48. _Socr._ They appear to me to be of no estimation at all.

_Pol._ How to be of no estimation? Have they not the greatest power in

cities?

_Socr._ Not, if you mean that to have power is a good to him who

possesses it.

_Pol._ But I do say so.

_Socr._ In that case, rhetoricians appear to me to possess the least

power of all men in cities.

_Pol._ But what? do they not, like tyrants, slay whomever they please,

and deprive of their property, and banish from cities whomever they

think fit?

_Socr._ By the dog, Polus, I am doubtful with respect to each of the

things you say, whether you assert these things yourself, and declare

your own opinion, or ask me.

_Pol._ I ask you.

_Socr._ Be it so, my friend. Then you ask me two questions at once.

_Pol._ How two?

_Socr._ Did you not just now say, that rhetoricians, like tyrants, slay

whomever they please, and deprive them of their property, and banish

from cities whomever they think fit?

_Pol._ I did.

49. _Socr._ I say, then, that these are two questions, and I will give

you an answer to both. For I affirm, Polus, that rhetoricians and

tyrants have very little power in cities, as I just now said: for they

do scarcely any thing that they wish, though they do what to them

appears to be best.

_Pol._ Is not this, then, to possess great power?

_Socr._ It is not, at least as Polus says.

_Pol._ I say not? On the contrary, I say it is.

_Socr._ By Jupiter, not you. For you said that to have great power is a

good to him who possesses it.

_Pol._ And I repeat it.

_Socr._ Do you think, then, it is a good for any one to do what appears

to him to be best, when he is void of understanding? And do you call

this to possess great power?

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