Platt said very impulsively: "Roosevelt will be nominated."

When the State convention met to nominate a State ticket, I was

selected to present the name of Colonel Roosevelt as a candidate

for governor. I have done that a great many times in conventions,

but have never had such a response. As I went on reciting the

achievements of Roosevelt, his career, his accomplishments, and

his great promise, the convention went wild with enthusiasm.

It was plain that no mistake had been made in selecting him as

the candidate.

During the campaign he made one of the most picturesque canvasses

the State has ever experienced. He was accompanied in his travels

by a large staff of orators, but easily dominated the situation

and carried the audience with him. He was greatly amused at a

meeting where one of his Rough Riders, who was in the company,

insisted upon making a speech. The Rough Rider said: "My friends

and fellow citizens, my colonel was a great soldier. He will make

a great governor. He always put us boys in battle where we would be

killed if there was a chance, and that is what he will do with you."

Roosevelt as governor was, as always, most original. New York

was an organization State, with Mr. Platt as leader, and with

county leaders of unusual ability and strength. Governors had

been accustomed to rely upon the organization both for advice

and support. Roosevelt could not bear any kind of control. He

sought advice in every direction and then made up his mind. This

brought him often in conflict with local leaders and sometimes

with the general organization.

On one occasion the State chairman, who was always accustomed

to be in Albany during the closing day of the legislature, to prevent

in the haste and confusion, characteristic of legislation at this

time, the passage of bad or unpopular measures, bade the governor

good-by at midnight, as the legislature was to adjourn the following

day with the understanding that lawmaking was practically over.

A large real-estate delegation arrived the next morning, with

the usual desire to relieve real-estate from taxation by putting

it somewhere else. They came with a proposition to place new

burdens upon public utilities. It was too late to formulate and

introduce a measure on a question so important, but there was

a bill which had been in the legislature most of the session and

never received serious consideration. The governor sent an

emergency message to the legislature, which had remaining only

one hour of life to pass that bill.

Next day the tremendous interest in public utilities was

panic-stricken because the bill was so crude that it amounted

to confiscation. The governor, when applied to, said: "Yes,

I know that the bill is very crude and unfit to become a law, but

legislation on this subject is absolutely necessary. I will do

this: I have thirty days before I must make up my mind to sign

the bill, or let it become a law without my signature. Within

that thirty days I will call the legislature together again. Then

you can prepare and submit to me a proper bill, and if we can

agree upon it, I will present it to the legislature. If the

legislature passes that measure I will sign it, but if it does

not, I will let the present measure, bad as it is, become a law."

The result of the threat was that a very good and timely act was

presented in regard to the taxation of public utilities, a measure

which largely increased municipal and State revenues. I know

of no governor in my time who would have had the originality and

the audacity to accomplish what he desired by such drastic operation.

Roosevelt's administration was high-minded and patriotic. But by

his exercise of independent judgment and frequently by doing

things without consulting the leaders, State or local, he became

exceedingly unpopular with the organization. It was evident that

it would be very difficult to renominate him. It was also evident

that on account of his popularity with the people, if he failed

in the renomination, the party would be beaten. So it was unanimously

decided to put him on the national ticket as vice-president.

The governor resisted this with all his passionate energy. He

liked the governorship. He thought there were many things which

he could do in another term, and he believed and so stated that

the vice-presidency was a tomb. He thought that nobody could be

resurrected when once buried in that sarcophagus.

The national Republican convention of 1900 was a ratification

meeting. President McKinley's administration had been exceedingly

popular. The convention met practically to indorse McKinley's

public acts and renominate him for another term. The only doubtful

question was the vice-presidency. There was a general accord

of sentiment in favor of Governor Roosevelt, which was only

blocked by his persistent refusal.

Roosevelt and I were both delegates at large, and that position

gave him greater opportunity to emphasize his disinclination.

A very intimate friend of his called upon me and begged that

I would use all my influence to prevent the colonel's nomination.

This friend said to me: "The governor's situation, officially and

personally, makes it impossible for him to go to Washington. On

the official side are his unfinished legislation and the new

legislation greatly needed by the State, which will add enormously

to his reputation and pave the way for his future. He has very

little means. As governor his salary is ample. The Executive Mansion

is free, with many contributory advantages, and the schools of

Albany admirable for the education of his six children. While in

Washington the salary of vice-president is wholly inadequate to

support the dignity of the position, and it is the end of a young

man of a most promising career."

