The subject evidently presented itself to Plato in two different ways

at different times. Which of the two is earliest, we have no means of

deciding. The commentators, who favour generally the view taken in

the Gorgias, treat the Protagoras as a juvenile and erroneous

production: sometimes, with still less reason, they represent

Sokrates as arguing in that dialogue, from the principles of his

opponents, not from his own. For my part, without knowing whether the

Protagoras or the Gorgias is the earliest, I think the Protagoras an

equally finished composition, and I consider that the views which

Sokrates is made to propound in it, respecting pleasure and good, are

decidedly nearer to the truth.

[Side-note: Comparison and appreciation of the reasoning of

Sokrates in both dialogues.]

That in the list of pleasures there are some which it is proper to

avoid,--and in the list of pains, some which it is proper to accept

or invite--is a doctrine maintained by Sokrates alike in both the

dialogues. Why? Because some pleasures are good, others bad: some

pains bad, others good--says Sokrates in the Gorgias. The same too is

said by Sokrates in the Protagoras; but then, he there explains what

he means by the appellation. All pleasure (he there says), so far as

it goes, is good--all pain is bad. But there are some pleasures which

cannot be enjoyed without debarring us from greater pleasures or

entailing upon us greater pains: on that ground therefore, such

pleasures are bad. So again, there are some pains, the suffering

of which is a condition indispensable to our escaping greater pains,

or to our enjoying greater pleasures: such pains therefore are good.

Thus this apparent exception does not really contradict, but

confirms, the general doctrine--That there is no good but the

pleasurable, and the elimination of pain--and no evil except the

painful, or the privation of pleasure. Good and evil have no

reference except to pleasures and pains; but the terms imply, in each

particular case, an estimate and comparison of future pleasurable and

painful consequences, and express the result of such comparison. "You

call enjoyment itself evil" (says Sokrates in the Protagoras),[75]

"when it deprives us of greater pleasures or entails upon us greater

pains. If you have any other ground, or look to any other end, in

calling it evil, you may tell us what that end is; but you will not

be able to tell us. So too, you say that pain is a good, when it

relieves us from greater pains, or when it is necessary as the

antecedent cause of greater pleasures. If you have any other end in

view, when you call pain good, you may tell us what that end is; but

you will not be able to tell us."[76]

[Footnote 75: Plato, Protagoras,** p. 354 D. [Greek: e)pei/, ei) kat'

a)/llo ti au)to\ to\ chai/rein kako\n kalei=te kai\ ei)s a)/llo ti

te/los a)poble/psantes, e)/choite a)\n kai\ ê(mi=n ei)pei=n; a)ll'

ou)ch e(/xete. . . . e)pei\ ei) pro\s a)/llo ti te/los a)poble/pete,

o(/tan kalê=te au)to\ to\ lupei=sthai a)gatho/n, ê)\ pro\s o(\ e)gô\

le/gô, e)/chete ê(mi=n ei)pein; a)ll' ou)ch e(/xete.]]

[Footnote 76: In a remarkable passage of the De Legibus, Plato denies

all essential distinction between Good and Pleasure, and all reality

of Good apart from Pleasure (Legg. ii. pp. 662-663). [Greek: ei) d'

au)= to\n dikaio/taton eu)daimone/staton a)pophai/noito bi/on

ei)=nai, zêtoi= pou pa=s a)\n o( a)kou/ôn, oi)=mai, ti/ pot' e)n

au)tô=| to\ tê=s ê(donê=s krei=tton a)gatho/n te kai\ kalo\n o(

no/mos e)no\n e)painei=? ti/ ga\r dê\ dikai/ô| chôrizo/menon ê(donê=s

a)gatho\n a)\n ge/noito?]

Plato goes on to argue as follows: Even though it were not true, as I

affirm it to be, that the life of justice is a life of pleasure, and

the life of injustice a life of pain--still the law-giver must

proclaim this proposition as a useful falsehood, and compel every one

to chime in with it. Otherwise the youth will have no motive to just

conduct. For no one will willingly consent to obey any recommendation

from which he does not expect more pleasure than pain; [Greek:

ou)dei\s ga\r a)\n e(/kôn e)/theloi pei/thesthai pra/ttein tou=to

o(/, tô| mê\ to\ chai/rein tou= lupei=sthai ple/on e(/petai] (663

B).]

[Side-note: Distinct statement in the Protagoras. What are

good and evil, and upon what principles the scientific adviser is to

proceed in discriminating them. No such distinct statement in the

Gorgias.]

In the Gorgias, too, Sokrates declares that some pleasures are good,

others bad--some pains bad, others good. But here he stops. He does

not fulfil the reasonable demand urged by Sokrates in the Protagoras--"If

you make such a distinction, explain the ground on which you

make it, and the end to which you look". The distinction in the

Gorgias stands without any assigned ground or end to rest upon. And

this want is the more sensibly felt, when we read in the same

dialogue, that--"It is not every man who can distinguish the good

pleasures from the bad: a scientific man, proceeding on principle, is

needed for the purpose".[77] But upon what criterion is the

scientific man to proceed? Of what properties is he to take account,

in pronouncing one pleasure to be bad, another good--or one pain to

be bad and another good--the estimate of consequences, measured in

future pleasures and pains, being by the supposition excluded? No

information is given. The problem set to the scientific man is one of

which all the quantities are unknown. Now Sokrates in the

Protagoras[78] also lays it down, that a scientific or rational

calculation must be had, and a mind competent to such calculation

must be postulated, to decide which pleasures are bad or fit to be

rejected--which pains are good, or proper to be endured. But then he

clearly specifies the elements which alone are to be taken into the

calculation--_viz._, the future pleasures and pains accompanying

or dependent upon each with the estimate of their comparative

magnitude and durability. The theory of this calculation is clear and

intelligible: though in many particular cases, the data necessary for

making it, and the means of comparing them, may be very imperfectly

accessible.

[Footnote 77: Plato, Gorgias, p. 500 A. [Greek: A)=r' ou)=n panto\s

a)ndro/s** e)stin e)kle/xasthai poi=a a)/gatha\ tô=n ê(de/ôn

e)sti\ kai\ o(poi=a kaka/? ê)\ technikou= dei= ei)s e(/kaston?

Technikou=.]]

[Footnote 78: Plato, Protagoras, pp. 357 B, 356 E.]

[Side-note: Modern ethical theories. Intuition. Moral sense--not

recognised by Plato in either of the dialogues.]

According to various ethical theories, which have chiefly obtained

currency in modern times, the distinction--between pleasures good or

fit to be enjoyed, and pleasures bad or unfit to be enjoyed--is

determined for us by a moral sense or intuition: by a simple,

peculiar, sentiment of right and wrong, or a conscience, which

springs up within us ready-made, and decides on such matters without

appeal; so that a man has only to look into his own heart for a

solution. We need not take account of this hypothesis, in reviewing

Plato's philosophy: for he evidently does not proceed upon it. He

expressly affirms, in the Gorgias as well as in the Protagoras, that

the question is one requiring science or knowledge to determine it,

and upon which none but the man of science or _expert_

([Greek: techniko\s]) is a competent judge.

[Side-note: In both dialogues the doctrine of Sokrates is

self-regarding as respects the agent: not considering the pleasures

and pains of other persons, so far as affected by the agent.]

Moreover, there is another point common to both the two dialogues,

deserving of notice. I have already remarked when reviewing the

doctrine of Sokrates in the Protagoras, that it appears to me

seriously defective, inasmuch as it takes into account the pleasures

and pains of the agent only, and omits the pleasures and pains of

other persons affected by his conduct. But this is not less true

respecting the doctrine of Sokrates in the Gorgias: for whatever

criterion he may there have in his mind to determine which among our

pleasures are bad, it is certainly not this--that the agent in

procuring them is obliged to hurt others. For the example which

Sokrates cites as specially illustrating the class of bad

pleasures--_viz._, the pleasure of scratching an itching part of the

body[79]--is one in which no others besides the agent are concerned.

As in the Protagoras, so in the Gorgias--Plato in laying down his

rule of life, admits into the theory only what concerns the agent

himself, and makes no direct reference to the happiness of others as

affected by the agent's behaviour.

[Footnote 79: The Sokrates of the Protagoras would have reckoned this

among the bad pleasures, because the discomfort and distress of body

out of which it arises more than countervail the pleasure.]

[Side-note: Points wherein the doctrine of the two dialogues

is in substance the same, but differing in classification.]

There are however various points of analogy between the Protagoras

and the Gorgias, which will enable us, after tracing them out, to

measure the amount of substantial difference between them; I speak of

the reasoning of Sokrates in each. Thus, in the Protagoras,[80]

Sokrates ranks health, strength, preservation of the community,

wealth, command, &c., under the general head of Good things, but

expressly on the ground that they are the producing causes and

conditions of pleasures and of exemption from pains: he also ranks

sickness and poverty under the head of Evil things, as productive

causes of pain and suffering. In the Gorgias also, he numbers wisdom,

health, strength, perfection of body, riches, &c., among Good

things or profitable things[81]--(which two words he treats as

equivalent)--and their contraries as Evil things. Now he does

not expressly say here (as in the Protagoras) that these things are

_good_, because they are productive causes of pleasure or

exemption from pain: but such assumption must evidently be supplied

in order to make the reasoning valid. For upon what pretence can any

one pronounce strength, health, riches, to be _good_--and

helplessness, sickness, poverty, to be _evil_--if no reference

be admitted to pleasures and pains? Sokrates in the Gorgias[82]

declares that the pleasures of eating and drinking are good, in so

far as they impart health and strength to the body--evil, in so far

as they produce a contrary effect. Sokrates in the Protagoras reasons

in the same way--but with this difference--that he would count the

pleasure of the repast itself as one item of good: enhancing the

amount of good where the future consequences are beneficial,

diminishing the amount of evil where the future consequences are

Unfavourable: while Sokrates in the Gorgias excludes immediate

pleasure from the list of good things, and immediate pain from the

list of evil things.

