My Lords, you are aware that the Treaty of San Stefano was looked on

with much distrust and alarm by Her Majesty's Government--that they

believed it was calculated to bring about a state of affairs dangerous

to European independence, and injurious to the interests of the

British Empire. Our impeachment of that policy is before your

Lordships and the country, and is contained in the Circular of my

noble Friend the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs in April last.

Our present contention is that we can show that, by the changes and

modifications which have been made in the Treaty of San Stefano by the

Congress of Berlin and by the Convention of Constantinople, the menace

to European independence has been removed, and the threatened injury

to the British Empire has been averted. Your Lordships will recollect

that by the Treaty of San Stefano about one-half of Turkey in Europe

was formed into a State called Bulgaria--a State consisting of upwards

of 50,000 geographical square miles, and containing a population of

4,000,000, with harbours on either sea--both on the shores of the

Euxine and of the Archipelago. That disposition of territory severed

Constantinople and the limited district which was still spared to the

possessors of that city--severed it from the Provinces of Macedonia

and Thrace by Bulgaria descending to the very shores of the Aegean;

and, altogether, a State was formed, which, both from its natural

resources and its peculiarly favourable geographical position, must

necessarily have exercised a predominant influence over the political

and commercial interests of that part of the world. The remaining

portion of Turkey in Europe was reduced also to a considerable degree

by affording what was called compensation to previous rebellious

tributary Principalities, which have now become independent States--so

that the general result of the Treaty of San Stefano was, that while

it spared the authority of the Sultan so far as his capital and its

immediate vicinity, it reduced him to a state of subjection to the

Great Power which had defeated his Armies, and which was present at

the gates of his capital. Accordingly, though it might be said that

he still seemed to be invested with one of the highest functions

of public duty--the protection and custody of the Straits--it was

apparent that his authority in that respect could be exercised by him

only in deference to the superior Power which had vanquished him, and

to whom the proposed arrangements would have kept him in subjection.

