130. _Phæ._ How not?

_Socr._ Wonderfully clever seems to have been the inventor of this

abstruse art, whether Tisias or whoever else he was, and by whatever

name he delights to be called. But, my friend, shall we say to him or

not?

_Phæ._ What?

_Socr._ Tisias, long since before your arrival, we happened to say, that

this probability of yours derives its influence with the multitude from

its resemblance to truth; and we just now concluded that in all cases he

knows best how to discover resemblances who is best acquainted with the

truth. So that, if you have any thing else to say about the art of

speaking, we will listen to you; but if not, we shall hold to the

conclusions we have lately come to, that unless a man has reckoned up

the different natures of those who will have to hear him, and is able to

divide things themselves into species, and to comprehend the several

particulars under one general idea, he will never be skilled in the art

of speaking so far as it is possible for a man to be so. 131. But this

he can never acquire without great labour, which a wise man ought not to

bestow for the purpose of speaking and acting amongst men, but that he

may be able to speak such things as are acceptable to the gods, and act

acceptably to them, to the utmost of his power. For, as wiser men than

we say, Tisias, a man of understanding ought not to make it his

principal study to gratify his fellow-servants, except by the way, but

good masters and of good extraction. If therefore the circuit be long,

wonder not; 132. for it is to be undertaken for the sake of great ends,

not such as you think. And even these, as our argument proves, if any

one is willing, will be best attained by those means.

_Phæ._ This appears to me, Socrates, to be very finely said, if only a

man could attain to it.

_Socr._ But when one is attempting noble things, it is surely noble also

to suffer whatever it may befal us to suffer.

_Phæ._ Assuredly.

_Socr._ As regards, then, the art and want of art in speaking, let this

suffice.

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