[Footnote 80: Plato, Protagor. pp. 353 D, 354 A.]

[Footnote 81: Plato, Gorgias, pp. 467-468-499.]

[Footnote 82: Plato, Gorgias, p. 499 D.]

This last exclusion renders the theory in the Gorgias untenable and

inconsistent. If present pleasure be not admitted as an item of good

so far as it goes--then neither can the future and consequent

aggregates of pleasure, nor the causes of them, be admitted as good.

So likewise, if present pain be no evil, future pain cannot be

allowed to rank as an evil.[83]

[Footnote 83: Compare a passage in the Republic (ii. p. 357) where

Sokrates gives (or accepts, as given by Glaukon) a description of

Good much more coincident with the Protagoras than with the Gorgias.

The common property of all Good is to be desired or loved; and there

are three varieties of it--1. That which we desire for itself, and

for its own sake, apart from all ulterior consequences, such as

innocuous pleasures or enjoyments. 2. That which we desire both for

itself and for its ulterior consequences, such as good health, good

vision, good sense, &c. 3. That which we do not desire--nay,

which we perhaps hate or shun, _per se_: but which we

nevertheless desire and invite, in connection with and for the sake

of ulterior consequences: such as gymnastic training, medical

treatment when we are sick, labour in our trade or profession.

Here Plato admits the immediately pleasurable _per se_ as one

variety of good, always assuming that it is not countervailed by

consequences or accompaniments of a painful character. This is the

doctrine of the Protagoras, as distinguished from the Gorgias, where

Sokrates sets pleasure in marked opposition to good.]

[Side-note: Kalliklês, whom Sokrates refutes in the Gorgias,

maintains a different argument from that which Sokrates combats in

the Protagoras.]

Each of the two dialogues, which I am now comparing, is in truth an

independent composition: in each, Sokrates has a distinct argument to

combat; and in the latest of the two (whichever that was), no heed is

taken of the argumentation in the earlier. In the Protagoras, he

exalts the dignity and paramount force of knowledge or prudence: if a

man knows how to calculate pleasures and pains, he will be sure to

choose the result which involves the greater pleasure or the less

pain, on the whole: to say that he is overpowered by immediate

pleasure or pain into making a bad choice, is a wrong description--the

real fact being, that he is deficient in the proper knowledge how

to choose. In the Gorgias, the doctrine assigned to Kalliklês and

impugned by Sokrates is something very different. That justice,

temperance, self-restraint, are indeed indispensable to the happiness

of ordinary men; but if there be any one individual, so immensely

superior in force as to trample down and make slaves of the rest,

this one man would be a fool if he restrained himself: having the

means of gratifying all his appetites, the more appetites he has, the

more enjoyments will he have and the greater happiness.[84]

Observe--that Kalliklês applies this doctrine only to the one omnipotent

despot: to all other members of society, he maintains that

self-restraint is essential. This is the doctrine which Sokrates in the

Gorgias undertakes to refute, by denying community of nature between

the pleasurable and the good--between the painful and the evil.

[Footnote 84: Plato, Gorgias, p. 492 B.]

[Side-note: The refutation of Kalliklês by Sokrates in the

Gorgias, is unsuccessful--it is only so far successful as he adopts

unintentionally the doctrine of Sokrates in the Protagoras.]

To me his refutation appears altogether unsuccessful, and the

position upon which he rests it incorrect. The only parts of the

refutation really forcible, are those in which he unconsciously

relinquishes this position, and slides into the doctrine of the

Protagoras. Upon this latter doctrine, a refutation might be

grounded: you may show that even an omnipotent despot (regard for the

comfort of others being excluded by the hypothesis) will gain by

limiting the gratification of his appetites to-day so as not to spoil

his appetites of tomorrow. Even in his case, prudential restraint is

required, though his motives for it would be much less than in the

case of ordinary social men. But Good, as laid down by Plato in the

Gorgias, entirely disconnected from pleasure--and Evil, entirely

disconnected from pain--have no application to this supposed despot.

He has no desire for such Platonic Good--no aversion for such

Platonic Evil. His happiness is not diminished by missing the former

or incurring the latter. In fact, one of the cardinal principles of

Plato's ethical philosophy, which he frequently asserts both in this

dialogue and elsewhere,[85]--That every man desires Good, and acts

for the sake of obtaining Good, and avoiding Evil--becomes untrue, if

you conceive Good and Evil according to the Gorgias, as having no

reference to pleasure or the avoidance of pain: untrue, not merely in

regard to a despot under these exceptional conditions, but in regard

to the large majority of social men. They desire to obtain Good and

avoid Evil, in the sense of the Protagoras: but not in the sense of

the Gorgias.[86] Sokrates himself proclaims in this dialogue: "I and

philosophy stand opposed to Kalliklês and the Athenian public. What I

desire is, to reason consistently with myself." That is, to speak the

language of Sokrates in the Protagoras--"To me, Sokrates, the

consciousness of inconsistency with myself and of an unworthy

character, the loss of my own self-esteem and the pungency of my own

self-reproach, are the greatest of all pains: greater than those

which you, Kalliklês, and the Athenians generally, seek to avoid at

all price and urge me also to avoid at all price--poverty, political

nullity, exposure to false accusation, &c."[87] The noble

scheme of life, here recommended by Sokrates, may be correctly

described according to the theory of the Protagoras: without any

resort to the paradox of the Gorgias, that Good has no kindred or

reference to Pleasure, nor Evil to Pain.

[Footnote 85: Plato, Gorgias, pp. 467 C, 499 E.]

[Footnote 86: The reasoning of Plato in the Gorgias, respecting this

matter, rests upon an equivocal phrase. The Greek phrase [Greek: eu)=

pra/ttein] has two meanings; it means _recté agere_, to act

rightly; and it also means _felicem esse_, to be happy. There is

a corresponding double sense in [Greek: kakô=s pra/ttein]. Heindorf

has well noticed the fallacious reasoning founded by Plato on this

double sense. We read in the Gorgias, p. 507 C: [Greek: a)na/gkê to\n

sô/phrona, di/kaion o)/nta kai\ a)ndrei=on kai\ o(/sion, a)gatho\n

a)/ndra ei)=nai tele/ôs, to\n de\ a)gatho\n ei)= te kai\ kalô=s

pra/ttein a)\ a)\n pra/ttê|, to\n d' eu)= pra/ttonta maka/rio/n te

kai\ eu)dai/mona ei)=nai, to\n de\ ponêro\n kai\ kakô=s pra/ttonta

a)/thlion.] Upon which Heindorf remarks, citing a note of Routh, who

says, "Vix enim potest credi, Platonem duplici sensu verborum [Greek:

eu)= pra/ttein] ad argumentum probandum abuti voluisse, quæ fallacia

esset amphiboliæ". "Non meminerat" (says Heindorf) "vir doctus

ceteros in Platone locos, ubi eodem modo ex duplici illâ potestate

argumentatio ducitur, cujusmodi plura attulimus ad Charmidem, 42, p.

172 A." Heindorf observes, on the Charmidês l. c.: "Argumenti hujus

vim positam apparet in duplici dictionis [Greek: eu)= pra/ttein]

significatu: quum vulgo sit _felicem esse_, non _recté

facere_. Hoc aliaque ejusdem generis sæpius sic ansam præbuerunt

sophismatis magis quam justi syllogismi." Heindorf then refers to

analogous passages in Plato, Repub. i. p. 354 A: Alkib. i. p. 116 B,

p. 134 A. A similar fallacy is found in Aristotle, Politic. vii. i.

p. 1323, a. 17, b. 32--[Greek: a)/rista ga\r pra/ttein prosê/kei

tou\s a)/rista politeuome/nous--a)du/naton de\ kalô=s pra/ttein toi=s

mê\ ta\ kala\ pra/ttousin.] This fallacy is recognised and properly

commented on as a "logisches Wortspiel," by Bernays, in his

instructive volume, _Die** Dialoge des Aristoteles_, pp. 80-81

(Berlin, 1863).]

[Footnote 87: Plato, Gorgias, pp. 481 D, 482 B.]

[Side-note: Permanent elements--and transient elements--of

human agency--how each of them is appreciated in the two dialogues.]

Lastly I will compare the Protagoras and the Gorgias (meaning always,

the reasoning of Sokrates in each of them) under one more point of

view. How does each of them describe and distinguish the permanent

elements, and the transient elements, involved in human agency? What

function does each of them assign to the permanent element? The

distinction of these two is important in its ethical bearing. The

whole life both of the individual and of society consists of

successive moments of action or feeling. But each individual (and the

society as an aggregate of individuals) has within him embodied and

realised an element more or less permanent--an established character,

habits, dispositions, intellectual acquirements, &c.--a sort of

capital accumulated from the past. This permanent element is of

extreme importance. It stands to the transient element in the same

relation as the fixed capital of a trader or manufacturer to his

annual produce. The whole use and value of the fixed capital, of

which the skill and energy of the trader himself make an important

part, consists in the amount of produce which it will yield: but at

the same time the trader must keep it up in its condition of fixed

capital, in order to obtain such amount: he must set apart, and

abstain from devoting to immediate enjoyment, as much of the annual

produce as will suffice to maintain the fixed capital unimpaired--and

more, if he desires to improve his condition. The capital cannot be

commuted into interest; yet nevertheless its whole value depends

upon, and is measured by, the interest which it yields. Doubtless the

mere idea of possessing the capital is pleasurable to the possessor,

because he knows that it can and will be profitably employed, so long

as he chooses.

[Side-note: In the Protagoras.]

