Book 6, Page 473, a letter from Raeder to Admiral Böhm of 23 October

1942. Raeder writes:

“To my regret I have to send you enclosed, for your personal

information, a letter from Reich Minister Dr. Lammers to Prime

Minister Quisling.”

On Page 476 there is the letter from Lammers to Quisling which says—I

quote only one sentence:

“The Führer, therefore, desires that during the war there shall

be no conferences or discussions concerning a final or a

preliminary peace between the Greater German Reich and Norway,

or concerning other measures fixing or anticipating Norway’s

position to the Reich after the end of the war.”

This is the letter which the witness mentioned, which finally brought to

nought all his endeavors and those of Admiral Böhm.

Admiral, you had little to do with France, and therefore we can be very

brief. May I merely ask you, did you attempt at any time to influence

the political relations between Germany and France?

RAEDER: This influence, when there was any, was in the first place

directed as much as possible towards improving the defense of the

country. In the second place, there were above all humanitarian reasons.

I often visited naval and submarine bases in France. During these

journeys I got some knowledge of conditions in France. I saw that in

1940 and still in 1941 the population lived just as if it were at peace,

completely undisturbed. Consequently I believed, since the Führer had

shown so much moderation on the occasion of the Armistice, that a basis

could be found which would draw France—whose government was after all

collaborationist—closer to us.

I was informed that Laval was really sincere in his opinion that only

co-operation between France and Germany could guarantee a lasting peace

in Europe for the future. Therefore I suggested to him whether he

himself could not try to do something in that direction. He did not

intend to do this, and I referred to it again when I heard that Admiral

Darlan was trying to work more closely with our naval commander in

France, Admiral Schultze. That was first achieved in the field of

intelligence, where his services were very useful to us.

At the end of the year 1941 he mentioned that he would like to speak to

me. Admiral Schultze reported that to me and I told Hitler about it and

recommended such a conversation because I thought Lt would do some good.

DR. SIEMERS: It would do what?

RAEDER: That it might bring some advantage. The Führer approved this

meeting and instructed me as to his views. The meeting took place near

Paris on the occasion of an official trip which I made to the French

bases at the end of January or beginning of February 1942. I had the

impression that the meeting was very satisfactory, inasmuch as Darlan

was of the opinion that a peace would be of advantage to both nations

and he also appeared to be inclined to co-operate. He stressed, however,

that the whole political situation would have to be settled before peace

could be concluded. I also showed that I was prepared to meet him

concerning the negotiations with the Armistice Commission with respect

to heavy guns for big French ships. I reported to the Führer on the

results of the meeting. But in this case too the Führer was again

hesitant and did not want to make a decision. He said he had to see

first how the war went before he could decide upon his final attitude

toward France. Besides, that would be a precedent which might have an

effect on other nations. So that also was a failure. I did not obtain

the relief in the defense of France which I had hoped for and so, in the

case of France, this failure was the second reason which contributed

later to my asking for my release, because I could not carry my plans

through.

DR. SIEMERS: Now I come to the next subject where accusations are made

against you, and that is Russia. When did you hear for the first time

that Hitler intended to wage war against Russia, although he had

concluded a Nonaggression Pact with Russia?

RAEDER: May I first remind you that in the summer of 1940, that is to

say, July, August, and September, we in the Navy were very much occupied

with preparations for a landing in England; therefore it never entered

our heads that there could be any plans for action in another direction.

In August I heard from some Army office, possibly that of the

Commander-in-Chief, that considerable troop transports were going to the

East. I asked Hitler what that meant and he told me it was a grandiose

camouflage for his intentions to invade England. He knew that I would be

against it right away if he were to speak about an enterprise against

Russia. In September—I cannot recall the date exactly—he finally

admitted to me that he had certain intentions against Russia. In

September I reported to him at least twice, my more important report was

26 September, when I did everything I could to dissuade him from any

undertaking against Russia. In that report which I made in the presence

of Field Marshal Keitel and Colonel General Jodl I emphasized

particularly the strategic military side; first, because I could do that

in all clarity in the presence of other people, and then because I

assumed that such military reasons, that is, the possibility of failure

of an operation against Russia at a time when the struggle was on

against England, would impress him and dissuade him from that plan. On

26 September, after making this official report, I asked for a personal

conference alone with Hitler. Keitel and Jodl can testify that I always

did this when I wanted to discuss something particularly important with

the Führer, where I had to go beyond the conventional procedure and

which I could only do if nobody else was present. One could tell Hitler

a lot of things if one was alone with him, but one could not make any

such statements in a larger group. Field Marshal Keitel and Colonel

General Jodl know that very well, particularly well, because they were

the ones who in such cases always had to leave the room. On that

occasion I gave Hitler my views in detail; first, that it was not

possible to break the pact with Russia, that it would be morally wrong,

that it would serve no purpose because the pact gave us great advantages

and was a basis for a sound policy for Germany later on. Then I told him

that under no circumstances could he start a two-front war, as it was he

who had always emphasized that he would not repeat the stupidity of the

government of 1914 and that, in my opinion, it could never be justified.

