NO. XXIV.

[Sidenote: The Bishop’s reply.]

_J. D._ “Fifthly and lastly, the divine labours to find out a way how

liberty may consist with the prescience and decrees of God. But of this

I had not very long since occasion to write a full discourse, in answer

to a treatise against the prescience of things contingent. I shall for

the present only repeat these two things. First, we ought not to desert

a certain truth, because we are not able to comprehend the certain

manner. God should be but a poor God, if we were able perfectly to

comprehend all his actions and attributes. Secondly, in my poor

judgment, which I ever do and ever shall submit to better, the readiest

way to reconcile contingence and liberty with the decrees and prescience

of God, and most remote from the altercations of these times, is to

subject future contingents to the aspect of God, according to that

presentiality which they have in eternity. Not that things future, which

are not yet existent, are co-existent with God: but because the infinite

knowledge of God, incircling all times in the point of eternity, doth

attain to their future being, from whence proceeds their objective and

intelligible being. The main impediment which keeps men from subscribing

to this way, is because they conceive eternity to be an everlasting

succession, and not one indivisible point. But if they consider, that

whatsoever is in God is God; that there are no accidents in him, (for

that which is infinitely perfect cannot be further perfected); that as

God is not wise, but wisdom itself, not just, but justice itself, so he

is not eternal, but eternity itself: they must needs conclude, that

therefore this eternity is indivisible, because God is indivisible; and

therefore not successive, but altogether an infinite point,

comprehending all times within itself.”

_T. H._ The last part of this discourse containeth his opinion about

reconciling liberty with the prescience and decrees of God, otherwise

than some divines have done; against whom he had formerly written a

treatise, out of which he only repeateth two things. One is, that “we

ought not to desert a certain truth, for not being able to comprehend

the certain manner of it”. And I say the same; as for example, that he

ought not to desert this certain truth: that there are certain and

necessary causes, which make every man to will what he willeth, though

he do not yet conceive in what manner the will of man is caused. And yet

I think the manner of it is not very hard to conceive: seeing that we

see daily, that praise, dispraise, reward, punishment, good and evil

sequels of men’s actions retained in memory, do frame and make us to the

election of whatsoever it be that we elect; and that the memory of such

things proceeds from the senses, and sense from the operation of the

objects of sense, which are external to us, and governed only by God

Almighty; and by consequence, all actions, even of free and voluntary

agents, are necessary.

The other thing he repeateth is, that “the best way to reconcile

contingency and liberty with the prescience and decrees of God, is to

subject future contingents to the aspect of God”. The same is also my

opinion, but contrary to what he hath all this while laboured to prove.

For hitherto he held liberty and necessity, that is to say, liberty and

the decrees of God, irreconcilable; unless the aspect of God (which word

appeareth now the first time in this discourse) signify somewhat else

besides God’s will and decree, which I cannot understand. But he adds,

that we must subject them “according to that presentiality which they

have in eternity”; which he says cannot be done by them that conceive

eternity to be an everlasting succession, but only by them that conceive

it an indivisible point. To this I answer, that as soon as I can

conceive eternity to be an indivisible point, or any thing but an

everlasting succession, I will renounce all I have written on this

subject. I know St. Thomas Aquinas calls eternity _nunc stans_, an _ever

abiding now_; which is easy enough to say, but though I fain would, I

never could conceive it; they that can, are more happy than I. But in

the mean time he alloweth hereby all men to be of my opinion, save only

those that conceive in their minds a _nunc stans_; which I think are

none. I understand as little, how it can be true that “God is not just,

but justice itself, not wise but wisdom itself, not eternal but eternity

itself”: nor how he concludes thence that “eternity is a point

indivisible, and not a succession”: nor in what sense it can be said,

that an “infinite point,” &c, wherein is no succession, can “comprehend

all times,” though time be successive.

These phrases I find not in the Scripture. I wonder therefore what was

the design of the Schoolmen to bring them up; unless they thought a man

could not be a true Christian, unless his understanding be first

strangled with such hard sayings.