Now in the Protagoras, the permanent element is very pointedly

distinguished from the transient, and is called Knowledge--the

Science or Art of Calculation. Its function also is clearly

announced--to take comparative estimate and measurement of the

transient elements; which are stated to consist of pleasures and

pains, present and future--near and distant--certain and

uncertain--faint and strong. To these elements, manifold yet

commensurable, the calculation is to apply. "The safety of life"

(says Sokrates[88]) "resides in our keeping up this science or art

of calculation." No present enjoyment must be admitted, which would

impair it; no present pain must be shunned, which is essential to

uphold it. Yet the whole of its value resides in its application to

the comparison of the pleasures and pains.

[Footnote 88: Plato, Protag. p. 357 A. [Greek: e)peidê\ de\ ê(donê=s

te kai\ lu/pês e)n o)rthê=| tê=| ai(re/sei e)pha/nê ê(mi=n ê(

sôtêri/a tou= bi/ou ou)=sa, tou= te ple/onos kai\ e)lattonos kai\

mei/zonos kai\ smikrote/rou kai\ por)r(ôte/rô kai\ e)ggute/rô],

&c.]

[Side-note: In the Gorgias.]

In the Gorgias the same two elements are differently described, and

less clearly explained. The permanent is termed, Order, arrangement,

discipline, a lawful, just, and temperate, cast of mind (opposed to

the doctrine ascribed to Kalliklês, which negatived this element

altogether, in the mind of the despot), parallel to health and

strength of body: the unordered mind is again the parallel of the

corrupt, distempered, helpless, body; life is not worth having until

this is cured.[89] This corresponds to the knowledge or Calculating

Science in the Protagoras; but we cannot understand what its function

is, in the Gorgias, because the calculable elements are incompletely

enumerated.

[Footnote 89: Plato, Gorgias, pp. 504 B-C, 506 D-E.

[Greek: Ta/xis--ko/smos--psuchê\ kosmi/a a)mei/nôn tou= a)kosmê/tou.]]

In the Protagoras, these calculable elements are two-fold--immediate

pleasures and pains--and future or distant pleasures and pains.

Between these two there is intercommunity of nature, so that they are

quite commensurable; and the function of the calculating reason is,

to make a right estimate of the one against the other.[90] But in the

Gorgias, no mention is made of future or distant pleasures and pains:

the calculable element is represented only by immediate pleasure or

pain--and from thence we pass at once to the permanent calculator--the

mind, sound or corrupt. You must abstain from a particular

enjoyment, because it will taint the soundness of your mind:

this is a pertinent reason (and would be admitted as such by Sokrates

in the Protagoras, who instead of sound mind would say, calculating

intelligence), but it is neither the ultimate reason (since this

soundness of mind is itself valuable with a view to future

calculations), nor the only reason: for you must also abstain, if it

will bring upon yourself (or upon others) preponderating pains in the

particular case--if the future pains would preponderate over the

present pleasure. Of this last calculation no notice is taken in the

Gorgias: which exhibits only the antithesis (not merely marked but

even over-done[91]) between the immediate pleasure or pain and the

calculating efficacy of mind, but leaves out the true function which

gives value to the sound mind as distinguished from the unsound and

corrupt. That function consists in its application to particular

cases: in right dealing with actual life, as regards the agent

himself and others: in [Greek: e)nergei/a], as distinguished from

[Greek: e(/xis], to use Aristotelian language.[92] I am far from

supposing that this part of the case was absent from Plato's mind.

But the theory laid out in the Gorgias (as compared with that in the

Protagoras) leaves no room for it; giving exclusive prominence to the

other elements, and acknowledging only the present pleasure or pain,

to be set against the permanent condition of mind, bad or good as it

may be.

[Footnote 90: There would be also the like intercommunity of nature,

if along with the pains and pleasures of the agent himself (which

alone are regarded in the calculation of Sokrates in the Protagoras)

you admit into the calculation the pleasures and pains of others

concerned, and the rules established with a view to both the two

together with a view to the joint interest both of the agent and of

others.]

[Footnote 91: Epikurus and his followers assigned the greatest value,

in their ethical theory, to the permanent element, or established

character of the agent, intellectual and emotional. But great as they

reckoned this value to be, they resolved it all into the diminution

or mitigation of pains, and, in a certain though inferior degree, the

multiplication of pleasures. They did not put it in a separate

category of its own, altogether disparate and foreign to pleasures

and pains.

See the letter of Epikurus to Menoekeus, Diog. L. x. 128-132;

Lucretius, v. 18-45, vi. 12-25; Horat. Epist. i. 2, 48-60.]

[Footnote 92: Aristot. Ethic. Nikom. i. 7. The remark of Aristotle in

the same treatise, i. 5--[Greek: dokei= ga\r e)nde/chesthai kai\

katheu/dein e)/chonta tê\n a)retê/n, ê)\ a)praktei=n dia\ bi/ou]--might

be applied to the theory of the Gorgias. Compare also Ethic.

Nik. vii. 3 (vii. 4, p. 1146, b. 31, p. 1147, a. 12).]

[Side-note: Character of the Gorgias generally--discrediting

all the actualities of life.]

Indeed there is nothing more remarkable in the Gorgias, than the

manner in which Sokrates not only condemns the unmeasured,

exorbitant, maleficent desires, but also depreciates and degrades all

the actualities of life--all the recreative and elegant arts,

including music and poetry, tragic as well as dithyrambic--all

provision for the most essential wants, all protection against

particular sufferings and dangers, even all service rendered to

another person in the way of relief or of rescue[93]--all the

effective maintenance of public organised force, such as ships,

docks, walls, arms, &c. Immediate satisfaction or relief, and

those who confer it, are treated with contempt, and presented as in

hostility to the perfection of the mental structure. And it is in

this point of view that various Platonic commentators extol in an

especial manner the Gorgias: as recognising an Idea of Good

superhuman and supernatural, radically disparate from pleasures and

pains of any human being, and incommensurable with them: an Universal

Idea, which, though it is supposed to cast a distant light upon

its particulars, is separated from them by an incalculable space, and

is discernible only by the Platonic telescope.

[Footnote 93: Plato, Gorgias, pp. 501-502-511-512-517-519. [Greek:

a)/neu ga\r dikaiosu/nês kai\ sôphrosu/nês lime/nôn kai\ neôri/ôn

kai\ teichô=n kai\ pho/rôn kai\ toiou/tôn phluariô=n e)mpeplê/kasi

tê\n po/lin.]

This is applied to the provision of food, drink, clothing, bedding,

for the hunger, thirst, &c., of the community (p. 517 D), to the

saving of life (p. 511 D). The boatman between Ægina and Peiræus

(says Plato) brings over his passengers in safety, together with

their families and property, preserving them from all the dangers of

the sea. The engineer, who constructs good fortifications, preserves

from danger and destruction all the citizens with their families and

their property (p. 512 B). But neither of these persons takes credit

for this service: because both of them know that it is doubtful

whether they have done any real service to the persons preserved,

since they have not rendered them any better; and that it is even

doubtful whether they may not have done them an actual mischief.

Perhaps these persons may be wicked and corrupt; in that case it is a

misfortune to them that their lives should be prolonged; it would be

better for them to die. It is under this conviction (says Plato) that

the boatman and the engineer, though they do preserve our lives, take

to themselves no credit for it.

We shall hardly find any greater rhetorical exaggeration than this,

among all the compositions of the rhetors against whom Plato declares

war in the Gorgias. Moreover, it is a specimen of the way in which

Plato colours and misinterprets the facts of social life, in order to

serve the purpose of the argument of the moment. He says truly that

when the passage boat from Ægina to Peiræus has reached its

destination, the steersman receives his fare and walks about on the

shore, without taking any great credit to himself, as if he had

performed a brilliant deed or conferred an important service. But how

does Plato explain this? By supposing in the steersman's mind

feelings which never enter into the mind of a real agent; feelings

which are put into words only when a moralist or a satirist is

anxious to enforce a sentiment. The service which the steersman

performs is not only adequately remunerated, but is, on most days, a

regular and easy one, such as every man who has gone through a decent

apprenticeship can perform. But suppose an exceptional day--suppose a

sudden and terrible storm to supervene on the passage--suppose the

boat full of passengers, with every prospect of all on board being

drowned--suppose she is only saved by the extraordinary skill,

vigilance, and efforts of the steersman. In that case he will, on

reaching the land, walk about full of elate self-congratulation and

pride: the passengers will encourage this sentiment by expressions of

the deepest gratitude; while friends as well as competitors will

praise his successful exploit. How many of the passengers there are

for whom the preservation of life may be a curse rather than a

blessing--is a question which neither they themselves, nor the

steersman, nor the public, will ever dream of asking.]

* * * * *

[Side-note: Argument of Sokrates resumed--multifarious arts of

flattery, aiming at immediate pleasure.]

We have now established (continues Sokrates) that pleasure is

essentially different from good, and pain from evil: also, that to

obtain good and avoid evil, a scientific choice is required--while to

obtain pleasure and avoid pain, is nothing more than blind imitation

or irrational knack. There are some arts and pursuits which aim only

at procuring immediate pleasure--others which aim at attaining good

or the best;[94] some arts, for a single person,--others for a

multitude. Arts and pursuits which aim only at immediate pleasure,

either of one or of a multitude, belong to the general head of

Flattery. Among them are all the musical, choric, and dithyrambic

representations at the festivals--tragedy as well as comedy--also

political and judicial rhetoric. None of these arts aim at any thing

except to gratify the public to whom they are addressed: none of them

aim at the permanent good: none seek to better the character of the

public. They adapt themselves to the prevalent desires: but whether

those desires are such as, if realised, will make the public worse or

better, they never enquire.[95]

[Footnote 94: The Sokrates of the Protagoras would have admitted a

twofold distinction of aims, but would have stated the distinction

otherwise. Two things (he would say) may be looked at in regard to

any course of conduct: first, the immediate pleasure or pain which it

yields; secondly, this item, not alone, but combined with all the

other pleasures and pains which can be foreseen as its conditions,

consequences, or concomitants. To obey the desire of immediate

pleasure, or the fear of immediate pain, requires no science; to

foresee, estimate, and compare the consequences, requires a

scientific calculation often very difficult and complicated--a

[Greek: te/chnê] or [Greek: e)pistê/mê metrêtikê/].