Then I put to him again the difference of the forces on each side, the

absolute necessity for the Navy to concentrate on the war against

England and particularly at that moment when all resources were strained

to the utmost to carry out the invasion.

On that day I had the impression that Hitler was inclined to listen to

my argument because later, or the next day, the naval adjutant, Kapitän

Von Puttkamer, reported to me that Hitler had spoken in very much the

same vein as I had spoken, and had appreciated my argument.

That went on for several months. I presented many such reports,

returning always with the same arguments. I believed again in November

that I had been successful. To my utter surprise, however, on 18

December, Directive Number 21 (Barbarossa) came out, which dealt with

the case of a war with the Soviet Union before the termination of the

war against England. It is true, of course, that it was a directive for

an eventuality. It is Document 446-PS, USA-31, of 18 December 1940.

DR. SIEMERS: Mr. President, that is in Document Book 10a, Page 247.

[_Turning to the defendant._] Admiral, the Prosecution asserted that the

Navy and you assisted in drawing up this directive. Is that correct?

RAEDER: That is in no way correct. Such directives were drafted in the

OKW after the Führer had taken his political decision, in the Armed

Forces Operations Staff; and in that Armed Forces Operations Staff there

was also one naval officer and one or more Air Force officers who, under

the Chief of the Armed Forces Operations Staff, dealt with matters

concerning the Navy and Air Force when such directives were being

drafted. The directive then went to the Commanders-in-Chief of the Armed

Forces and they were ordered, for their part, to work out and present

suggestions for the execution of the orders of the Führer. They had no

influence on the directive itself and did not see it at all beforehand.

May I add one more thing? I have been accused by the Prosecution that I

used my influence with the Führer not for moral and ethical reasons but

that I tried in a cynical way first to settle the account with England

and then to assail Russia. I have said before that I told all my reasons

to the Führer whenever I had the chance, but that I could not do that in

a public meeting or in the presence of other people, nor could I write

it down in my war diary, because the sharp words which fell there must

not become known to other people by means of the war diary. I want to

point to Document C-170, Exhibit USA-136, which dates from 23 August

1939 to 22 June 1941. It is a compilation of many excerpts from the War

Diary of the Naval Operations Staff—and from my minutes of conferences

with Hitler in which the Russian question was dealt with. This is not a

literal reproduction of my statements or word for word excerpts from the

War Diary, but it is a summary of excerpts by the naval archivist,

Admiral Assmann. I will not read details from these many entries, but I

should like to point out that precisely this document, C-170, shows in a

large number of entries contained therein that, since the beginning of

the war in 1939, I continuously used my influence with the Führer to

maintain good relations with Russia for the reasons which I have

previously mentioned. It would lead us too far if I were to start

quoting several entries here. But the document, I would like to

emphasize, is entirely convincing.

DR. SIEMERS: You had nothing to do with the Directive 21, which is

signed by Hitler, Keitel, and Jodl?

RAEDER: Absolutely nothing.

DR. SIEMERS: But following that, you made some preparations in

accordance with the directive? As they concerned the Navy they were in

any case not so important here.

RAEDER: Yes. We had the first conference in January, as can be seen from

one of these entries in C-170. I had reported to the Führer on 4

February about our intentions and in March the Navy began with certain

preparations. I have said already that the Navy throughout the first

period was hardly concerned with major operations, but only with the

cutting off of the Gulf of Finland by mines and light naval forces. I do

not know whether that is in Directive 21 or somewhere else but the

Führer, at my urgent request, had ordered that the center of gravity of

the naval warfare should still be in the direction of England.

Consequently, we could use only relatively small forces for the war

against Russia.

THE PRESIDENT: Dr. Siemers, we had better break off now.

The Tribunal rather understood that you hoped to finish by midday today.

We realize that you had 2 hours of today taken up with your documents,

but when do you think you will be able to finish now?

DR. SIEMERS: I believe I will need only about three-quarters of an hour,

between half an hour and an hour.

THE PRESIDENT: Tomorrow at 10 o’clock we shall deal with the documents

of Seyss-Inquart, and we are told that will only last 30 minutes.

