EXTRACT FROM THE TESTIMONY OF DEFENDANT MRUGOWSKY[73]

_DIRECT EXAMINATION_

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DR. FLEMMING: Now, I come to the incendiary bomb experiments. Dr. Kogon

during his testimony frequently spoke of an experiment by Dr. Ding with

a phosphorus-caoutchouc incendiary bomb, and he said that you ordered

this experiment.

DEFENDANT MRUGOWSKY: I did not know who ordered this experiment. I found

out about it only from the report which was drawn up after the

experiment had been terminated. This report has been put in evidence

here as a document. From this it can be seen that animal experiments

were also carried out. I assume that these were not performed in Block

46, but in Block 50, which was under my supervision. I went with the

report to Grawitz and asked him if he knew any more about this matter. I

asked him if I was correct in my assumption that some of the experiments

took place in Block 50 and if so, to tell Dr. Ding in future to confine

himself to his Block 46 in such matters, which was directly under

Grawitz. Grawitz answered thereupon that it did not make any difference

one way or the other, and I should not be so fussy. I also know that

after a few weeks Ding was looking for this report and called me up and

asked me if I had it. I no longer had it at that time as I had given it

to Grawitz, and it was in his files where it belonged.

Q. Kogon also testified that the experimental subjects had suffered

serious pain and had incurred wounds from 2 to 2.5 centimeters deep,

which led to the formation of extensive scars. I show you now Document

NO-579, Prosecution Exhibit 288 and ask you to comment on this document

and Dr. Kogon’s testimony?

(The document is handed to the witness.)

A. The first part of this document deals with the rabbit experiments. In

the second part, however, there are pictures of experiments on human

beings. These pictures show the place on the arm where the experiment

was made. Kogon said that this burning was done in such a way that the

mass of phosphorus was burning for quite awhile. The document, however,

proves exactly the contrary. The length of time during which the matter

was burning was not long, but the period between the time when the

mixture was applied and the time it was ignited was long; that is

possibly the reason for this misunderstanding. Moreover in the

description of the individual cases, it can be seen that already on 29

December, in other words four days after the experiment, the burn was

almost healed, or had greatly reduced in size. In one case there was

still an open wound of 0.5 centimeter but there is no mention anywhere

of any deeper wounds, but only of purely superficial epidermal wounds.

There is constant mention of the fact that the wounds healed over nicely

and in some cases the wound was completely healed four days after the

experiments. Wounds 2½ centimeters deep, or large scars could not have

occurred and that testimony of Kogon is false. In this case let me point

out that he was not speaking from his own knowledge. During the first

discussion of these incendiary bomb experiments, he said he had seen the

experimental subjects, and then in the same interrogation he later says

this was not the case. In other words, he is reporting what he has heard

and not what he knows at first hand.

Q. I am submitting to the Tribunal Mrugowsky 56, and it will be

Mrugowsky Exhibit 50. I should like to read from page two:

“Treatment of phosphorus burns with ‘R 17.’

“The dropping of phosphorus incendiary bombs made it necessary

to find an adequate method of treatment. As the copper-sulphate

solution hitherto in use did not give satisfactory results, the

firm of Dr. Madaus in Dresden looked for a different solvent and

produced a liquid carbon tetrachloride which was called ‘R 17.’

The efficacy of R 17 had been proved by means of experiments on

rabbits carried out by the firm of Dr. Madaus.

“After the completion of these rabbit tests, Dr. Madaus asked

the Higher SS and Police Leader von Woyrsch, Dresden, to come

and see the tests. As my emergency office was in the building of

Gruppenfuehrer von Woyrsch, he asked me to accompany him to the

firm of Madaus in my capacity as a doctor and to watch these

tests. That was in the autumn of 1943. At the request of

Gruppenfuehrer von Woyrsch and the firm of Madaus, I reported to

the Reich Physician SS and Police the results achieved by the

firm of Madaus in the treatment of phosphorus burns and

suggested that the drug R 17 be made known to the air-raid

precaution dispensaries. Grawitz promised to have another test

made.

“Some time afterward he sent Dr. Ding to Dresden for this

purpose in his capacity as health expert, and instructed me to

make arrangements for Ding to see the results achieved there, by

the firm of Madaus, with R 17. I arranged this. Ding came to

Dresden and saw the above-mentioned tests in my presence, on the

premises of the Madaus firm. Afterward he declared that, on the

orders of the Reich Physician SS in Buchenwald, he would also

test the efficacy of the drug on rabbits. He requested the firm

of Madaus to put the drug R 17 at his disposal. Immediately

after inspecting the firm of Madaus he left Dresden.

“I also know that Dr. Ding asked the office of the Higher SS and

Police Leader to procure for him the filling of an English

incendiary bomb, which as far as I know was done through the

Commissioner of the Police of Leipzig. Dr. Ding had the drug R

17 and the incendiary bomb collected.

“I also know that Ding made a report on his experiments. I know

this because Dr. Ding asked my office in Dresden several times,

in writing and by telephone, if they had this report, as he

could not find it. It was supposed to be a report with

photographs. I do not know if the report went through my office,

as I was in Dresden only one day a week. At the time when Ding

was looking for the report it was not in my office. I assume,

therefore, that he sent it direct to the firm of Madaus, as they

were interested in the results of his test.

“When, after a considerable time, I still had not heard from the

Reich Physician whether the drug R 17 was to be made known to

the air-raid precaution dispensaries, I asked the Reich

Physician about it at a meeting. He then declared that the drug

would not be introduced, as it only possessed

phosphorus-dissolving properties, but did not directly

contribute to the healing of the burns. However, a drug was in

preparation elsewhere that combined both qualities and this

would be introduced.”

I submit further the last paragraph of Dr. Morgen’s affidavit.

(_Mrugowsky 23, Mrugowsky Ex. 26._) Dr. Morgen says here:

“While I was making observations in Block 46 I paid repeated

surprise visits in order to inspect the running of the Block.

Once, when I paid a surprise visit to Block 46, examinations on

the treatment of wounds caused by phosphorus incendiaries were

being carried out.

“As I arrived a big strong prisoner came into the room laughing.

On each of his two upper arms there were applied on a space

about 1 centimeter wide and 5 centimeters long, some parts of

the contents of a phosphorus incendiary bomb. These spots on

both upper arms were treated with various ointments. During the

discussion with Dr. Ding I was informed that the experimental

persons volunteered for the experiment. They received the diet

for sick persons, a packet of cigarettes, and for one month they

did not have to work. In the case of the inmate whose treatment

I witnessed by chance, I had the definite impression that he was

a volunteer.”

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[71] United States _vs._ Oswald Pohl, et al. See Vol. V.

[72] Complete testimony is recorded in mimeographed transcript, 6, 7, 8

Jan 1947, pp. 1150-1290.

[73] Complete testimony is recorded in mimeographed transcript, 27, 28,

31 March and 2, 3 April 1947, pp. 5000-5244, 5334-5464.

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