Does anybody else have any questions to ask? Do you have any questions?
Mr. BALL. Mr. Frazier, we have here this Exhibit No. 364 which is a
sack and in that we have put a dismantled gun. Don't pay any attention
to that. Will you stand up here and put this under your arm and then
take hold of it at the side?
Now, is that anywhere near similar to the way that Oswald carried the
package?
Mr. FRAZIER. Well, you know, like I said now, I said I didn't pay much
attention----
Mr. BALL. Turn around.
Mr. FRAZIER. I didn't pay much attention, but when I did, I say, he had
this part down here, like the bottom would be short he had cupped in
his hand like that and, say, like walking from the back if you had a
big arm jacket there you wouldn't tell much from a package back there,
the physical features. If you could see it from the front like when you
walk and meet somebody you could tell about the package, but walking
from behind you couldn't tell much about the package whatsoever about
the width. But he didn't carry it from the back. If this package were
shorter he would have it cupped in his hands.
The CHAIRMAN. Could he have had the top of it behind his shoulder, or
are you sure it was cupped under his shoulder there?
Mr. FRAZIER. Yes; because the way it looked, you know, like I say, he
had it cupped in his hand.
The CHAIRMAN. I beg your pardon?
Mr. FRAZIER. I said from where I noticed he had it cupped in his hands.
And I don't see how you could have it anywhere other than under your
armpit because if you had it cupped in your hand it would stick over it.
Mr. BALL. Could he have carried it this way?
Mr. FRAZIER. No, sir. Never in front here. Like that. Now, that is what
I was talking to you about. No, I say he couldn't because if he had you
would have seen the package sticking up like that.
From what I seen walking behind he had it under his arm and you
couldn't tell that he had a package from the back.
Mr. BALL. When you cupped the bottom of your package in the hands, will
you stand up, again, please, and the upper part of the package is not
under the armpit, the top of the package extends almost up to the level
of your ear.
Mr. FRAZIER. Right.
Mr. BALL. Or your eye level, and when you put the package under your
armpit, the upper part of the package, and take a hold of the side of
it with your right hand, it extends on approximately about 8 inches,
about the span of my hand, more than 8 inches, 8, 10 inches.