We are in favor of the adoption of the universal time (clause V of the

resolutions of the Roman Conference) side by side with the local time,

for international telegraphic correspondence, and for through

international lines by railroads and steamers.

We fully accept the resolution of the Roman Conference concerning the

introduction of the system of counting the hours of the universal day

from 0 to 24; and we think it desirable that the same system should be

introduced for counting the hours in ordinary life. This would greatly

contribute to the disappearance of the arbitrary division of the day

into two parts, a. m. and p. m., and to an easier transition from

local to universal time.

We think it advisable to mark on all general maps the meridians in

time as well as in degrees of longitude, which would render the reform

familiar to the public, and facilitate its introduction in the

education of the young.

On maritime charts the longitudes ought to be given in degrees, as

these are necessary for the determination of distances in maritime

miles.

The topographical maps may maintain temporarily their national

meridian, in consequence of the difficulties of the modification of

the co-ordinates for plates already engraved; but it would be

necessary to mark on every sheet the difference between the national

and the initial universal meridian in degrees of longitude.

It would be most desirable to have in all new geographical catalogues

of astronomical and geodetical points the longitudes given in degrees

as well as in time, and that in these new catalogues the new initial

meridian be taken as the starting point for the longitudes.

The PRESIDENT. The Chair has listened with great interest and pleasure

to the paper which has just been read by the Delegate of Russia, Mr.

DE STRUVE, but the Chair begs to state that there is no resolution

before the Conference.

The PRESIDENT. The Chair will now direct the second resolution to be

read.

The resolution was read, as follows:

"From this meridian" (_i.e._, the meridian passing through

the centre of the transit instrument at the Observatory at

Greenwich) "longitude shall be counted in two directions up

to 180 degrees, east longitude being plus and west longitude

minus."

Mr. RUTHERFURD, Delegate of the United States. Mr. President, In

submitting this resolution to the Conference, I wish to say that the

remarks of the Delegate of Russia have increased my confidence in the

belief of its propriety.

Mr. W. F. ALLEN, Delegate of the United States. Mr. President, the

establishment of a prime meridian has, from the force of

circumstances, become of practical importance to certain interests

entrusted with vast responsibilities for the safety of life and

property. These interests bear an important relation to the commerce

of the world, and especially to the internal commerce of an extent of

country embracing within its limits about sixty-five degrees of

longitude. Exactness of time reckoning is an imperative necessity in

the conduct of business.

On November 18, 1883, the several railway companies of the United

States and the Dominion of Canada united in the adoption of the mean

local times of the seventy-fifth, ninetieth, one hundred and fifth,

and one hundred and twentieth meridians, west from Greenwich, as the

standards of time for the operation of their roads. The system under

which they have since been working has proved satisfactory. They have

no desire to make any further change. A large majority of the people

in the several sections of the country through which the railways pass

have either by mutual consent or special legislation adopted for their

local use, for all purposes, the standards of time employed by the

adjacent roads. Upon the public and working railway time-tables

generally the fact has been published that the trains are run by the

time of the seventy-fifth or ninetieth, etc., meridians, as the case

may be.

The same standards are used by the Railway Mail Service of the United

States Post-office Department, which had previously used Washington

time exclusively for through schedules.

It will at once be apparent how undesirable any action would be to the

transportation interests of this country, which should so locate the

prime meridian as to require these time-standard meridians to be

designated by other than exact degrees of longitude. That these

standard meridians should continue to be designated as even multiples

of fifteen degrees from Greenwich is regarded as decidedly preferable.

To change to different standards, based upon exact degrees of some

other prime meridian, would require an amount of legislation very

difficult to obtain.

At a convention of the managers of many important railway lines which

control through their connections fully three-fourths of the entire

railway system of this country, held in Philadelphia on October 9,

1884, certain action was taken, of which I have the honor to present a

duly attested copy.