I knew what the friend did not know, and it was that Mr. Roosevelt

could not be governor again. I was so warmly attached to him and

so anxious for his future that I felt it was my duty to force his

nomination if possible.

Governor Odell was chairman of the delegation for all convention

purposes, but in the distribution of honors I was made the presiding

officer at its meetings. The delegation met to consider the

vice-presidency. Several very eloquent speeches were made in

favor of Mr. Roosevelt, but in an emphatic address he declined

the nomination. He then received a unanimous vote, but again

declined. A delegate then arose and suggested that he reconsider

his determination, and several others joined most earnestly in

this request. Roosevelt was deeply affected, but, nevertheless,

firmly declined.

I knew there was a member of the delegation who had canvassed it

to secure the honor in case Roosevelt became impossible, and that

the next motion would be the nomination of this aspirant. So I

abruptly declared the meeting adjourned. I did this in the hope

that during the night, with the pressure brought to bear upon him,

the colonel would change his mind. In the morning Mr. Roosevelt

surrendered his convictions and agreed to accept the nomination.

In every convention there is a large number of men prominent in

their several delegations who wish to secure general attention

and publicity. As there were no disputes as to either candidate

or platform, these gentlemen all became anxious to make speeches

favoring the candidates, McKinley and Roosevelt. There were so

many of these speeches which, of course, were largely repetitions,

that the convention became wearied and impatient. The last few

were not heard at all on account of the confusion and impatience

of the delegates. While one orator was droning away, a delegation

from a Western State came over to me and said: "We in the extreme

West have never heard you speak, and won't you oblige us by

taking the platform?"

I answered: "The audience will not stand another address."

Roosevelt, who sat right in front of me, then remarked: "Yes, they

will from you. These speeches have pretty nearly killed the ticket,

and if it keeps up, the election is over, and McKinley and I are

dead." He then seized me and almost threw me on the platform.

The novelty of the situation, which was grasped by the delegates,

commanded attention. I recalled what Mr. Lincoln had once said

to me, defending his frequent use of anecdotes, and this is what

he said: "Plain people, take them as you find them, are more

easily influenced through the medium of a broad and humorous

illustration than in any other way."

I had heard a new story, a rare thing, and began with the narration

of it. Alongside the chairman sat Senator Thurston. He was

a fine speaker, very ornate and highly rhetorical. He never

indulged in humor or unbent his dignity and formality. I heard

him say in a sepulchral voice to the chairman: "Great God, sir,

the dignity and solemnity of this most important and historical

occasion is to be ruined by a story." Happily the story was a

success and gave the wearied audience two opportunities to hear

my speech. Their laughter was internal relief, and it was giving

the external relief of changing their positions for new and more

restful ones.

My friend, John M. Thurston, came to Philadelphia with a most

elaborate and excellent oration. Sitting in the audience on three

different occasions, I heard it with as much pleasure the last

time as I had the first.

When Mr. Roosevelt as vice-president came to preside over the

Senate, it was soon evident that he would not be a success. His

talents were executive and administrative. The position of the

presiding officer of the United States Senate is at once easy and

difficult. The Senate desires impartiality, equable temper, and

knowledge of parliamentary law from its presiding officer. But it

will not submit to any attempt on the part of the presiding officer

to direct or advise it, and will instantly resent any arbitrary

ruling. Of course, Mr. Roosevelt presided only at a few meetings

before the final adjournment. When Congress met again he was

President of the United States.

Senators and members soon found that there was a change at the

White House. No two men were ever so radically different in every

respect as McKinley and Roosevelt. Roosevelt loved to see the

people in a mass and rarely cared for private or confidential

interviews. He was most hospitable and constantly bringing visitors

to luncheon when the morning meetings in the executive offices had

closed, and he had not had a full opportunity to hear or see them.

Senator Hanna was accustomed to have a few of his colleagues of

the Senate dine with him frequently, in order to consult on more

effective action upon pending measures. President Roosevelt,

who knew everything that was going on, often burst into Hanna's

house after dinner and with the utmost frankness submitted the

problems which had arisen at the White House, and upon which he

wished advice or, if not advice, support--more frequently support.