My Lords, in these matters the Congress of Berlin have made great

changes. They have restored to the Sultan two-thirds of the territory

which was to have formed the great Bulgarian State. They have restored

to him upwards of 30,000 geographical square miles, and 2,500,000 of

population--that territory being the richest in the Balkans, where

most of the land is rich, and the population one of the wealthiest,

most ingenious, and most loyal of his subjects. The frontiers of his

State have been pushed forward from the mere environs of Salonica and

Adrianople to the lines of the Balkans and Trajan's Pass; the new

Principality, which was to exercise such an influence, and produce a

revolution in the disposition of the territory and policy of that part

of the globe is now merely a State in the Valley of the Danube, and

both in its extent and its population is reduced to one-third of what

was contemplated by the Treaty of San Stefano. My Lords, it has been

said that while the Congress of Berlin decided upon a policy so bold

as that of declaring the range of the Balkans as the frontier of what

may now be called New Turkey, they have, in fact, furnished it with

a frontier which, instead of being impregnable, is in some parts

undefended, and is altogether one of an inadequate character. My

Lords, it is very difficult to decide, so far as nature is concerned,

whether any combination of circumstances can ever be brought about

which would furnish what is called an impregnable frontier. Whether it

be river, desert, or mountainous range, it will be found, in the long

run, that the impregnability of a frontier must be supplied by the

vital spirit of man; and that it is by the courage, discipline,

patriotism, and devotion of a population that impregnable frontiers

can alone be formed. And, my Lords, when I remember what race of men

it was that created and defended Plevna, I must confess my confidence

that, if the cause be a good one, they will not easily find that the

frontier of the Balkans is indefensible. But it is said that although

the Congress has furnished--and it pretended to furnish nothing

more--a competent military frontier to Turkey, the disposition was so

ill managed, that, at the same time, it failed to secure an effective

barrier--that in devising the frontier, it so arranged matters that

this very line of the Balkans may be turned. The Congress has been

charged with having committed one of the greatest blunders that could

possibly have been accomplished by leaving Sofia in the possession of

a Power really independent of Turkey; and one which, in the course

of time, might become hostile to Turkey. My Lords, this is, in my

opinion, an error on the part of those who furnish information of

an authentic character to the different populations of Europe, who

naturally desire to have correct information on such matters. It is

said that the position of Sofia is of a commanding character, and that

of its value the Congress were not aware, and that it was yielded to

an imperious demand on the part of one of the Powers represented at

the Congress. My Lords, I can assure your Lordships that there is

not a shadow of truth in the statement. I shall show that when the

Congress resolved to establish the line of the Balkans as the frontier

of Turkey, they felt that there would have been no difficulty, as a

matter of course, in Turkey retaining the possession of Sofia. What

happened was this. The highest military authority of the Turks--so

I think I may describe him--was one of the Plenipotentiaries at the

Congress of the Porte--I allude to Mehemet Ali Pasha. Well, the moment

the line of the Balkans was spoken of, he brought under the notice of

his Colleagues at the Conference--and especially, I may say, of the

Plenipotentiaries of England--his views on the subject; and, speaking

as he did not only with military authority, but also with consummate

acquaintance with all these localities, he said nothing could be more

erroneous than the idea that Sofia was a strong strategical position,

and that those who possessed it would immediately turn the Balkans and

march on Constantinople. He said that as a strategical position it

was worthless, but that there was a position in the Sandjak of Sofia

which, if properly defended, might be regarded as impregnable, and

that was the Pass of Ichtiman. He thought it of vital importance to

the Sultan that that position should be secured to Turkey, as then His

Majesty would have an efficient defence to his capital.

That position was secured. It is a pass which, if properly defended,

will prevent any host, however powerful, from taking Constantinople

by turning the Balkans. But, in consequence of that arrangement, it

became the duty of the Plenipotentiaries to see what would be the

best arrangement in regard of Sofia and its immediate districts.

The population of Sofia and its district are, I believe, without

exception, Bulgarian, and it was thought wise, they being Bulgarians,

that, if possible, it should be included in Bulgaria. That was

accomplished by exchanging it for a district in which the population,

if not exclusively, are numerically, Mohammedan, and which, so far as

the fertility of the land is concerned, is an exchange highly to the

advantage of the Porte. That, my Lords, is a short account of an

arrangement which I know has for a month past given rise in Europe,

and especially in this country, to a belief that it was in deference

to Russia that Sofia was not retained, and that by its not having been

retained Turkey had lost the means of defending herself, in the event

of her being again plunged into war.

My Lords, it has also been said, with regard to the line of the

Balkans, that it was not merely in respect of the possession of Sofia

that an error was committed, but that the Congress made a great

mistake in not retaining Varna. My Lords, I know that there are

in this Assembly many Members who have recollections--glorious

recollections--of that locality. They will know at once that if the

line of the Balkans were established as the frontier, it would be

impossible to include Varna, which is to the North of the Balkans.

Varna itself is not a place of importance, and only became so in

connexion with a system of fortifications which are now to be razed.

No doubt, in connexion with a line of strongholds, Varna formed a

part of a system of defence; but of itself Varna is not a place of

importance. Of itself it is only a roadstead, and those who dwell upon

the importance of Varna and consider that it was a great error on the

part of the Congress not to have secured it for Turkey, quite forget

that between the Bosphorus and Varna, upon the coast of the Black Sea,

the Congress has allotted to Turkey a much more important point on the

Black Sea--the harbour of Burgos. My Lords, I think I have shown that

the charges made against the Congress on these three grounds--the

frontiers of the Balkans, the non-retention of Sofia, and the giving

up of Varna--have no foundation whatever.

Well, my Lords, having established the Balkans as the frontier of

Turkey in Europe, the Congress resolved that South of the Balkans,

to a certain extent, the country should be formed into a Province to

which should be given the name of Eastern Roumelia. At one time it was

proposed by some to call it South Bulgaria; but it was manifest that

with such a name between it and North Bulgaria there would be constant

intriguing to bring about a union between the two Provinces. We,

therefore, thought that the Province of East Roumelia should be

formed, and that there should be established in it a Government

somewhat different from that of contiguous provinces where the

authority of the Sultan might be more unlimited. I am not myself

of opinion that, as a general rule, it is wise to interfere with a

military Power which you acknowledge: but, though it might have been

erroneous, as a political principle, to limit the military authority

of the Sultan, yet there are in this world other things besides

political principles--there are such things as historical facts,

and he would not be a prudent statesman who did not take into

consideration historical facts as well as political principles. The

province which we have formed into Eastern Roumelia had been the scene

of many excesses, by parties on both sides, to which human nature

looks with deep regret; and it was thought advisable, in making these

arrangements for the peace of Europe, that we should take steps to

prevent the probable recurrence of such events. Yet to do this, and

not give the Sultan a direct military authority in the province, would

have been, in our opinion, a grievous error. We have, therefore,

decided that the Sultan should have the power to defend the barrier of

the Balkans with all his available force. He has power to defend his

frontiers by land and by sea, both by the passes of the mountains and

the ports and strongholds of the Black Sea. No limit has been placed

on the amount of force he may bring to bear with that object. No one

can dictate to him what the amount of that force shall be; but, in

respect to the interior and the internal government of the province,

we thought the time had arrived when we should endeavour to carry

into effect some of those important proposals intended for the better

administration of the States of the Sultan, which were discussed and

projected at the Conference of Constantinople.