"At a meeting of the _General Railway Time Convention_, held

in _Philadelphia, October 9th, 1884_, the following minute

was unanimously adopted:

"_Whereas_, An International Conference is now in session at

Washington, D. C., for the purpose of fixing upon a prime

meridian and standard of time-reckoning; and

"_Whereas_, The railway companies of the United States and

Canada have adopted a system of time standards based,

respectively, upon the mean local times of the 75th, 90th,

105th, and 120th meridians west from Greenwich, and this

system has proved so satisfactory in its working as to

render any further change inexpedient and unnecessary;

therefore

"_Resolved_, That it is the opinion of this Convention that

the selection of any prime meridian which would change the

denomination of these governing meridians from even degrees

and make them fractional in their character would be

disturbing in no small measure to the transportation lines

of the United States and Canada.

"_Resolved_, That a duly attested copy of these resolution

be presented to the Conference."

P. P. WRIGHT,

_Chairman._

Attest: HENRY B. STONE,

_Secretary pro tempore_.

Count LEWENHAUPT, Delegate of Sweden. Mr. President, I propose as an

amendment to the resolution just offered the fourth resolution adopted

by the Congress at Rome:

"It is proper to count longitude from the meridian of

Greenwich in one direction from west to east."

Baron H. VON ALVENSLEBEN, Delegate of Germany. Mr. President, I beg to

state that I think that this is only a question of detail; and, if the

question is put to the Conference, I shall not be able to vote, and I

shall abstain from voting.

The PRESIDENT. May I ask the Delegate from Germany whether his remark

applies to the amendment?

Baron H. VON ALVENSLEBEN, Delegate of Germany. Yes, sir; to the

amendment, and to the resolution, also.

Prof. ADAMS, Delegate of England. Mr. President, I must say that I am

very much inclined to agree with the Delegate of Germany in the

opinion that this is only a question of detail.

It is a mere matter of convenience whether we count longitudes in one

direction only, or in two opposite directions, considering longitudes

measured in one direction as positive and in the opposite direction as

negative. These two methods are nominally different from each other,

but in reality there is no contradiction between them.

In the mathematical reckoning of angles we may agree to begin at zero,

and reckon in one direction round the entire circumference of 360

degrees, but this does not prevent a mathematician, if he finds it

convenient for any purpose, from reckoning angles as positive when

measured in one direction, and negative when measured in the opposite

direction.

If angles be considered positive when reckoned towards the east, it is

quite consistent with this usage that they should be considered

negative when reckoned towards the west.

It is much more convenient to consider all angles as positive in

astronomical tables, but for other purposes it may be more convenient

to employ negative angles also, especially when, by so doing, you

avoid the use of large numbers.

In comparatively small countries, like Great Britain for instance, it

is more convenient when giving the longitude of a place in the west of

England to consider it as being a few degrees west of Greenwich,

rather than 350 and some degrees to the east of that meridian.

Commander SAMPSON, Delegate of the United States. Mr. President, while

I think the question of reckoning longitude is a matter of detail, I

think it devolves upon us to decide it one way or the other.

Navigators are more interested in the question than mathematicians,

and the longitudes must be engraved upon our hydrographic charts.

Now, as the learned Delegate of Great Britain, Prof. ADAMS, who has

just spoken, has stated, the principle involved is the same, whether

we reckon east or west, or reckon continuously in the same direction.

It seems to me, however, that when we come to consider the reckoning

of longitude in connection with the adoption of a universal day, we

should then make a decided choice in favor of counting longitude from

zero to 360 degrees. If we adopt the resolution which my friend, the

Delegate of the United States, Mr. RUTHERFURD, has offered, it will be

in perfect conformity with the habits of the world. For that reason,

and it is a very strong reason, I think it might be adopted; but a

little consideration will show that if we reckon the longitude from

zero to 360 degrees, east to west, then we will change the existing

practice of reckoning longitude; but, of course, only in one

hemisphere, and that will be eastward of the prime meridian; but, as

we shall all remember, to the eastward of the prime meridian we have

the main portions of the continents of Asia, Europe, and Africa, and

in all the navigable water lying in the other hemisphere the longitude

will continue to be reckoned as now. To navigators of the water lying

to the eastward of the prime meridian there will be a change in the

method of counting longitude both ways, it would be necessary to adopt

two different rules for converting local into universal time.

Prof. ADAMS, Delegate of Great Britain. Oh! no; by no means.

