Mr. DONOVAN. I don't recall that he ever expressed any denial of God.
Mr. ELY. Never mentioned the subject at all?
Mr. DONOVAN. If he did, I don't recall it.
Mr. ELY. Do you recall his getting into any fights while he and you
were at Santa Ana?
Mr. DONOVAN. I do not recall his getting into any fights.
Mr. ELY. I believe you mentioned earlier that he did not seem to you
particularly interested in girls.
Was this just because he was interested in other things, or do you
have any reason to believe that there was anything abnormal about his
desires?
Mr. DONOVAN. I have no reason to suspect that he was homosexual, and in
that squadron at that time one fellow was discharged from the service
for being homosexual. He was in no way tied in with it that I know
of. His lack of interest in girls may be only my belief, because as
an officer I cannot have occasion to know him socially, but in our
conversations he never was particularly interested in talking about
them.
Mr. ELY. Do you know whether he smoked?
Mr. DONOVAN. I don't recall.
Mr. ELY. Would you say that he had a good sense of humor?
Mr. DONOVAN. If my sense of humor is good, he did not.
Mr. ELY. Did he attempt to be funny?
Mr. DONOVAN. He attempted it at times.
Mr. ELY. And, in your opinion, failed?
Mr. DONOVAN. And in my opinion he was a failure in that respect.
Mr. ELY. You have mentioned that he read a Russian newspaper. Do you
remember any other possessions or habits or affectations which would
suggest an interest in the Soviet Union?
Mr. DONOVAN. No, I do not.
However, I do recall that in college we had some monumentally boring
textbooks to read concerning GATT, et cetera--at least at the time they
were monumentally boring. And on occasion he would bring up one of
these books--I don't recall which one--but say, "Are you familiar with
this?" And it was my good fortune to have studied it. And he would ask
about something. And in some respects he would ask you about a term he
did not know. But he never would ask you about a concept, except in
an effort to get you to discuss it or argue it. But he would ask you
what some word meant in economics. He was interested in international
economics.
Mr. ELY. Could you state for the record what GATT stands for?
Mr. DONOVAN. General Agreement on Trade and Tariff.
Mr. ELY. Do you recall his having any nicknames?
Mr. DONOVAN. Yes.
Mr. ELY. What were they?
Mr. DONOVAN. Ozzie.
Mr. ELY. Anything else?
Mr. DONOVAN. Not that I recall.
Mr. ELY. Did most people call him Ozzie?
Mr. DONOVAN. Or Oz.
Mr. ELY. Did you ever know or hear of his being in contact with the
Cuban consulate, either in person or by mail?
Mr. DONOVAN. I never heard of that.