Thus we are told not only in what cases the calculation is required,

but what are the elements to be taken into the calculation. In the

Gorgias, we are not told on what elements the calculation of good and

evil is to be based: we are told that there _must be science_,

but we learn nothing more.]

[Footnote 95: Plato, Gorgias, pp. 502-503.]

[Side-note: The Rhetors aim at only flattering the public--even

the best past Rhetors have done nothing else--citation of the

four great Rhetors by Kallikles.]

_Sokr._--Do you know any public speakers who aim at anything

more than gratifying the public, or who care to make the public

better? _Kall._--There are some who do, and others who do not.

_Sokr._--Which are those who do? and which of them has ever made

the public better?[96] _Kall._--At any rate, former

statesmen did so; such as Miltiades, Themistokles, Kimon, Perikles.

_Sokr._--None of them. If they had, you would have seen them

devoting themselves systematically and obviously to their one end. As

a builder labours to construct a ship or a house, by putting together

its various parts with order and symmetry--so these statesmen would

have laboured to implant order and symmetry in the minds and bodies

of the citizens: that is, justice and temperance in their minds,

health and strength in their bodies.[97] Unless the statesman can do

this, it is fruitless to supply the wants, to fulfil the desires and

requirements, to uphold or enlarge the power, of the citizens. This

is like supplying ample nourishment to a distempered body: the more

such a body takes in, the worse it becomes. The citizens must be

treated with refusal of their wishes and with punishment, until their

vices are healed, and they become good.[98]

[Footnote 96: Plato, Gorgias, p. 503 C.]

[Footnote 97: Plato, Gorgias, p. 504 D.]

[Footnote 98: Plato, Gorgias, p. 505 B.]

[Side-note: Necessity for temperance, regulation, order. This

is the condition of virtue and happiness.]

We ought to do (continues Sokrates) what is pleasing for the sake of

what is good: not _vice versà_. But every thing becomes good by

possessing its appropriate virtue or regulation. The regulation

appropriate to the mind is to be temperate. The temperate man will do

what is just--his duty towards men: and what is holy--his duty

towards the Gods. He will be just and holy. He will therefore also be

courageous: for he will seek only such pleasures as duty permits, and

he will endure all such pains as duty requires. Being thus temperate,

just, brave, holy, he will be a perfectly good man, doing well and

honourably throughout. The man who does well, will be happy: the man

who does ill and is wicked, will be miserable.[99] It ought to be our

principal aim, both for ourselves individually and for the city, to

attain temperance and to keep clear of intemperance: not to let our

desires run immoderately (as you, Kallikles, advise), and then seek

repletion for them: which is an endless mischief, the life of a

pirate. He who pursues this plan can neither be the friend of any

other man, nor of the Gods: for he is incapable of communion, and

therefore of friendship.[100]

[Footnote 99: Plato, Gorgias, p, 507 D (with Routh and Heindorf's

notes).]

[Footnote 100: Plato, Gorgias, p. 507 E. [Greek: koinônei=n ga\r

a)du/natos; o(/tô| de\ mê\ e(/ni koinôni/a, phili/a ou)k a)\n

ei)/ê.]]

[Side-note: Impossible to succeed in public life, unless

a man be thoroughly akin to and in harmony with the ruling force.]

Now, Kallikles (pursues Sokrates), you have reproached me with

standing aloof from public life in order to pursue philosophy. You

tell me that by not cultivating public speaking and public action, I

am at the mercy of any one who chooses to accuse me unjustly and to

bring upon me severe penalties. But I tell you, that it is a greater

evil to do wrong than to suffer wrong; and that my first business is,

to provide for myself such power and such skill as shall guard me

against doing wrong.[101] Next, as to suffering wrong, there is only

one way of taking precautions against it. You must yourself rule in

the city: or you must be a friend of the ruling power. Like is the

friend of like:[102] a cruel despot on the throne will hate and

destroy any one who is better than himself, and will despise any one

worse than himself. The only person who will have influence is, one

of the same dispositions as the despot: not only submitting to him

with good will, but praising and blaming the same things as he

does--accustomed from youth upwards to share in his preferences and

aversions, and assimilated to him as much as possible.[103] Now if

the despot be a wrong-doer, he who likens himself to the despot will

become a wrong-doer also. And thus, in taking precautions against

suffering wrong, he will incur the still greater mischief and

corruption of doing wrong, and will be worse off instead of better.

[Footnote 101: Plato, Gorgias, p. 509 C. Compare Leges, viii. 829 A,

where [Greek: to\ mê\ a)dikei=n] is described as easy of attainment;

[Greek: to\ mê\ a)dikei=sthai], as being [Greek: pagcha/lepon]: and

both equally necessary [Greek: pro\s to\ eu)daimo/nôs zê=|n].]

[Footnote 102: Plat. Gorg. 510 B. [Greek: phi/los--o( o(/moios tô=|

o(moi/ô|]. We have already seen this principle discussed and rejected

in the Lysis, p. 214. See above, ch. xx., p. 179.]

[Footnote 103: Plato, Gorgias, p. 510 C. [Greek: lei/petai dê\

e)kei=nos mo/nos a)/xios lo/gou phi/los tô=| toiou/tô|, o(\s a)\n,

o(moê/thês ô)/n, tau)ta\ pse/gôn kai\ e)painô=n, e)the/lê|

a)/rchesthai kai\ u(pokei=sthai tô=| a)/rchonti. Ou(=tos me/ga e)n

tau/tê| tê=| po/lei dunê/setai, tou=ton ou)dei\s chai/rôn a)dikê/sei.

. . . Au(/tê o(do/s e)stin, eu)thu\s e)k ve/ou e)thi/zein au)to\n toi=s

au)toi=s chai/rein kai\ a)/chthesthtai tô=| despo/tê|, kai\

paraskeua/zein o(/pôs o(/ ti ma/lista o(/moios e)/stai e)kei/nô|.]]

[Side-note: Danger of one who dissents from the public, either

for better or for worse.]

_Kall._--But if he does not liken himself to the despot, the

despot may put him to death, if he chooses? _Sokr._--Perhaps he

may: but it will be death inflicted by a bad man upon a good

man.[104] To prolong life is not the foremost consideration, but to

decide by rational thought what is the best way of passing that

length of life which the Fates allot.[105] Is it my best plan to do

as you recommend, and to liken myself as much as possible to the

Athenian people--in order that I may become popular and may acquire

power in the city? For it will be impossible for you to acquire power

in the city, if you dissent from the prevalent political character

and practice, be it for the better or for the worse. Even imitation

will not be sufficient: you must be, by natural disposition,

homogeneous with the Athenians, if you intend to acquire much favour

with them. Whoever makes you most like to them, will help you forward

most towards becoming an effective statesman and speaker: for every

assembly delight in speeches suited to their own dispositions, and

reject speeches of an opposite tenor.[106]

[Footnote 104: Plato, Gorgias, p. 511 B.]

[Footnote 105: Plato, Gorgias, pp. 511 B, 512 E.]

[Footnote 106: Plato, Gorgias, p. 513 A. [Greek: kai\ nu=n de\ a)/ra

dei= se ô(s o(moio/taton gi/gnesthai tô=| dêmô| tô=| A)thênai/ôn, ei)

me/lleis tou/tô| prosphilê\s ei)=nai kai\ me/ga du/nasthai e)n tê=|

po/lei. . . . ei) de/ soi oi)/ei o(ntinou=n a)nthrô/pôn paradô/sein

te/chnên tina\ toiau/tên, ê(/ ti/s se poiê/sei me/ga du/nasthai e)n

tê=| po/lei tê=|de, _a)no/moion o)/nta tê=| politei/a| ei)/t' e)pi\

to\ be/ltion ei)/t' e)pi\ to\ chei=ron_, ou)k o)rthô=s bouleu/ei;

ou) ga\r mimêtê\n dei= ei)=nai, a)ll' au)tophuô=s o(/moion toou/tois,

ei) me/lleis ti gnê/sion a)perga/zesthai ei)s phili/an tô=|

A)thênai/ôn dê/mô|.]]

[Side-note: Sokrates resolves upon a scheme of life for

himself--to study permanent good, and not immediate satisfaction.]

Such are the essential conditions of political success and

popularity. But I, Kalliklês, have already distinguished two schemes

of life; one aiming at pleasure, the other aiming at good: one, that

of the statesman who studies the felt wants, wishes, and impulses of

the people, displaying his genius in providing for them effective

satisfaction--the other, the statesman who makes it his chief or sole

object to amend the character and disposition of the people. The last

scheme is the only one which I approve: and if it be that to which

you invite me, we must examine whether either you, Kallikles, or I,

have ever yet succeeded in amending or improving the character of any

individuals privately, before we undertake the task of amending the

citizens collectively.[107] None of the past statesmen whom you

extol, Miltiades, Kimon, Themistokles, Perikles, has produced any

such amendment.[108] Considered as ministers, indeed, they were

skilful and effective; better than the present statesmen. They were

successful in furnishing satisfaction to the prevalent wants and

desires of the citizens: they provided docks, walls, ships, tribute,

and other such follies, abundantly:[109] but they did nothing to

amend the character of the people--to transfer the desires of the

people from worse things to better things--or to create in them

justice and temperance. They thus did no real good by feeding the

desires of the people: no more good than would be done by a skilful

cook for a sick man, in cooking for him a sumptuous meal before the

physician had cured him.

[Footnote 107: Plato, Gorgias, p. 515 A.]

[Footnote 108: Plato, Gorgias, pp. 516, 517.]