Commander SAMPSON, Delegate of the United States. For although one

rule would answer, by having regard to the algebraical sign affecting

the longitude, it must be remembered that this rule is to be applied

by many who are not accustomed to distinguishing east and west

longitudes by a difference of sign, and who would therefore require

one rule when the longitude is east and another when it is west. If,

however, we adopt the method of reckoning from zero to 360 degrees,

from east to west, the relation existing between the local and the

universal time becomes the simplest possible. To obtain the universal

date and hour, under these circumstances, it only becomes necessary to

add the longitude to the local time, understanding by local time the

local date as well as the local hour. I think, for this reason, it

will be preferable to reckon the longitude in one direction from east

to west, instead of west to east.

Sir FREDERICK EVANS, Delegate of Great Britain. I would like to

present a few words on behalf of seamen. There is clearly an important

change proposed by the amendment. In the resolution before us it is

simply a question of the reckoning of longitude as now employed by

seamen of all nations, and I think it would be well to keep that fact

separate from the reckoning of time.

The PRESIDENT. The Chair begs to state that the discussion is now upon

the amendment of the Delegate of Sweden, Count LEWENHAUPT, to adopt

the fourth resolution of the Congress at Rome.

Sir FREDERICK EVANS, Delegate of Great Britain. Then I consider that,

in the interest of seamen, it would be very undesirable to accept the

amendment. We must recollect that an immense deal of the world's

traffic is carried around the world entirely by sea, and that this

proposed dislocation of the methods of seamen by reckoning longitude

in one direction only would, to say the least, be extremely

inconvenient, and it would require considerable time for them to get

into the habit of doing so. I think, however, that as to the question

of time, there would be no difference of opinion; doubtless, it is the

easier method; but, as we have to look at the practical side of this

calculation of longitude, I must certainly disagree with the amendment

and vote for the original resolution.

Mr. JUAN PASTORIN, Delegate of Spain, then presented the following

amendment:

"_Resolved_, That the Conference proposes to the Governments

here represented that longitude shall be counted from the

prime meridian westward, in the direction opposite to the

terrestrial rotation, and reckoned from zero degrees to 360

degrees, and from zero hours to 24 hours."

The PRESIDENT. The question before the Conference now is the amendment

of the Delegate of Sweden. If the Delegate of Spain desires to offer

his resolution as an amendment to the amendment already offered, the

Chair will place it before the Conference.

Mr. JUAN PASTORIN, Delegate of Spain. I am in accord with the views

expressed by our colleague, Commander SAMPSON, and I propose the

resolution which I have just presented.

Mr. VALERA, the Delegate of Spain. I believe the amendment proposed by

my colleague, Mr. PASTORIN, Delegate of Spain, does not apply to the

amendment of the Delegate of Sweden, but to the original resolution.

In order to avoid all ambiguity it would be much better to discuss

them one after the other. Therefore let us decide the question whether

it is better to count up to 180° in each direction or up to 360°

continuously. Then we can go on to something else.

The PRESIDENT. In order to meet the views expressed by Mr. VALERA, the

Delegate of Spain, Mr. PASTORIN will withdraw his amendment, and the

Delegate of Sweden, Count LEWENHAUPT, will propose the substance of

his original resolution so modified in form that its details may be

considered separately.

Mr. JUAN PASTORIN, Delegate of Spain. In conformity with the statement

of the President, I now withdraw my amendment.

Count LEWENHAUPT, Delegate of Sweden. I beg to offer the following

propositions in the form of amendments to the original resolution

offered by the Delegate of the United States; these may be discussed

in succession:

"1. That from this prime meridian (the Greenwich meridian)

longitude shall be counted in one direction."

"2. That such longitude shall be counted from west to east."

Or, in place of No. 2--

"3. That such longitude shall be counted from east to west."

The PRESIDENT. The Delegates from Sweden and Spain have agreed as to

the first part of the resolution, that longitude shall be counted in

one direction--that is, from zero to 360 degrees. The question before

the Conference is now upon the first clause of the resolution, and the

other two will be subsequently discussed.

General STRACHEY, Delegate of Great Britain. I think it is impossible

to proceed to a vote upon these propositions without bearing in mind

what is to be decided as to the universal day. That day, as it appears

to me, will have to be determined with reference to the initial

meridian in such manner as to prevent, as far as possible,

inconvenience from discontinuity of local time and date in passing

around the world.