My Lords, I will not enter into any minute details on these questions.

They might weary you at this moment, and I have several other matters

on which I must yet touch; but, generally speaking, I imagine there

are three great points which we shall have before us in any attempt to

improve the administration of Turkish Dominion. First of all, it

is most important--and we have so established it in Eastern

Roumelia--that the office of Governor shall be for a specific period,

and that, as in India, it should not be for less than five years.

If that system generally obtained in the dominions of the Sultan, I

believe it would be of incalculable benefit. Secondly, we thought it

desirable that there should be instituted public assemblies, in which

the popular element should be adequately represented, and that the

business of those assemblies should be to levy and administer the

local finances of the province. And, thirdly, we thought it equally

important that order should be maintained in this province, either by

a _gendarmerie_ of adequate force or by a local militia, in both cases

the officers holding their commissions from the Sultan. But the whole

subject of the administration of Eastern Roumelia has been referred to

an Imperial Commission at Constantinople, and this Commission, after

making its investigations, will submit recommendations to the Sultan,

who will issue Firmans to carry those recommendations into effect. I

may mention here--as it may save time--that in all the arrangements

which have been made to improve the condition of the subject-races

of Turkey in Europe, inquiry by local commissions in all cases where

investigation may be necessary is contemplated. Those commissions are

to report their results to the Chief Commission; and, after the Firman

of the Sultan has been issued, the changes will take place. It is

supposed that in the course of three months from the time of the

ratification of the Treaty of Berlin, the principal arrangements may

be effected.

My Lords, I may now state what has been effected by the Congress in

respect of Bosnia--that being a point on which I think considerable

error prevails. One of the most difficult matters we had to encounter

in attempting what was the object of the Congress of Berlin--namely,

to re-establish the Sultan as a real and substantial authority--was

the condition of some of his distant provinces, and especially of

Bosnia. The state of Bosnia, and of those provinces and principalities

contiguous to it, was one of chronic anarchy. There is no language

which can describe adequately the condition of that large portion

of the Balkan peninsula occupied by Roumania, Servia, Bosnia,

Herzegovina, and other provinces. Political intrigues, constant

rivalries, a total absence of all public spirit, and of the pursuit of

objects which patriotic minds would wish to accomplish, the hatred of

races, the animosities of rival religions, and, above all, the absence

of any controlling power that could keep these large districts in

anything like order--such were the sad truths, which no one who has

investigated the subject could resist for a moment. Hitherto--at

least until within the last two years--Turkey had some semblance of

authority which, though it was rarely adequate, and when adequate, was

unwisely exercised, still was an authority to which the injured could

appeal, and which sometimes might control violence. But the Turkey of

the present time was in no condition to exercise that authority. I

inquired into the matter of those most competent to give an opinion,

and the result of my investigation was a conviction that nothing short

of an army of 50,000 men of the best troops of Turkey would produce

anything like order in those parts, and that, were the attempt to

be made, it would be contested and resisted, and might finally be

defeated. But what was to be said at a time when all the statesmen of

Europe were attempting to concentrate and condense the resources of

the Porte with the view of strengthening them--what would have been

the position of the Porte if it had to commence its new career--a

career, it is to be hoped, of amelioration and tranquillity--by

dispatching a large army to Bosnia to deal with those elements of

difficulty and danger? It is quite clear, my Lords, that such an

effort at this moment by Turkey might bring about its absolute ruin.

Then what was to be done? There have been before, in the history of

diplomacy, not unfrequent instances in which, even in civilized parts

of the globe, States having fallen into decrepitude, have afforded no

assistance to keep order and tranquillity, and have become, as these

districts have become, a source of danger to their neighbours. Under

such circumstances, the Powers of Europe have generally looked to

see whether there was any neighbouring Power of a character entirely

different from those disturbed and desolated regions, but deeply

interested in their welfare and prosperity, who would undertake the

task of attempting to restore their tranquillity and prosperity. In

the present case, you will see that the position of Austria is one

that clearly indicates her as fitted to undertake such an office.