[Footnote 109: Plato, Gorgias, pp. 517, 519. [Greek: a)/neu ga\r

sôphrosu/nês kai\ dikaiosu/nês lime/nôn kai\ neôri/ôn kai\ teichô=n

kai\ pho/rôn kai\ toiou/tôn phluariô=n e)mpeplê/kasi tê\n po/lin.]]

[Side-note: Sokrates announces himself as almost the only man

at Athens, who follows out the true political art. Danger of doing

this.]

I believe myself (continues Sokrates) to be the only man in Athens,--or

certainly one among a very few,--who am a true statesman,

following out the genuine purposes of the political art.[110] I aim

at what is best for the people, not at what is most agreeable. I do

not value those captivating accomplishments which tell in the

Dikastery. If I am tried, I shall be like a physician arraigned by

the confectioner before a jury of children. I shall not be able to

refer to any pleasures provided for them by me: pleasures which

_they_ call benefits, but which I regard as worthless. If any

one accuses me of corrupting the youth by making them sceptical, or

of libelling the older men in my private and public talk--it will be

in vain for me to justify myself by saying the real truth.--Dikasts,

I do and say all these things justly, for your real benefit. I shall

not be believed when I say this, and I have nothing else to say: so

that I do not know what sentence may be passed on me.[111] My only

refuge and defence will be, the innocence of my life. As for death,

no one except a fool or a coward fears _that_: the real evil,

and the greatest of all evils, is to pass into Hades with a corrupt

and polluted mind.[112]

[Footnote 110: Plato, Gorgias, p. 521 D.]

[Footnote 111: Plato, Gorgias, pp. 521-522.]

[Footnote 112: Plato, Gorgias, p. 522 E. [Greek: au)to\ me\n ga\r to\

a)pothnê/skein ou)dei\s phobei=tai, o(/stis mê\ panta/pasin

a)lo/gisto/s te kai\ a)/nandro/s e)sti, to\ de\ a)dikei=n

phobei=tai], &c.

]

[Side-note: Mythe respecting Hades, and the treatment of

deceased persons therein, according to their merits during life--the

philosopher who stood aloof from public affairs, will then be

rewarded.]

Sokrates then winds up the dialogue, by reciting a [Greek: Ne/kuia],

a mythe or hypothesis about judgment in Hades after death, and

rewards and punishments to be apportioned to deceased men, according

to their merits during life, by Rhadamanthus and Minos. The greatest

sufferers by these judgments (he says) will be the kings, despots,

and men politically powerful, who have during their lives committed

the greatest injustices,--which indeed few of them avoid.[113]

The man most likely to fare well and to be rewarded, will be the

philosopher, "who has passed through life minding his own business,

and not meddling with the affairs of others".[114]

[Footnote 113: Plato, Gorgias, pp. 525-526.]

[Footnote 114: Plato, Gorgias, p. 526 C. [Greek: philoso/phou ta\

au)tou= pra/xantos, kai\ ou) polupragmonê/santos e)n tô=| bi/ô|.]

It must be confessed that these terms do not correspond to the life

of Sokrates, as he himself describes it in the Platonic Apology. He

seems to have fancied that no one was [Greek: polupra/gmôn] except

those who spoke habitually in the Ekklesia and the Dikastery.]

* * * * *

[Side-note: Peculiar ethical views of Sokrates--Rhetorical or

dogmatical character of the Gorgias.]

"Dicuntur ista magnifice,"[115]--we may exclaim, in Ciceronian words,

on reaching the close of the Gorgias. It is pre-eminently solemn and

impressive; all the more so, from the emphasis of Sokrates, when

proclaiming the isolation in which he stands at Athens, and the

contradiction between his ethico-political views and those of his

fellow-citizens. In this respect it harmonises with the Apology, the

Kriton, Republic, and Leges: in all which, the peculiarity of his

ethical points of view stands proclaimed--especially in the Kriton,

where he declares that his difference with his opponents is

fundamental, and that there can be between them no common ground for

debate--nothing but reciprocal contempt.[116]

[Footnote 115: Cicero, De Finib. iii. 3, 11.]

[Footnote 116: Plato, Kriton, p. 49 D.]

[Side-note: He merges politics in Ethics--he conceives the

rulers as spiritual teachers and trainers of the community.]

The argument of Sokrates in the Gorgias is interesting, not merely as

extolling the value of ethical self-restraint, but also as

considering political phenomena under this point of view: that is,

merging politics in ethics. The proper and paramount function of

statesmen (we find it eloquently proclaimed) is to serve as spiritual

teachers in the community: for the purpose of amending the lives and

characters of the citizens, and of converting them from bad

dispositions to good. We are admonished that until this is effected,

more is lost than gained by realising the actual wants and wishes of

the community, which are disorderly and distempered: like the state

of a sick man, who would receive harm and not benefit from a

sumptuous banquet.

[Side-note: _Idéal_ of Plato--a despotic lawgiver or

man-trainer, on scientific principles, fashioning all characters

pursuant to certain types of his own.]

This is the conception of Plato in the Gorgias, speaking through the

person of Sokrates, respecting the ends for which the political

magistrate ought to employ his power. The magistrate, as

administering law and justice, is to the minds of the community what

the trainer and the physician are to their bodies: he produces

goodness of mind, as the two latter produce health and strength of

body. The Platonic _idéal_ is that of a despotic law-giver and

man-trainer, wielding the compulsory force of the secular arm for

what he believes to be spiritual improvement. However instructive it

is to study the manner in which a mind like that of Plato works out

such a purpose in theory, there is no reason for regret that he never

had an opportunity of carrying it into practice. The manner in which

he always keeps in view the standing mental character, as an object

of capital importance to be attended to, and as the analogon of

health in the body--deserves all esteem. But when he assumes the

sceptre of King Nomos (as in Republic and Leges) to fix by

unchangeable authority what shall be the orthodox type of character,

and to suppress all the varieties of emotion and intellect, except

such as will run into a few predetermined moulds--he oversteps all

the reasonable aims and boundaries of the political office.

[Side-note: Platonic analogy between mental goodness and

bodily health--incomplete analogy--circumstances of difference.]

Plato forgets two important points of difference, in that favourite

and very instructive analogy which he perpetually reproduces, between

mental goodness and bodily health. First, good health and strength of

the body (as I have observed already) are states which every man

knows when he has got them. Though there is much doubt and dispute

about causes, preservative, destructive, and restorative, there is

none about the present fact. Every sick man derives from his own

sensations an anxiety to get well. But virtue is not a point thus

fixed, undisputed, indubitable: it is differently conceived by

different persons, and must first be discovered and settled by a

process of enquiry; the Platonic Sokrates himself, in many of the

dialogues--after declaring that neither he nor any one else

within his knowledge, knows what it is--tries to find it out without

success. Next, the physician, who is the person actively concerned in

imparting health and strength, exercises no coercive power over any

one: those who consult him have the option whether they will follow

the advice given, or not. To put himself upon the same footing with

the physician, the political magistrate ought to confine himself to

the function of advice; a function highly useful, but in which he

will be called upon to meet argumentative opposition, and frequent

failure, together with the mortification of leaving those whom he

cannot convince, to follow their own mode of life. Here are two

material differences, modifying the applicability of that very

analogy on which Plato so frequently rests his proof.

[Side-note: Sokrates in the Gorgias speaks like a dissenter

among a community of fixed opinions and habits. Impossible that a

dissenter, on important points, should acquire any public influence.]

In Plato's two imaginary commonwealths, where he is himself despotic

law-giver, there would have been no tolerable existence possible for

any one not shaped upon the Platonic spiritual model. But in the

Gorgias, Plato (speaking in the person of Sokrates) is called upon to

define his plan of life in a free state, where he was merely a

private citizen. Sokrates receives from Kallikles the advice, to

forego philosophy and to aspire to the influence and celebrity of an

active public speaker. His reply is instructive, as revealing the

interior workings of every political society. No man (he says) can

find favour as an adviser--either of a despot, where there is one, or

of a people where there is free government--unless he be in harmony

with the sentiments and ideas prevalent, either with the ruling Many

or the ruling One. He must be moulded, from youth upwards, on the

same spiritual pattern as they are:[117] his love and hate, his

praise and blame, must turn towards the same things: he must have the

same tastes, the same morality, the same _idéal_, as theirs: he

must be no imitator, but a chip of the same block. If he be either

better than they or worse than they,[118] he will fail in acquiring

popularity, and his efforts as a competitor for public influence

will be not only abortive, but perhaps dangerous to himself.

[Footnote 117: Plato, Gorgias, p. 510 C-D. [Greek: o(moê/thês ô)/n,

tau)ta\ pse/gôn kai\ e)painô=n tô=| a)/rchonti. . . . eu)thu\s e)k

ne/ou e)thi/zein au(to\n toi=s au)toi=s chai/rein kai\ a)/chthesthai

tô=| despo/tê|, kai\ paraskeua/zein o(/pôs o(/ ti ma/lista o(/moios

e)/stai e)kei/nô|.] 513 B: [Greek: ou) mimêtê\n dei= ei)=nai a)ll'

au)tophuô=s o(/moion tou/tois.]]

[Footnote 118: Plato, Gorgias, p. 513 A. [Greek: ei)/t' e)pi\ to\

be/ltion ei)/t' e)pi\ to\ chei=ron.]]

[Side-note: Sokrates feels his own isolation from his

countrymen. He is thrown upon individual speculation and dialectic.]

The reasons which Sokrates gives here (as well as in the Apology, and

partly also in the Republic) for not embarking in the competition of

political aspirants, are of very general application. He is an

innovator in religion; and a dissenter from the received ethics,

politics, social sentiment, and estimate of life and conduct.[119]

Whoever dissents upon these matters from the governing force (in

whatever hands that may happen to reside) has no chance of being

listened to as a political counsellor, and may think himself

fortunate if he escapes without personal hurt or loss. Whether his

dissent be for the better or for the worse, is a matter of little

moment: the ruling body always think it worse, and the consequences

to the dissenter are the same.