No matter how longitude is calculated, you must necessarily arrive at

discontinuity at some point in passing around the great circle of the

earth. It seems to me that the most convenient way of counting both

longitude and time is that the discontinuity in both shall take place

on the same point on the earth. Now, certainly, as was observed at

Rome, it will be far less inconvenient if the discontinuity of date

takes place on the meridian of 180 degrees from Greenwich. Then the

reckoning of local time all around the world, going from west to east

in the direction of the earth's rotation, will be continuous.

In any other way, as far as I can see, there will be a discontinuity

at some point on the inhabited part of the earth. If the

discontinuity were to take place on the meridian of Greenwich, as has

been proposed by the Conference at Rome, the dates will change there

during the daytime. That, as it appears to me, will be extremely

inconvenient.

In order to harmonize what I have called the discontinuity of date

with the discontinuity in the reckoning of longitude, it appears to me

that it will be best to reckon the longitude in both directions. There

will be no discontinuity then except on the 180th meridian. It would

be very inconvenient for a great part of the civilized world if the

resolution which has been offered should be adopted, if, as I presume

it would do, it caused discontinuity both in longitude and local time

in Europe.

After all, what are we here to endeavor to do? Notwithstanding what

has been said in the other direction, for my part I must say that the

great object before us is to secure the greatest convenience of the

whole civilized world, and it seems to me that we should try to obtain

it.

If there is no very strong reason for altering the existing system of

counting longitudes, it appears to me that this is a very excellent

reason in favor of maintaining it. I do not see myself that, for any

practical purpose, anything would be gained by reckoning longitude

from zero to 360 degrees. There may be some special scientific

purposes for which it may be convenient, but the object which this

resolution is intended to meet is of another character.

What we want is longitude for ordinary purposes, and on that hangs the

reckoning of universal time, which, of course, should be for the

general use of the whole world.

Professor ADAMS, Delegate of Great Britain. Mr. President, I doubt

whether I should trouble the Conference in reference to this point. I

think, however, that it is a matter of little importance whether we

consider longitude as positive, when reckoned toward the east, and

negative, when reckoned to the west, or go on in one direction from

zero to 360 degrees; it amounts, mathematically speaking, to the same

thing. We never can consider mathematical lines or angles as positive

in one direction, without implying that in the opposite direction

they are negative. One of these is merely the complement of the other.

For myself, I would say that there is no use in the Conference

resolving that we should count longitude only in the eastwardly

direction. The Conference may say that if longitude is reckoned

towards the east, it shall be considered positive, and, if reckoned

towards the west, negative; and that is all we should say. I do not

think it is within the competence of the Conference to say that

mathematicians shall reckon longitude only in one direction. Whether

you choose to reckon right through to 360 degrees or not is a matter

of detail, and of no importance in a scientific point of view. You can

adopt one style or the other, according to which is found the more

convenient in practice.

Mr. SANDFORD FLEMING, Delegate of Great Britain. I would suggest that

this matter of detail can very well be discussed and arranged by a

committee, otherwise, it may take up the whole time of the Conference.

I move, therefore, that a committee be appointed to take up this

matter and report upon it at the next meeting.

The PRESIDENT. The Chair desires only to carry out the wish of the

Conference, but it does not see clearly what we should gain by a

committee. Still, if it be the desire of the Conference to order a

committee, then the question will arise as to the organization of that

committee, and the Chair would feel some hesitation in appointing it.

Mr. RUTHERFURD, Delegate of the United States. Mr. President, if this

was a new question, in regard to which we had heard no discussion, it

would be eminently proper that we should put it into the hands of a

committee to formalize and thereby to shorten our deliberations; but

it seems to me that the appointment of a committee now would not help

us at all. When the report of that committee came in, we should have

to proceed exactly as we do now.

There are only three questions before the Conference, and they come

within very narrow limits. First, shall we count longitude both ways?

Second, shall we count it all around the 360 degrees? Third, if so, in

which direction is the counting to take place?

These are the only three questions, and, after all, they are questions

of convenience. We are just as capable of voting upon these

propositions now as we should be after the appointment of a committee.

Baron VON SCHÆFFER, Delegate of Austria-Hungary. Mr. President, I move

that we adjourn until to-morrow at one o'clock P.M.