And thus much in answer to his discourse; wherein I think not only his

squadrons, but also his reserves of distinctions are defeated. And now

your Lordship shall have my doctrine concerning the same question, with

my reasons for it, positively and briefly as I can, without any terms of

art, in plain English.

_J. D._ (_a_) “That poor discourse which I mention, was not written

against any divines, but in way of examination of a French treatise,

which your Lordship’s brother did me the honour to show me at York.

(_b_) My assertion is most true, that we ought not to desert a certain

truth because we are not able to comprehend the certain manner. Such a

truth is that which I maintain, that the will of man in ordinary actions

is free from extrinsical determination: a truth demonstrable in reason,

received and believed by all the world. And therefore, though I be not

able to comprehend or express exactly the certain manner how it consists

together with God’s eternal prescience and decrees, which exceed my weak

capacity, yet I ought to adhere to that truth which is manifest. But T.

H.’s opinion, of the absolute necessity of all events by reason of their

antecedent determination in their extrinsical and necessary causes, is

no such certain truth, but an innovation, a strange paradox, without

probable grounds, rejected by all authors, yea, by all the world.

Neither is the manner how the second causes do operate, so obscure, or

so transcendent above the reach of reason, as the eternal decrees of God

are. And therefore in both these respects, he cannot challenge the same

privilege. I am in possession of an old truth, derived by inheritance or

succession from mine ancestors. And therefore, though I were not able to

clear every quirk in law, yet I might justly hold my possession until a

better title were showed for another. He is no old possessor, but a new

pretender, and is bound to make good his claim by evident proofs: not by

weak and inconsequent suppositions or inducements, such as those are

which he useth here, of ‘praises, dispraises, rewards, punishments, the

memory of good and evil sequels and events’; which may incline the will,

but neither can nor do necessitate the will: nor by uncertain and

accidental inferences, such as this; ‘the memory of praises, dispraises,

rewards, punishments, good and evil sequels, do make us’ (he should say,

_dispose_ us) ‘to elect what we elect; but the memory of these things is

from the sense, and the sense from the operation of the external

objects, and the agency of external objects is only from God; therefore

all actions, even of free and voluntary agents, are necessary’. (_c_) To

pass by all the other great imperfections which are to be found in this

sorite, it is just like that old sophistical piece: He that drinks well

sleeps well, he that sleeps well thinks no hurt, he that thinks no hurt

lives well; therefore he that drinks well lives well.

(_d_) “In the very last passage of my discourse I proposed mine own

private opinion, how it might be made appear, that the eternal

prescience and decrees of God are consistent with true liberty and

contingency. And this I set down in as plain terms as I could, or as so

profound a speculation would permit: which is almost wholly

misunderstood by T. H., and many of my words wrested to a wrong sense.