[Footnote 119: Plato, Gorgias, p. 522 B; Theætêtus, p. 179; Menon, p.

79.]

[Side-note: Antithesis between philosophy and rhetoric.]

Herein consists the real antithesis between Sokrates, Plato, and

philosophy, on the one side--Perikles, Nikias, Kleon, Demosthenes,

and rhetoric, on the other. "You," (says Sokrates to Kalliklês),[120]

"are in love with the Athenian people, and take up or renounce such

opinions as they approve or discountenance: I am in love with

philosophy, and follow her guidance. You and other active politicians

do not wish to have more than a smattering of philosophy; you are

afraid of becoming unconsciously corrupted, if you carry it beyond

such elementary stage."[121] Each of these orators, discussing

political measures before the public assembly, appealed to general

maxims borrowed from the received creed of morality, religion, taste,

politics, &c. His success depended mainly on the emphasis which

his eloquence could lend to such maxims, and on the skill with which

he could apply them to the case in hand. But Sokrates could not

follow such an example. Anxious in his research after truth, he

applied the test of analysis to the prevalent opinions--found them,

in his judgment, neither consistent nor rational--constrained many

persons to feel this, by an humiliating cross-examination--but became

disqualified from addressing, with any chance of assent, the

assembled public.

[Footnote 120: Plato, Gorgias, p, 481 E.]

[Footnote 121: Plato, Gorgias, p. 487 C. [Greek: e)ni/ka e)s u(mi=n

toia/de tis do/xa, mê\ prothumei=sthai ei)s tê\n a)kribei/an

philosophei=n, a)lla\ eu)labei=sthai. . . . o(/pôs mê\ pe/ra tou=

de/ontos sophô/teroi geno/menoi lê/sete diaphthare/ntes.]

The view here advocated by Kallikles:--That philosophy is good and

useful, to be studied up to a point in the earlier years of life, in

order to qualify persons for effective discharge of the duties of

active citizenship, but that it ought not to be made the main

occupation of mature life, nor be prosecuted up to the pitch of

accurate theorising: this view, since Plato here assigns it to

Kallikles, is denounced by most of the Platonic critics as if it were

low and worthless. Yet it was held by many of the most respectable

citizens of antiquity; and the question is, in point of fact, that

which has always been in debate between the life of theoretical

speculation and the life of action.

Isokrates urges the same view both in Orat. xv. De Permutatione,

sect. 282-287, pp. 485-486, Bekker; and Orat. xii. Panathenaic. sect.

29-32, p. 321, Bekker. [Greek: diatri/psai me\n ou)=n peri\ ta\s

paidei/as tau/tas chro/non tina\ sumbouleu/saim' a)\n toi=s

neôte/rois, mê\ me/ntoi perii+dei=n tê\n phu/sin tê\n au)tô=n

kataskeleteuthei=san e)pi\ tou/tois], &c. Cicero quotes a similar

opinion put by Ennius the poet into the mouth of Neoptolemus, Tusc.

D. ii. 1, 1; Aulus Gell. v. 16--"degustandum ex philosophiâ censet,

non in eam ingurgitandum".

Tacitus, in describing the education of Agricola, who was taken by

his mother in his earlier years to study at Massilia, says,

c. 4:--"Memoriâ teneo, solitum ipsum narrare, se in primâ juventâ

studium philosophiæ, _ultra quam concessum Romano et senatori_,

hausisse; ni prudentia matris incensum ac flagrantem animum

coercuisset".

I have already cited this last passage, and commented upon the same

point, in my notes at the end of the Euthydêmus, p. 230.]

[Side-note: Position of one who dissents, upon material

points, from the fixed opinions and creed of his countrymen.]

That in order to succeed politically, a man must be a genuine

believer in the creed of King Nomos or the ruling force--cast in the

same spiritual mould--(I here take the word _creed_ not as

confined to religion, but as embracing the whole of a man's critical

_idéal_, on moral or social practice, politics, or taste--the

ends which he deems worthy of being aspired to, or proper to be

shunned, by himself or others) is laid down by Sokrates as a general

position: and with perfect truth. In disposing of the force or

influence of government, whoever possesses that force will use it

conformably to his own maxims. A man who dissents from these maxims

will find no favour in the public assembly; nor, probably, if his

dissent be grave and wide, will he ever be able to speak out his

convictions aloud in it, without incurring dangerous antipathy. But

what is to become of such a dissenter[122]--the man who frequents the

same porticos with the people, but does not hold the same creed,

nor share their judgments respecting social _expetenda_ and

_fugienda_? How is he to be treated by the government, or by the

orthodox majority of society in their individual capacity? Debarred,

by the necessity of the case, from influence over the public

councils--what latitude of pursuit, profession, or conduct, is to be

left to him as a citizen? How far is he to question, or expose, or

require to be proved, that which the majority believe without proof?

Shall he be required to profess, or to obey, or to refrain from

contradicting, religious or ethical doctrines which he has examined

and rejected? Shall such requirement be enforced by threat of legal

penalties, or of ill-treatment from individuals, which is not less

intolerable than legal penalties? What is likely to be his character,

if compelled to suppress all declaration of his own creed, and to act

and speak as if he were believer in another?

[Footnote 122: Horat. Epist. i. 1, 70--

"Quod si me populus Romanus forté roget, cur

Non ut porticibus, sic judiciis fruar iisdem,

Nec sequar aut fugiam quæ diligit ipse vel odit:

Olim quod vulpes ægroto cauta leoni

Respondit, referam: Quia me vestigia terrent

Omnia te adversum spectantia, nulla retrorsum."]

[Side-note: Probable feelings of Plato on this subject. Claim

put forward in the Gorgias of an independent _locus standi_ for

philosophy, but without the indiscriminate cross-examination pursued

by Sokrates.]

The questions here suggested must have impressed themselves forcibly

on the mind of Plato when he recollected the fate of Sokrates. In

spite of a blameless life, Sokrates had been judicially condemned and

executed for publicly questioning received opinions, innovating upon

the established religion, and instilling into young persons habits of

doubt. To dissent only for the better, afforded no assurance of

safety: and Plato knew well that his own dissent from the Athenian

public was even wider and more systematic than that of his master.

The position and plan of life for an active-minded reasoner,

dissenting from the established opinions of the public, could not but

be an object of interesting reflection to him.[123] The Gorgias

(written, in my judgment, long after the death of Sokrates, probably

after the Platonic school was established) announces the vocation of

the philosopher, and claims an open field for speculation, apart from

the actualities of politics--for the self-acting reason of the

individual doubter and investigator, against the authority of

numbers and the pressure of inherited tradition. A formal

assertion to this effect was worthy of the founder of the Academy--the

earliest philosophical school at Athens. Yet we may observe that

while the Platonic Sokrates in the Gorgias adopts the life of

philosophy, he does not renew that farther demand with which the

historical Sokrates had coupled it in his Apology--the liberty of

oral and aggressive cross-examination, addressed to individuals

personally and indiscriminately[124]--to the _primores populi_

as well as to the _populum tributim_. The fate of Sokrates

rendered Plato more cautious, and induced him to utter his ethical

interrogations and novelties of opinion in no other way except that

of lectures to chosen hearers and written dialogue: borrowing the

name of Sokrates or some other speaker, and refraining upon system

(as his letters[125] tell us that he did) from publishing any

doctrines in his own name.

[Footnote 123: I have already referred to the treatise of Mr. John

Stuart Mill "On Liberty," where this important topic is discussed in

a manner equally profound and enlightened. The co-existence of

individual reasoners enquiring and philosophising for themselves,

with the fixed opinions of the majority, is one of the main

conditions which distinguish a progressive from a stationary

community.]

[Footnote 124: Plat. Apol. Sokr. pp. 21-22-23-28 E. [Greek: tou= de\

theou= ta/ttontos, ô(s e)gô\ ô)|ê/thên te kai\ u(pe/labon,

philophou=nta me dei=n zê=|n kai\ _e)xeta/zonta e)mauto/n te kai\

tou\s a)/llous_], &c.]

[Footnote 125: Plat. Epist. ii. 314 B. K. F. Hermann (Ueber Platon's

Schriftstellerische Motive, p. 290) treats any such prudential

discretion, in respect to the form and mode of putting forward

unpopular opinions, as unworthy of Plato, and worthy only of

Protagoras and other Sophists. I dissent from this opinion

altogether. We know that Protagoras was very circumspect as to form

(Timon ap. Sext. Emp. adv. Mathemat. ix. s. 57); but the passage of

Plato cited by Hermann does not prove it.]

[Side-note: Importance of maintaining the utmost liberty of

discussion. Tendency of all ruling orthodoxy towards intolerance.]

As a man dissenting from received opinions, Sokrates had his path

marked out in the field of philosophy or individual speculation. To

such a mind as his, the fullest liberty ought to be left, of

professing and defending his own opinions, as well as of combating

other opinions, accredited or not, which he may consider false or

uncertified.[126] The public guidance of the state thus falls to one

class of minds, the activity of speculative discussion to another;

though accident may produce, here and there, a superior

individual, comprehensive or dexterous enough to suffice for both.

But the main desideratum is that this freedom of discussion should

exist: that room shall be made, and encouragement held out, to the

claims of individual reason, and to the full publication of all

doubts or opinions, be they what they may: that the natural tendency

of all ruling force, whether in few or in many hands, to perpetuate

their own dogmas by proscribing or silencing all heretics and

questioners, may be neutralised as far as possible. The great

expansive vigour of the Greek mind--the sympathy felt among the best

varieties of Greeks for intellectual superiority in all its forms--and

the privilege of free speech ([Greek: par)r(êsi/a]), on which the

democratical citizens of Athens prided themselves--did in fact

neutralise very considerably these tendencies in Athens. A greater

and more durable liberty of philosophising was procured for Athens,

and through Athens for Greece generally, than had ever been known

before in the history of mankind.