[_The Tribunal adjourned until 18 May 1946 at 1000 hours._]

ONE HUNDRED AND THIRTY-THIRD DAY

Saturday, 18 May 1946

_Morning Session_

MR. DODD: Mr. President, with respect to the application for documents

of the Defendant Seyss-Inquart, 87 documents altogether have been

submitted to the Prosecution, and we have gone over them in the German.

After numerous conferences with counsel for the Defendant Seyss-Inquart,

we find we are unable to agree now on 17 of these documents. As of

yesterday the number was 20, as I so stated, but we have now reduced it

to 17.

Document Number 5 in the defendant’s list is a copy of a resolution of

the German National Assembly on the 21st of February 1919, advocating

Anschluss between Austria and Germany. We have told counsel we object to

it as being really irrelevant here and immaterial. It is a resolution of

a German parliamentary body, and it doesn’t seem to us to make any

difference what they were thinking of Anschluss in 1919.

Document Number 10 is an extract from a newspaper article published in

October 1945 and written by a man named Walford Selby. It is a critical

article criticizing the Treaty of St. Germain for not avoiding the

obliteration of the Austro-Hungarian economic entity, and it discusses

what it describes as the mistakes of 1919, and so on. We understand that

it is intended to explain, with other documents, the economic background

of the Anschluss movement. Whatever may be said for that type of proof,

there are at least five other documents on the same basis and we made no

objection to them. But we did feel that somewhere this sort of thing,

even if relevant, certainly became cumulative. Documents 7, 12, 26, and

33 are all on the same subject, the economic background of Anschluss,

and this is a long one. Therefore, we feel that it certainly is not

necessary, doesn’t add very much, merely creates a lot of paper work,

and is cumulative.

Document Number 11 is a speech delivered by a Dr. Schober, giving the

area and population of the Republic of Austria. We haven’t any very

serious objection to this type of thing excepting that there probably

are better sources if the defendant wishes to establish the area and

population of Austria in 1921. Further, it seems to us that the Tribunal

could very well take judicial knowledge of the area and population of

Austria as of that date from reliable publications.

Document Number 14 is a statement by the former Chancellor of Austria in

1922 to the effect that Austria belongs to Germany. Our objection is

again based on the cumulative feature of this document, because there

are at least three other documents with almost identical statements by

Dr. Renner to which we have made no objection.

Document 19 is an extract from a book written by a man called

Kleinschmied, and the extract purports to show that a number of

politicians lived or prospered on the Anschluss movement in Austria.

That doesn’t seem to us to be very important here or likely to help the

Tribunal very much.

THE PRESIDENT: Mr. Dodd, what exactly does “lived from the propaganda”

mean? That they made their living by reason of propaganda, or what?

MR. DODD: Yes. It purports to show that they made it a vehicle for

carrying on political activities, and made an issue of it and sustained

themselves politically.

Number 21 is an extract from Kunschak’s book _Austria 1918-1934_, and it

gives the increase in the National Socialist votes in Austria between

1930 and 1932. That didn’t seem to us to be very material or very

helpful or likely to be helpful to the Tribunal. We objected to it on

the grounds that it was irrelevant and immaterial.

Document Number 22 is an extract from an article in the _New Free Press_

of August 1932, opposing the League of Nations loan. This again is

submitted to prove the flow or the continuity of the Anschluss movement.

There is at least one other document, Number 23, which purports to

establish the same principle on the same kind of proof.

Number 27 is an extract from an article written by Martin Fuchs, “Un

Pacte avec Hitler,” and it discusses the Yugoslav policy with respect to

Anschluss between Germany and Austria. Again that doesn’t seem to the

Prosecution to have any direct bearing or any helpful bearing upon the

issues here, whatever the Yugoslavs thought about it.

Number 31 is an extract from the _Neue Zeitung_ of the 11th of January

of this year wherein Gordon Walker states that the celebration in

Austria after the Anschluss was genuine. Well, that is Mr. Walker’s

opinion, and there is some other substantial opinion on the other side.

We doubt very much that his opinion is material here or competent.

THE PRESIDENT: Who is he?

MR. DODD: I understand he is a member of the Labor Party in Great

Britain, and a writer.

Number 39 is an extract from the _Archiv_ of 1938. This sets forth a

statement made by Senator Borah, of the United States, that the

Anschluss was a natural and inevitable affair and had nothing to do with

the United States. This was not a speech made by the late Senator Borah

in the Senate; it was his own opinion, and it does not seem to us that

it would be very helpful. Some later opinions of Senator Borah were not

so helpful, and this doesn’t seem to be very likely to be helpful to the

Tribunal with respect to this issue.