Any one who attended the morning conferences, where he saw senators

and members of the House, and the public, was quite sure to be

entertained. I remember on one occasion I had been requested by

several friends of his, men of influence and prominence in New York,

to ask for the appointment of minister to a foreign government for

a journalist of some eminence. When I entered the Cabinet room

it was crowded, and the president knew that I was far from well,

so he at once called my name, asked how I was and what I wanted.

I told him that I had to leave Washington that day on the advice

of my doctor for a rest, and what I wanted was to present the name

of a gentleman for appointment as a minister, if I could see

him for five minutes.

The president exclaimed: "We have no secrets here. Tell it

right out." I then stated the case. He asked who was behind

the applicant. I told him. Then he said, "Yes, that's all right,"

to each one until I mentioned also the staff of the gentleman's

newspaper, which was one of the most prominent and powerful in

the country but a merciless critic of the president. He shouted

at once: "That settles it. Nothing which that paper wishes will

receive any consideration from me." Singularly enough, the paper

subsequently became one of his ardent advocates and supporters.

On another occasion I was entering his private office as another

senator was coming out of the Cabinet room, which was filled.

He called out: "Senator Depew, do you know that man going out?"

I answered: "Yes, he is a colleague of mine in the Senate."

"Well," he shouted, "he is a crook." His judgment subsequently

proved correct.

Mr. Roosevelt and his wife were all their lives in the social life

of the old families of New York who were admitted leaders. They

carried to the White House the culture and conventions of what

is called the best society of the great capitals of the world.

This experience and education came to a couple who were most

democratic in their views. They loved to see people and met and

entertained every one with delightful hospitality.

Roosevelt was a marvel of many-sidedness. Besides being an

executive as governor of a great State and administrator as

civil-service commissioner and police commissioner of New York,

he was an author of popular books and a field naturalist of rare

acquirements. He was also a wonderful athlete. I often had

occasion to see him upon urgent matters, and was summoned to his

gymnasium, where he was having a boxing match with a well-known

pugilist, and getting the better of his antagonist, or else

launching at his fencing master. The athletics would cease, to

be resumed as soon as he had in his quick and direct way disposed

of what I presented.

Horseback riding was a favorite exercise with him, and his experience

on his Western ranch and in the army had made him one of the best

riders in the world. The foreign diplomats in Washington, with

their education that their first duty was to be in close touch with

the chief magistrate, whether czar, queen, king, or president,

found their training unequal to keeping close to President Roosevelt,

except one, and he told me with great pleasure that though a poor

rider he joined the president in his horseback morning excursions.

Sometimes, he said, when they came to a very steep, high, and

rough hill the president would shout, "Let us climb to the top,"

and the diplomat would struggle over the stones, the underbrush

and gullies, and return to his horse with torn garments after

sliding down the hill. At another time, when on the banks of

the Potomac, where the waters were raging rapids the president

said, "We will go to that island in the middle of the river," and

immediately plunge in. The diplomat followed and reached the

island after wading and swimming, and with great difficulty returned

with sufficient strength to reach home. He had an attack of

pneumonia from this unusual exposure, but thereafter was the envy

and admiration of his colleagues and increased the confidence of

his own government by this intimacy with the president.

The president's dinners and luncheons were unique because of his

universal acquaintance with literary and scientific people. There

were generally some of them present. His infectious enthusiasm

and hearty cordiality drew out the best points of each guest.

I was present at a large dinner one evening when an instance

occurred which greatly amused him. There were some forty guests.

When they were seated, the president noticed four vacant chairs.

He sent one of his aides to ascertain the trouble. The aide

discovered an elderly senator standing with his wife, and another

senator and a lady looking very disconsolate. The aged senator

refused to take out a lady as his card directed or leave his wife

to a colleague. He said to the president's aide, who told him

that dinner was waiting and what he had to do: "When I eat I eat

with my wife, or I don't eat at all." The old gentleman had his way.

The president had one story which he told often and with much glee.

