Mrs. PAINE. No.
Mr. JENNER. Or any covering, any package, that looked as though it
might have a weapon, pistol, or firearm?
Mrs. PAINE. No.
Mr. JENNER. Up to this moment, Mrs. Paine, had there been any
discussion with Marina or with Lee Harvey Oswald in connection with his
life in Russia with the use of a firearm or his right to use one in
Russia?
Mrs. PAINE. I never heard him mention anything of this sort. Michael
told me later he mentioned it to Michael.
Mr. McCLOY. State that, please.
Mrs. PAINE. Michael told me later that Lee had complained in Michael's
hearing that they did not permit a private individual to have a gun,
but I didn't hear that when it was said. So there was no discussion at
any time that mentioned guns, nothing brought up by Marina or Lee.
Mr. JENNER. I will broaden my question. Up to--now up to, and not
including, up to November 22, 1963, had there ever been any discussion
between you and Lee Harvey Oswald or between you and Marina or any
discussion in the presence of either of them by anybody, including
yourself, about the use of a firearm by Lee Harvey Oswald?
Mrs. PAINE. Yes. Marina told me that he had been hunting in the Soviet
Union.
Mr. JENNER. Now, please, to the best of your recollection when did that
occur?
Mrs. PAINE. When did she tell me?
Mr. JENNER. Yes.
Mrs. PAINE. It might have been as long ago as May, when she was first
staying at my house. She quoted a proverb to the effect that you go
hunting in the Soviet Union and you catch a bottle of vodka, so I judge
it was a social occasion more than shooting being the prime object.
Mr. JENNER. That was in this period when she was living with you in the
spring of 1963?
Mrs. PAINE. It could have been there. It might have been in October,
but I would guess it was in May.
Mr. JENNER. I wish you would elaborate on that.
Mrs. PAINE. I wish I wouldn't guess, I know.
Mr. JENNER. Did she say that Lee Harvey Oswald had some kind of a
firearm in Russia?
Mrs. PAINE. That he had gone hunting with a group, in other words, in
Russia.