[Footnote 126: So Sokrates also says in the Platonic Apology, pp.

31-32. [Greek: Ou) ga\r e)/stin o(/stis a)nthrô/pôn sôthê/setai ou)/te

u(mi=n ou)/te a)/llô| plê/thei ou)deni\ gnêsi/ôs e)nantiou/menos,

kai\ diakôlu/ôn polla\ a)/dika kai\ para/noma e)n tê=| po/lei

gi/gnesthai; a)ll' a)nagkai=o/n e)sti to\n tô=| o)/nti machou/menon

u(pe\r tou= dikai/ou, kai\ ei) me/llei o)li/gon chro/non

sôthê/sesthai, _i)diôteu/ein a)lla\ mê\ dêmosieu/ein_.]

The reader will find the speculative individuality of Sokrates

illustrated in the sixty-eighth chapter of my History of Greece.

The antithesis of the philosophising or speculative life, against the

rhetorical, political, forensic life--which is put so much to the

advantage of the former by Plato in the Gorgias, Theætêtus (p. 173,

seq.), and elsewhere was the theme of Cicero's lost dialogue called

Hortensius: wherein Hortensius was introduced pleading the cause

against philosophy, (see Orelli, Fragm. Ciceron. pp. 479-480), while

the other speakers were provided by Cicero with arguments mainly in

defence of philosophy, partly also against rhetoric. The competition

between the teachers of rhetoric and the teachers of philosophy

continued to be not merely animated but bitter, from Plato downward

throughout the Ciceronian age. (Cicero, De Orat. i. 45-46-47-75,

&c.)

We read in the treatise of Plutarch against the Epikurean Kolôtes, an

acrimonious invective against Epikurus and his followers, for

recommending a scheme of life such as to withdraw men from active

political functions (Plutarch, adv. Kolôt. pp. 1125 C, 1127-1128);

the like also in his other treatise, Non Posse Suaviter Vivi secundum

Epicurum. But Plutarch at the same time speaks as if Epikurus were

the only philosopher who had recommended this, and as if all the

other philosophers had recommended an active life; nay, he talks of

Plato among the philosophers actively engaged in practical

reformatory legislation, through Dion and the pupils of the Academy

(p. 1126, B, C). Here Plutarch mistakes: the Platonic tendencies were

quite different from what he supposes. The Gorgias and Theætêtus

enforce upon the philosopher a life quite apart from politics,

pursuing his own course, and not meddling with others--[Greek:

philoso/phou ta\ au(tou= pra/xantos kai\ ou) polupragmonê/santos e)n

tô=| bi/ô|] (Gorg. 526 C); which is the same advice as Epikurus gave.

It is set forth eloquently in the poetry of Lucretius, but it had

been set forth previously, not less eloquently, in the rhetoric of

Plato.]

[Side-note: Issue between philosophy and rhetoric--not

satisfactorily handled by Plato. Injustice done to rhetoric. Ignoble

manner in which it is presented by Polus and Kalliklês.]

This antithesis of the philosophical life to the rhetorical or

political, constitutes one of the most interesting features of the

Platonic Gorgias. But when we follow the pleadings upon which Plato

rests this grand issue, and the line which he draws between the two

functions, we find much that is unsatisfactory. Since Plato himself

pleads both sides of the case, he is bound in fairness to set forth

the case which he attacks (that of rhetoric), as it would be put by

competent and honourable advocates--by Perikles, for example, or

Demosthenes, or Isokrates, or Quintilian. He does this, to a certain

extent, in the first part of the dialogue, carried on by Sokrates

with Gorgias. But in the succeeding portions--carried on with Pôlus

and Kalliklês, and occupying three-fourths of the whole--he alters

the character of the defence, and merges it in ethical theories which

Perikles, had he been the defender, would not only have put aside as

misplaced, but disavowed as untrue. Perikles would have listened with

mixed surprise and anger, if he had heard any one utter the monstrous

assertion which Plato puts into the mouth of Polus--That rhetors,

like despots, kill, impoverish, or expel any citizen at their

pleasure. Though Perikles was the most powerful of all Athenian

rhetors, yet he had to contend all his life against fierce opposition

from others, and was even fined during his last years. He would

hardly have understood how an Athenian citizen could have made any

assertion so completely falsified by all the history of Athens,

respecting the omnipotence of the rhetors. Again, if he had heard

Kalliklês proclaiming that the strong giant had a natural right to

satiate all his desires at the cost of the weaker Many--and that

these latter sinned against Nature when they took precautions to

prevent him--Perikles would have protested against the proclamation

as emphatically as Plato.[127]

[Footnote 127: Perikles might indeed have referred to his own

panegyrical oration in Thucydides, ii. 37.]

[Side-note: Perikles would have accepted the defence of

rhetoric, as Plato has put it into the mouth of Gorgias.]

If we suppose Perikles to have undertaken the defence of the

rhetorical element at Athens, against the dialectic element

represented by Sokrates, he would have accepted it, though not a

position of his own choosing, on the footing on which Plato places it

in the mouth of Gorgias: "Rhetoric is an engine of persuasion

addressed to numerous assembled auditors: it ensures freedom to the

city (through the free exercise of such a gift by many competing

orators) and political ascendency or command to the ablest rhetor. It

thus confers great power on him who possesses it in the highest

measure: but he ought by no means to employ that power for unjust

purposes." It is very probable that Perikles might have recommended

rhetorical study to Sokrates, as a means of defending himself

against unjust accusations, and of acquiring a certain measure of

influence on public affairs.[128] But he would have distinguished

carefully (as Horace does) between defending yourself against unjust

attacks, and making unjust attacks upon others: though the same

weapon may suit for both.

[Footnote 128: Horat. Satir. ii. 1, 39--

"Hic stilus haud petet ultro

Quemquam animantem; et me veluti custodiet ensis

Vaginâ tectus; quem cur destringere coner,

Tutus ab infestis latronibus? Oh pater et rex

Jupiter! ut pereat positum rubigine telum,

Nec quisquam noceat cupido mihi pacis! At ille

Qui me commôrit (melius non tangere! clamo)

Flebit, et insignis totâ cantabitur urbe."

We need only read the Memorabilia of Xenophon (ii. 9), to see that

the historical Sokrates judged of these matters differently from the

Platonic Sokrates of the Gorgias. Kriton complained to Sokrates that

life was difficult at Athens for a quiet man who wished only to mind

his own business ([Greek: ta\ e(autou= pra/ttein]); because there

were persons who brought unjust actions at law against him, for the

purpose of extorting money to buy them off. The Platonic Sokrates of

the Gorgias would have replied to him: "Never mind: you are just, and

these assailants are unjust: they are by their own conduct entailing

upon themselves a terrible distemper, from which, if you leave them

unpunished, they will suffer all their lives: they injure themselves

more than they injure you". But the historical Sokrates in Xenophon

replies in quite another spirit. He advises Kriton to look out for a

clever and active friend, to attach this person to his interest by

attention and favours, and to trust to him for keeping off the

assailants. Accordingly, a poor but energetic man named Archedemus is

found, who takes Kriton's part against the assailants, and even

brings counterattacks against them, which force them to leave Kriton

alone, and to give money to Archedemus himself. The advice given by

the Xenophontic Sokrates to Kriton is the same in principle as the

advice given by Kallikles to the Platonic Sokrates.]

[Side-note: The Athenian people recognise a distinction

between the pleasurable and the good: but not the same as that which

Plato conceived.]

Farther, neither Perikles, nor any defender of free speech, would

assent to the definition of rhetoric--That it is a branch of the art

of flattery, studying the immediately pleasurable, and disregarding

the good.[129] This indeed represents Plato's own sentiment, and was

true in the sense which the Platonic Sokrates assigns (in the

Gorgias, though not in the Protagoras) to the words _good_ and

_evil_. But it is not true in the sense which the Athenian

people and the Athenian public men assigned to those words. Both

the one and the other used the words _pleasurable_ and

_good_ as familiarly as Plato, and had sentiments corresponding

to both of them. The pleasurable and painful referred to present and

temporary causes: the Good and Evil to prospective causes and

permanent situations, involving security against indefinite future

suffering, combined with love of national dignity and repugnance to

degradation, as well as with a strong sense of common interests and

common obligations to each other. To provide satisfaction for these

common patriotic feelings--to sustain the dignity of the city by

effective and even imposing public establishments, against foreign

enemies--to protect the individual rights of citizens by an equitable

administration of justice--counted in the view of the Athenians as

objects _good_ and _honourable_: while the efforts and

sacrifices necessary for these permanent ends, were, so far as they

went, a renunciation of what they would call the

_pleasurable_. When, at the beginning of the Peloponnesian war,

the Athenians, acting on the advice of Perikles, allowed all Attica

to be ravaged, and submitted to the distress of cooping the whole

population within the long walls, rather than purchase peace by

abnegating their Hellenic dignity, independence, and security--they

not only renounced much that was pleasurable, but endured great

immediate distress, for the sake of what they regarded as a permanent

good.[130] Eighty years afterwards, when Demosthenes pointed out to

them the growing power and encroachments of the Macedonian Philip,

and exhorted them to the efforts requisite for keeping back that

formidable enemy, while there was yet time--they could not be wound

up to the pitch requisite for affronting so serious an amount of

danger and suffering. They had lost that sense of Hellenic dignity,

and that association of self-respect with active personal soldiership

and sailorship, which rendered submission to an enemy the most

intolerable of all pains, at the time when Perikles had addressed

them. They shut their eyes to an impending danger, which ultimately

proved their ruin. On both these occasions, we have the

_pleasurable_ and the _good_ brought into contrast in the

Athenian mind; in both we have the two most eminent orators of

Grecian antiquity enforcing the _good_ in opposition to the

_pleasurable_: the first successfully, the last vainly, in

opposition to other orators.

