He said, "No, sir. When you get downstairs, close the gate to the
elevator."
That meant the elevator on the west side, you can pull both gates down
and it will come up by itself.
Mr. BELIN. What else did he say?
Mr. GIVENS. That is all.
Mr. BELIN. What did you say to that? Did you say you would close the
elevator gate, or not say anything?
Mr. GIVENS. I said, "Okay," and got on the elevator.
Mr. BELIN. What elevator did you take down?
Mr. GIVENS. I taken this one.
Mr. BELIN. The east elevator?
Mr. GIVENS. The east elevator.
Mr. BELIN. Do you know whether or not when you got down to the first
floor, the west elevator was there?
Mr. GIVENS. No, sir; it wasn't, because I looked over there to close
the gate and it wasn't there.
Mr. BELIN. It wasn't there when you got down to the first floor?
Mr. GIVENS. No, sir; it wasn't.
Mr. BELIN. Do you know where it was?
Mr. GIVENS. No, sir; I don't.
Mr. BELIN. What time was this?
Mr. GIVENS. Well, I would say it was about 5 minutes to 12, then
because it was----
Mr. BELIN. Now what did you do when you got down there on the first
floor?
Mr. GIVENS. When I got down to the first floor Harold Norman, James
Jarman and myself, we stood over by the window, and then we said we was
going outside and watch the parade, so we walked out and we stood there
a while, and then I said, "I believe I will walk up to the parking lot."