As first, where I speak of the aspect of God, that is, his view, his

knowledge, by which the most free and contingent actions were manifest

to him from eternity, (Heb. iv. 13, _all things are naked and open to

his eyes_), and this not discursively, but intuitively, not by external

species, but by his internal essence; he confounds this with the will

and the decrees of God; though he found not the word _aspect_ before in

this discourse, he might have found prescience. (_e_) Secondly, he

chargeth me, that hitherto I have maintained that ‘liberty and the

decrees of God are irreconcilable.’ If I have said any such thing, my

heart never went along with my pen. No, but his reason why he chargeth

me on this manner is, because I have maintained that ‘liberty and the

absolute necessity of all things’ are irreconcilable. That is true

indeed. What then? ‘Why,’ saith he, ‘necessity and God’s decrees are all

one.’ How all one? That were strange indeed. Necessity may be a

consequent of God’s decrees; it cannot be the decree itself. (_f_) But

to cut his argument short: God hath decreed all effects which come to

pass in time; yet not all after the same manner, but according to the

distinct natures, capacities, and conditions of his creatures, which he

doth not destroy by his decree; some he acteth, with some he

co-operateth by special influence, and some he only permitteth. Yet this

is no idle or bare permission; seeing he doth concur both by way of

general influence, giving power to act; and also by disposing all events

necessary, free, and contingent to his own glory. (_g_) Thirdly, he

chargeth me, that I ‘allow all men to be of his opinion, save only those

that conceive in their minds a _nunc stans_, or how eternity is an

indivisible point, rather than an everlasting succession’. But I have

given no such allowance. I know there are many other ways proposed by

divines, for reconciling the eternal prescience and decrees of God with

the liberty and contingency of second causes; some of which may please

other judgments better than this of mine. Howsoever, though a man could

comprehend none of all these ways, yet remember what I said, that a

certain truth ought not to be rejected, because we are not able, in

respect of our weakness, to understand the certain manner or reason of

it. I know the loadstone hath an attractive power to draw the iron to

it; and yet I know not how it comes to have such a power.

“But the chiefest difficulty which offers itself in this section is,

whether eternity be an indivisible point, as I maintain it; or an

everlasting succession, as he would have it. According to his constant

use, he gives no answer to what was urged by me, but pleads against it

from his own incapacity. ‘I never could conceive,’ saith he, ‘how

eternity should be an indivisible point.’ I believe, that neither we nor

any man else can comprehend it so clearly as we do these inferior

things. The nearer that anything comes to the essence of God, the more

remote it is from our apprehension. But shall we therefore make

potentialities, and successive duration, and former and later, or a part

without a part, as they say, to be in God? Because we are not able to

understand clearly the divine perfection, we must not therefore

attribute any imperfection to him.

(_h_) “He saith moreover, that ‘he understands as little how it can be

true which I say, that God is not just but justice itself, not eternal

but eternity itself.’ It seems, howsoever he be versed in this question,

that he hath not troubled his head overmuch with reading School-divines

or metaphysicians, if he make faculties or qualities to be in God really

distinct from his essence. God is a most simple or pure act, which can

admit no composition of substance and accidents. Doth he think, that the

most perfect essence of God cannot act sufficiently without faculties

and qualities? The infinite perfection of the Divine essence excludes

all passive or receptive powers, and cannot be perfected more than it is

by any accidents. The attributes of God are not divers virtues or

qualities in him, as they are in the creatures; but really one and the

same with the Divine essence, and among themselves. They are attributed

to God to supply the defect of our capacity, who are not able to

understand that which is to be known of God under one name, or one act

of the understanding.

“Furthermore he saith, that ‘he understands not how I conclude from

hence, that eternity is an indivisable point, and not a succession’.

(_i_) I will help him. The Divine substance is indivisible; but eternity

is the Divine substance. The major is evident, because God is _actus

simplicissimus_, a most simple act; wherein there is no manner of

composition, neither of matter and form, nor of subject and accidents,

nor of parts, &c; and by consequence no divisibility. The minor hath

been clearly demonstrated in mine answer to his last doubt, and is

confessed by all men that whatsoever is in God, is God.

“Lastly, he saith, he conceives not ‘how it can be said, that an

infinite point, wherein is no succession, can comprehend all time which

is successive’. I answer, that it doth not comprehend it formally, as

time is successive; but eminently and virtually, as eternity is

infinite. To-day all eternity is co-existent with this day: to-morrow

all eternity will be co-existent with to-morrow: and so in like manner

with all the parts of time, being itself without parts. He saith, ‘he

finds not these phrases in the Scripture’. No, but he may find the thing

in the Scripture, that God is infinite in all his attributes, and not

capable of any imperfection.

“And so to show his antipathy against the Schoolmen, that he hath no

liberty or power to contain himself when he meets with any of their

phrases or tenets, he falls into another paroxism or fit of inveighing

against them; and so concludes his answer with a _plaudite_ to himself,

because he had defeated both my squadrons of arguments and reserves of

distinctions

Dicite Io pæan, et Io bis dicite pæan.

“But because his eyesight was weak, and their backs were towards him, he

quite mistook the matter. Those whom he saw routed and running away,

were his own scattered forces.”

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