. In that emergency, and in these

compelling circumstances, yesterday afternoon I gave to the French

Ambassador the following statement:

I am authorized to give an assurance that if the German

fleet comes into the Channel or through the North Sea to

undertake hostile operations against the French coasts or

shipping, the British fleet will give all the protection in its

power. This assurance is, of course, subject to the policy

of His Majesty's Government receiving the support of

Parliament, and must not be taken as binding His Majesty's

Government to take any action until the above contingency

of action by the German fleet takes place.

I read that to the House, not as a declaration of war on our part, not

as entailing immediate aggressive action on our part, but as binding

us to take aggressive action should that contingency arise. Things

move very hurriedly from hour to hour. Fresh news comes in, and I

cannot give this in any very formal way; but I understand that the

German Government would be prepared, if we would pledge ourselves to

neutrality, to agree that its fleet would not attack the northern

coast of France. I have only heard that shortly before I came to the

House, but it is far too narrow an engagement for us. And, Sir,

there is the more serious consideration--becoming more serious every

hour--there is the question of the neutrality of Belgium.

I shall have to put before the House at some length what is our

position in regard to Belgium. The governing factor is the Treaty

of 1839, but this is a treaty with a history--a history accumulated

since. In 1870, when there was war between France and Germany, the

question of the neutrality of Belgium arose, and various things were

said. Amongst other things, Prince Bismarck gave an assurance to

Belgium that, confirming his verbal assurance, he gave in writing a

declaration which he said was superfluous in reference to the treaty

in existence--that the German Confederation and its allies would

respect the neutrality of Belgium, it being always understood that

that neutrality would be respected by the other belligerent Powers.

That is valuable as a recognition in 1870 on the part of Germany of

the sacredness of these treaty rights.

What was our own attitude? The people who laid down the attitude of

the British Government were Lord Granville in the House of Lords, and

Mr. Gladstone in the House of Commons. Lord Granville, on the 8th of

August, 1870, used these words. He said:

We might have explained to the country and to foreign

nations that we did not think this country was bound

either morally or internationally, or that its interests were

concerned in the maintenance of the neutrality of Belgium.

Though this course might have had some conveniences,

though it might have been easy to adhere to it, though it

might have saved us from some immediate danger, it is

a course which Her Majesty's Government thought it impossible

to adopt in the name of the country with any due

regard to the country's honour or to the country's interests.

Mr. Gladstone spoke as follows two days later:

There is, I admit, the obligation of the treaty. It is

not necessary, nor would time permit me, to enter into the

complicated question of the nature of the obligations of

that treaty; but I am not able to subscribe to the doctrine

of those who have held in this House what plainly amounts

to an assertion, that the simple fact of the existence of

a guarantee is binding on every party to it, irrespectively

altogether of the particular position in which it may find

itself at the time when the occasion for acting on the guarantee

arises. The great authorities upon foreign policy to

whom I have been accustomed to listen, such as Lord

Aberdeen and Lord Palmerston, never to my knowledge

took that rigid and, if I may venture to say so, that impracticable

view of the guarantee. The circumstance that

there is already an existing guarantee in force is of necessity

an important fact, and a weighty element in the case to

which we are bound to give full and ample consideration.

There is also this further consideration, the force of which

we must all feel most deeply, and that is, the common

interests against the unmeasured aggrandizement of any

Power whatever.

The treaty is an old treaty--1839--and that was the view taken of it

in 1870. It is one of those treaties which are founded, not only on

consideration for Belgium, which benefits under the treaty, but in the

interests of those who guarantee the neutrality of Belgium. The honour

and interests are, at least, as strong to-day as in 1870, and

we cannot take a more narrow view or a lass serious view of our

obligations, and of the importance of those obligations than was taken

by Mr. Gladstone's Government in 1870.

I will read to the House what took place last week on this subject.

When mobilization was beginning, I knew that this question must be a

most important element in our policy--a most important subject for the

House of Commons. I telegraphed at the same time in similar terms to

both Paris and Berlin to say that it was essential for us to know

whether the French and German Governments respectively were prepared

to undertake an engagement to respect the neutrality of Belgium. These

are the replies. I got from the French Government this reply:

The French Government are resolved to respect the

neutrality of Belgium, and it would only be in the event

of some other Power violating that neutrality that France

might find herself under the necessity, in order to assure

the defence of her security, to act otherwise. This assurance

has been given several times. The President of the

Republic spoke of it to the King of the Belgians, and the

French Minister at Brussels has spontaneously renewed the

assurance to the Belgian Minister of Foreign Affairs to-day.

From the German Government the reply was:

The Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs could not

possibly give an answer before consulting the Emperor and

the Imperial Chancellor.

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