[Footnote 129: The reply composed by the rhetor Aristeides to the

Gorgias of Plato is well deserving of perusal, though (like all his

compositions) it is very prolix and wordy. See Aristeides, Orationes

xlv. and xlvi.--[Greek: Perei\ R(êtorikê=s], and [Greek: U(pe\r tô=n

Tetta/rôn]. In the last of the two orations he defends the four

eminent Athenians (Miltiades, Themistoklês, Periklês, Kimon) whom

Plato disparages in the Gorgias.

Aristeides insists forcibly on the partial and narrow view here taken

by Plato of persuasion, as a working force both for establishing laws

and carrying on government. He remarks truly that there are only two

forces between which the choice must be made, intimidation and

persuasion: that the substitution of persuasion in place of force is

the great improvement which has made public and private life worth

having ([Greek: mo/nê biôto\n ê(mi=n pepoi/êke to\n bi/on], Orat.

xlv. p. 64, Dindorf); that neither laws could be discussed and

passed, nor judicial trial held under them, without [Greek:

r(êtorikê\] as the engine of persuasion (pp. 66-67-136); that Plato

in attacking Rhetoric had no right to single out despots and violent

conspirators as illustrations of it--[Greek: ei)=t' e)le/gchein me\n

bou/letai tê\n r(êtorikê/n, katêgorei= de\ tô=n tura/nnôn kai\

dunastô=n, _ta\ a)/mikta mignu/s--ti/s_ ga\r ou)k oi)=den, o(/ti

r(êtorikê\ kai\ turanni\s tosou=ton a)llê/lôn kechôri/stai, o(/son

to\ pei/thein tou= bia/zesthai] (p. 99). He impugns the distinction

which Plato has drawn between [Greek: i)atrikê/, gumnastikê/,

kubernêtikê/, nomothetikê/], &c., on the one side, which Plato

calls [Greek: te/chnai], arts or sciences, and affirms to rest on

scientific principles--and [Greek: r(êtorikê/, mageirikê/], &c.,

on the other side, which Plato affirms to be only guess work or

groping, resting on empirical analogies. Aristeides says that [Greek:

i)atrikê\] and [Greek: r(êtorikê\] are in this respect both on a par;

that both are partly reducible to rule, but partly also driven by

necessity to conjectures and analogies, and the physician not less

than the rhetor (pp. 45-48-49); which the Platonic Sokrates himself

affirms in another dialogue, Philêbus, p. 56 A.

The most curious part of the argument of Aristeides is where he

disputes the prerogative which Plato had claimed for [Greek:

i)atrikê/, gumnastikê/] &c., on the ground of their being arts or

reducible to rules. The effects of human art (says Aristeides) are

much inferior to those of [Greek: thei/a moi=ra] or divine

inspiration. Many patients are cured of disease by human art; but

many more are cured by the responses and directions of the Delphian

oracle, by the suggestion of dreams, and by other varieties of the

divine prompting, delivered through the Pythian priestess, a woman

altogether ignorant (p. 11). [Greek: kai/toi mikra\ me\n ê( pa/ntas

ei)dui=a lo/gous i)atrikê\ pro\s ta\s e)k Delphô=n du/natai lu/seis,

o(/sai kai\ i)di/a| kai\ koinê=| kai\ no/sôn kai\ pathêma/tôn

a(pantôn a)nthrôpi/nôn e)pha/nthêsan.] Patients who are cured in this

way by the Gods without medical art, acquire a natural impulse which

leads them to the appropriate remedy--[Greek: e)pithumi/a au)tou\s

a)/gei e)pi\ to\ o)/nêson] (p. 20). Aristeides says that he can

himself depose--from his own personal experience as a sick man

seeking cure, and from personal knowledge of many other such--how

much more efficacious in healing is aid from the Gods, given in

dreams and other ways, than advice from physicians; who might well

shudder when they heard the stories which he could tell (pp. 21-22).

To undervalue science and art (he says) is the principle from which

men start, when they flee to the Gods for help--[Greek: tou=

kataphugei=n e)pi\ tou\s theou\s schedo\n a)rchê/, to\ tê=s te/chnês

u(peridei=n e)/stin.]]

[Footnote 130: Nothing can be more at variance with the doctrine

which Plato assigns to Kalliklês in the Gorgias, than the three

memorable speeches of Perikles in Thucydides, i. 144, ii. 35, ii. 60,

seq. All these speeches are penetrated with the deepest sense of that

[Greek: koinôni/a] and [Greek: phili/a] which the Platonic Sokrates

extols: not one of them countenances [Greek: pleonexi/an], which the

Platonic Sokrates forbids (Gorg. 508 E). [Greek: To\ prostalaipôrei=n

tô=| do/xanti kalô=|] (to use the expressive phrase of Thucydides,

ii. 53) was a remarkable feature in the character of the Athenians of

that day: it was subdued for the moment by the overwhelming misery of

pestilence and war combined.]

[Side-note: Rhetoric was employed at Athens in appealing to

all the various established sentiments and opinions. Erroneous

inferences raised by the Kalliklês of Plato.]

Lastly, it is not merely the political power of the Athenians that

Perikles employs his eloquence to uphold. He dwells also with

emphasis on the elegance of taste, on the intellectual force and

activity, which warranted him in decorating the city with the title

of Preceptress of Hellas.[131] All this belongs, not to the

pleasurable as distinguished from the good, but to good (whether

immediately pleasurable or not) in its most comprehensive sense,

embracing the improvement and refinement of the collective mind. If

Perikles, in this remarkable funeral harangue, flattered the

sentiments of the people--as he doubtless did--he flattered them by

kindling their aspirations towards good. And Plato himself does the

same (though less nobly and powerfully), adopting the received

framework of Athenian sentiment, in his dialogue called Menexenus,

which we shall come to in a future chapter.

[Footnote 131: Thucyd. ii. 41-42. [Greek: xunelô/n te le/gô tê/n te

pa=san po/lin tê=s E(lla/dos pai/deusin ei)=nai], &c.]

[Side-note: The Platonic Idéal exacts, as good, some order,

system, discipline. But order may be directed to bad ends as well as

to good. Divergent ideas about virtue.]

The issue, therefore, which Plato here takes against Rhetoric, must

stand or fall with the Platonic Idéal of Good and Evil. But when he

thus denounces both the general public and the most patriotic

rhetors, to ensure exclusive worship for his own Idéal of Good--we

may at least require that he shall explain, wherein consists that

Good--by what mark it is distinguishable--and on what authority

pre-eminence is claimed for it. So far, indeed, we advance by the help

of Plato's similes[132]--order, discipline, health and strength of

body--that we are called upon to recognise, apart from all particular

moments of enjoyment or suffering, of action or quiescence, a certain

permanent mental condition and habit--a certain order, regulation,

discipline--as an object of high importance to be attained. This (as

I have before remarked) is a valuable idea which pervades, in one

form or another, all the Hellenic social views, from Sokrates

downward, and even before Sokrates; an idea, moreover, which was

common to Peripatetics, Stoics, Epikureans. But mental order and

discipline is not in itself an end: it may be differently cast, and

may subserve many different purposes. The Pythagorean brotherhood was

intensely restrictive in its canons. The Spartan system exhibited the

strictest order and discipline--an assemblage of principles and

habits predetermined by authority and enforced upon all--yet neither

Plato nor Aristotle approve of its results. Order and discipline

attained full perfection in the armies of Julius Caesar and the

French Emperor Napoleon; in the middle ages, also, several of

the monastic orders stood high in respect to finished discipline

pervading the whole character: and the Jesuits stood higher than any.

Each of these systems has included terms equivalent to justice,

temperance, virtue, vice, &c., with sentiments associated

therewith, yet very different from what Plato would have approved.

The question--What is Virtue?--_Vir bonus est quis?_--will be

answered differently in each. The Spartans--when they entrapped (by a

delusive pretence of liberation and military decoration) two thousand

of their bravest Helot warriors, and took them off by private

assassinations,[133]--did not offend against their own idea of

virtue, or against the Platonic exigency of Order--Measure--System.

[Footnote 132: Plat. Gorg. p. 504.]

[Footnote 133: Thucydid. iv. 80.]

[Side-note: How to discriminate the right order from the

wrong. Plato does not advise us.]

It is therefore altogether unsatisfactory, when Plato--professing to

teach us how to determine scientifically, which pleasures are bad,

and which pains are good--refers to a durable mental order and

discipline. Of such order there existed historically many varieties;

and many more are conceivable, as Plato himself has shown in the

Republic and Leges. By what tests is the right order to be

distinguished from the wrong? If by its results, by _what_

results?--calculations for minimising pains, and maximising

pleasures, being excluded by the supposition? Here the Sokrates of

the Gorgias is at fault. He has not told us by what scientific test

the intelligent Expert proceeds in determining what pleasures are

bad, and what pains are good. He leaves such determination to the

unscientific sentiment of each society and each individual. He has

not, in fact, responded to the clear and pertinent challenge thrown

out by the Sokrates of the Protagoras.

[Side-note: The Gorgias upholds the independence and dignity

of the dissenting philosopher.]

I think, for these reasons, that the logic of the Gorgias is not at

all on a par with its eloquence. But there is one peculiar feature

which distinguishes it among all the Platonic dialogues. Nowhere in

ancient literature is the title, position, and dignity of individual

dissenting opinion, ethical and political--against established

ethical and political orthodoxy--so clearly marked out and so boldly

asserted. "The Athenians will judge as they think right: none

but those speakers who are in harmony with them, have any chance of

addressing their public assemblies with effect, and acquiring

political influence. I, Sokrates, dissent from them, and have no

chance of political influence: but I claim the right of following

out, proclaiming, and defending, the conclusions of my own individual

reason, until debate satisfies me that I am wrong."

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