The question upon the motion to adjourn was then put and adopted, and

the Conference accordingly adjourned at 3.45 P.M. until Tuesday, the

14th inst., at one o'clock P.M.

V.

SESSION OF OCTOBER 14, 1884.

The Conference met, pursuant to adjournment, in the Diplomatic Hall of

the Department of State, at one o'clock p. m.

Present:

Austro-Hungary: Baron IGNATZ VON SCHÆFFER.

Brazil: Dr. LUIZ CRULS.

Chili: Mr. F. V. GORMAS and Mr. S. R. FRANKLIN.

Costa Rica: Mr. JUAN FRANCISCO ECHEVERRIA.

France: Mr. A. LEFAIVRE, Mr. JANSSEN.

Germany: Baron H. VON ALVENSLEBEN, Mr. HINCKELDEYN.

Great Britain: Sir F. J. O. EVANS, Prof. J. O. ADAMS,

Lieut.-General STRACHEY, Mr. SANDFORD FLEMING.

Guatemala: Mr. MILES ROCK.

Hawaii: Hon. W. D. ALEXANDER, Hon. LUTHER AHOLO.

Italy: Count ALBERT DE FORESTA.

Japan: Professor KIKUCHI.

Liberia: Mr. Wm. COPPINGER.

Mexico: Mr. LEANDRO FERNANDEZ, Mr. ANGEL ANGUIANO.

Netherlands: Mr. G. DE WECKHERLIN.

Paraguay: Capt. JOHN STEWART.

Russia: Mr. C. DE STRUVE, Major-General STEBNITZKI, Mr.

KOLOGRIVOFF.

San Domingo: Mr. DE J. GALVAN.

Salvador: Mr. ATONIO BATRES.

Spain: Mr. JUAN VALERA, Mr. EMILO RUIZ DEL ARBOL, Mr.

JUAN PASTORIN.

Sweden: Count CARL LEWENHAUPT.

Switzerland: Mr. EMILE FREY.

Turkey: RUSTEM EFFENDI.

United States: Rear-Admiral C. R. P. RODGERS, Mr. LEWIS

M. RUTHERFURD, Mr. W. F. ALLEN, Commander W. T.

SAMPSON, Professor CLEVELAND ABBE.

Venezuela: Señor Dr. A. M. SOTELDO.

Absent:

Denmark: Mr. C. S. A. DE BILLE.

The PRESIDENT:

The Chair begs leave to announce that, in the regular order of

business, the first matter before the Conference to-day would have

been the proposition of the Delegate of Great Britain, Mr. SANDFORD

FLEMING, that a committee be appointed to consider a report upon the

resolution offered by him yesterday. The Chair understood, however,

from Mr. FLEMING this morning that he had no desire to press that

proposition, and, therefore, it may be considered as withdrawn.

The question then would be upon the amendment offered by the Delegate

of Spain, Mr. JUAN PASTORIN, and if that amendment be withdrawn upon

the amendment offered by the Delegate of Sweden, Count LEWENHAUPT. The

Chair understands that both of those gentlemen desire to withdraw

their propositions temporarily, and, in that event, the first action

to be taken will be upon the resolution offered by the Delegate of the

United States, Mr. RUTHERFURD.

Mr. RUSTEM EFFENDI, Delegate of Turkey. In voting yesterday in favor

of the resolutions proposed by the Hon. Delegate of the United States,

I wish to have it well understood that my vote does not bind my

Government. I am, indeed, obliged to vote against any proposition

which would tend to bind it in any way, for I desire to leave it free

to act in the matter.

I engage to submit to my Government the result of our deliberations

and to recommend their adoption, but that is all. In other words, I

have only voted "_ad referendum_," and I ask that my statement be

entered in the protocol.

The PRESIDENT. The Chair would inform the Delegate who has just

spoken that the same statement was made by several delegates at a

former meeting of the Conference.

M. JANSSEN, Delegate of France. I believe that the very correct

doctrine just enunciated by the Delegate of Turkey, Mr. RUSTEM

EFFENDI, is the one adopted by all the members of the Congress, and

that we have all voted "_ad referendum_."

The PRESIDENT. The Chair so understood the general sense of the

Conference as expressed at one of our former meetings, when many of

the delegates made the same declaration.

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