While he was on the ranch the neighbors had caught a horse thief

and hung him. They soon discovered that they had made a mistake

and hung the wrong man. The most diplomatic among the ranchers

was selected to take the body home and break the news gently to

his wife. The cowboy ambassador asked the wife: "Are you the

wife of ----?" She answered "Yes." "Well," said the ambassador,

"you are mistaken. You are his widow. I have his body in the

wagon. You need not feel bad about it, because we hung him

thinking he was the horse thief. We soon after found that he was

innocent. The joke is on us."

Mr. Roosevelt was intensely human and rarely tried to conceal

his feelings. He was to address the New York State Fair at

Syracuse. The management invited me as a United States Senator

from New York to be present. There were at least twenty thousand

on the fair ground, and Mr. Roosevelt read his speech, which he

had elaborately prepared, detailing his scheme for harmonizing

the relations between labor and capital. The speech was long and

very able and intended for publication all over the country. But

his audience, who were farmers, were not much interested in the

subject. Besides, they had been wearied wandering around the

grounds and doing the exhibits, waiting for the meeting to begin.

I know of nothing so wearisome to mind and body as to spend hours

going through the exhibits of a great fair. When the president

finished, the audience began calling for me. I was known practically

to every one of them from my long career on the platform.

Knowing Roosevelt as I did, I was determined not to speak, but

the fair management and the audience would not be denied. I paid

the proper compliments to the president, and then, knowing that

humor was the only possible thing with such a tired crowd, I had

a rollicking good time with them. They entered into the spirit of

the fun and responded in a most uproarious way. I heard Roosevelt

turn to the president of the fair and say very angrily: "You

promised me, sir, that there would be no other speaker."

When I met the president that evening at a large dinner given

by Senator Frank Hiscock, he greeted me with the utmost cordiality.

He was in fine form, and early in the dinner took entire charge

of the discussion. For three hours he talked most interestingly,

and no one else contributed a word. Nevertheless, we all enjoyed

the evening, and not the least the president himself.

I used to wonder how he found time, with his great activities and

engagements, to read so much. Publishers frequently send me

new books. If I thought they would interest him I mentioned

the work to him, but invariably he had already read it.

When my first term as senator expired and the question of my

re-election was before the legislature, President Roosevelt gave

me his most cordial and hearty support.

Events to his credit as president, which will be monuments in

history, are extraordinary in number and importance. To mention

only a few: He placed the Monroe Doctrine before European

governments upon an impregnable basis by his defiance to the

German Kaiser, when he refused to accept arbitration and was

determined to make war on Venezuela. The president cabled:

"Admiral Dewey with the Atlantic Fleet sails to-morrow." And

the Kaiser accepted arbitration. Raissuli, the Moroccan bandit,

who had seized and held for ransom an American citizen named

Perdicaris, gave up his captive on receipt of this cable:

"Perdicaris alive or Raissuli dead." He settled the war between

Russia and Japan and won the Nobel prize for peace.

Roosevelt built the Panama Canal when other efforts had failed

for five hundred years. As senator from his own State, I was in

constant consultation with him while he was urging legislation

necessary to secure the concession for the construction of the

canal. The difficulties to be overcome in both Houses seemed

insurmountable, and would have been so except for the marvellous

resourcefulness and power of the president.

When the Republican convention met in 1908, I was again delegate

at large. It was a Roosevelt convention and crazy to have him

renominated. It believed that he could overcome the popular

feeling against a third term. Roosevelt did not think so. He

believed that in order to make a third term palatable there must

be an interval of another and different administration. When

the convention found that his decision was unalterably not to

accept the nomination himself, it was prepared to accept any one

he might advise. He selected his secretary of war and most

intimate friend, William Howard Taft. Taft had a delightful

personality, and won distinction upon the bench, and had proved

an admirable administrator as governor of the Philippine Islands.

After Mr. Taft's election the president, in order that the new

president and his administration might not be embarrassed by his

presence and prestige, went on a two years' trip abroad.

During that trip he was more in the popular mind at home and

abroad than almost any one in the world. If he reviewed the German

army with the Kaiser, the press was full of the common characteristics

and differences between the two men and of the unprecedented

event of the guest giving advice to the Kaiser.

When he visited England he told in a public speech of his experience

in Egypt, and recommended to the English Government that, if they

expected to continue to govern Egypt, to begin to govern it.

All France was aghast and then hilarious when, in an address before

the faculties of Sorbonne, he struck at once at the weak point of

the future and power of France, and that was race suicide.

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