It is not the first time that Austria has occupied provinces at the

request of Europe to ensure that order and tranquillity, which are

European interests, might prevail in them. Not once, twice, or thrice

has Austria undertaken such an office. There may be differences of

opinion as to the policy on which Austria has acted, or as to the

principles of government which she has maintained; but that has

nothing to do with the fact that, under circumstances similar to

those which I have described as existing in Bosnia and the provinces

contiguous to it, Austria has been invited and has interfered in the

manner I have described, and has brought about order and tranquillity.

Austria, in the present case, was deeply interested that some

arrangement should be made. Austria, for now nearly three years, has

had upwards of 150,000 refugees from Bosnia, which have been supported

by her resources, and whose demands notoriously have been of a

vexatious and exhausting character. It was, therefore, thought

expedient by the Congress that Austria should be invited to occupy

Bosnia, and not to leave it until she had deeply laid the foundations

of tranquillity and order. My Lords, I am the last man who would wish,

when objections are made to our proceedings, to veil them under

the decision of the Congress; it was a decision which the

Plenipotentiaries of England highly approved. It was a proposal which,

as your Lordships will see when you refer to the Protocols which I

shall lay on the table to-night, was made by my noble friend the

Secretary of State, that Austria should accept this trust and fulfil

this duty; and I earnestly supported him on that occasion. My Lords,

in consequence of that arrangement, cries have been raised against

our 'partition of Turkey'. My Lords, our object has been directly the

reverse--our object has been to prevent partition. The question of

partition is one upon which, it appears to me, very erroneous ideas

are in circulation. Some two years ago--before, I think, the war had

commenced, but when the disquietude and dangers of the situation were

very generally felt--there was a school of statesmen who were highly

in favour of what they believed to be the only remedy--what they

called the partition of Turkey. Those who did not agree with them were

those who thought we should, on the whole, attempt the restoration

of Turkey. Her Majesty's Government at all times have resisted the

partition of Turkey. They have done so, because, exclusive of the high

moral considerations that are mixed up with the subject, they believed

an attempt, on a great scale, to accomplish the partition of Turkey

would inevitably lead to a long, a sanguinary, and often recurring

struggle, and that Europe and Asia would both be involved in a series

of troubles and sources of disaster and danger of which no adequate

idea could be formed.

These professors of partition--quite secure, no doubt, in their own

views--have freely spoken to us on this subject. We have been taken up

to a high mountain and shown all the kingdoms of the earth, and they

have said--'All these shall be yours if you will worship Partition.'

But we have declined to do so for the reasons I have shortly given.

And it is a remarkable circumstance that after the great war, and

after the prolonged diplomatic negotiations, which lasted during

nearly a period of three years, on this matter, the whole Powers of

Europe, including Russia, have strictly, and as completely as ever,

come to the unanimous conclusion that the best chance for the

tranquillity and order of the world is to retain the Sultan as part of

the acknowledged political system of Europe. My Lords, unquestionably

after a great war--and I call the late war a great war, because the

greatness of a war now must not be calculated by its duration, but by

the amount of the forces brought into the field, and where a million

of men have struggled for supremacy, as has been the case recently, I

call that a great war--but, I say, after a great war like this, it is

utterly impossible that you can have a settlement of any permanent

character without a redistribution of territory and considerable

changes. But that is not partition. My Lords, a country may have lost

provinces, but that is not partition. We know that not very long ago

a great country--one of the foremost countries of the world--lost

provinces; yet, is not France one of the Great Powers of the world,

and with a future--a commanding future? Austria herself has lost

provinces--more provinces even than Turkey, perhaps; even England has

lost provinces--the most precious possessions--the loss of which

every Englishman must deplore to this moment. We lost them from bad

government. Had the principles which now obtain between the metropolis

and her dependencies prevailed then, we should not, perhaps, have

lost those provinces, and the power of this Empire would have been

proportionally increased. It is perfectly true that the Sultan of

Turkey has lost provinces; it is true that his armies have been

defeated; it is true that his enemy is even now at his gates; but all

that has happened to other Powers. But a sovereign who has not yet

forfeited his capital, whose capital has not been occupied by his

enemy--and that capital one of the strongest in the world--who has

armies and fleets at his disposal, and who still rules over 20,000,000

of inhabitants, cannot be described as a Power whose Dominions have

been partitioned. My Lords, it has been said that no limit has been

fixed to the occupation of Bosnia by Austria. Well, I think that was a

very wise step. The moment you limit an occupation you deprive it of

half its virtue. All those opposed to the principles which occupation

was devised to foster and strengthen feel that they have only to hold

their breath and wait a certain time, and the opportunity for their

interference would again present itself. Therefore, I cannot agree

with the objection which is made to the arrangement with regard to the

occupation of Bosnia by Austria on the question of its duration.

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