Number 47 is an extract from Zernatto’s book _The Truth about Austria_.

Zernatto was one of the State Under Secretaries of Austria, as the

Tribunal knows. He left the country after the Anschluss and went to the

United States and wrote this book. He makes a number of statements, I

might say, about the Defendant Seyss-Inquart. The Tribunal would be

interested in knowing that this Document 47, and Documents 48, 50, 54,

55, 60, and 61 are all extracts from the same book. Now, we felt that

wherever he reports a conversation with Seyss-Inquart, that would have

bearing and relevancy before the Court; but where he expresses his

opinion, we have more doubt about its relevancy. This one statement,

Number 47, seems to be his opinion. He doesn’t cite any conversation or

anything other than what appears to be his impression that Seyss-Inquart

disassociated himself from Leopold’s efforts.

Now, we do not object to 48, and to 50, or to 54, because although we

originally thought we would object, on reviewing them they appeared to

set out actual conversations between Zernatto and Seyss-Inquart, and it

might be helpful to the Tribunal. Therefore, we do not object to the

next three.

But 55, again, is a statement in Zernatto’s book that, in Zernatto’s

opinion, Seyss-Inquart was a figure on the chess board and was

double-crossed by the Nazi or new Party leadership. We object to that

for the reason that I have stated; it is the author’s opinion. He is

deceased, by the way, and is certainly not available. In any event, we

do not think his opinion can be very helpful.

Number 60 is also a statement from Zernatto’s book and it sets out a

conversation with an unnamed Austrian Nazi. We felt that was altogether

too vague and would not be of value or helpful. In Number 61, again, the

author Zernatto expresses his opinion that Seyss-Inquart was afraid of

shouldering responsibility. I don’t want to stress our objections too

heavily to these extracts. I don’t think they are very harmful,

certainly, but I rather object because we would like to cut down some of

this printing, and I do not think they will be very helpful to

Seyss-Inquart.

Number 68 is the first document on anti-Semitism, and it is an excerpt

from the publication entitled _The Elements of National Socialism_ by

Bishop Alois Hudal. It explains anti-Semitism in Germany and Austria;

and it goes on to discuss matters that the Tribunal has heard very much

about through other defendants, the disproportionate position of the

Jewish population in Germany, and so on. We object to it as not being

helpful and not material.

Again 69 is another extract from Zernatto’s book on the causes, as some

of these people see it, of anti-Semitism. It is his opinion and does not

to us seem to be helpful or material here. Number 71 is on the Slovak

question. I doubt that there has been any serious claim made anywhere in

this case that at various times the Slovaks have not claimed autonomy.

This extract from the _Archiv_ of 1938, insofar as we can discover,

seeks to establish that they did want autonomy. Well, we don’t think

that is very important here, and it will not be helpful to the Tribunal

or to Seyss-Inquart.

THE PRESIDENT: Is it a document of state?

MR. DODD: Well, it is a document from the _Archiv_, and in that sense it

is a public document.

THE PRESIDENT: After Slovakia had been taken over by the Reich?

MR. DODD: No, not afterwards, it’s in 1938, and it preceded the taking

over.

THE PRESIDENT: Oh, yes.

MR. DODD: These are our objections, Mr. President. I do think we have

tried to be rather...

THE PRESIDENT: Of course, Mr. Dodd, we are only considering now the

question of objections to translation. We are not considering the

question of admissibility, nor are we binding you not to object to them

after they have been translated.

MR. DODD: Yes, I am aware of that, Mr. President. We tried to be, I

think, fairly generous about this list. The excerpts, or most of them,

are not too long. We did think we would have to call a halt somewhere,

and I do not think our 17 objections out of the 87 listed are very

strict or are pinching, really, the Defendant Seyss-Inquart.

DR. GUSTAV STEINBAUER (Counsel for Defendant Seyss-Inquart): Your

Lordship, High Tribunal, I know that you value my small country,

Austria, not only because of its ancient culture and its scenic beauty,

but also because it was the first country which lost its freedom through

Hitler. However, with all respect which you have for this country, I

cannot expect of you that, as representative of great powers, you know

the history of my country to the last detail. I do believe that it is of

the utmost importance for the defense of Seyss-Inquart that you

understand fully on the basis of what background and what motives this

man acted the way he did.

I myself can see three reasons which led to the Anschluss.

First of all, the desperate economic situation which runs like a red

thread from 1918 right up to—I am sorry to say—and through the year

1946.

The second reason, and I shall be very brief with regard to the

documents...

THE PRESIDENT: Dr. Steinbauer, will you come to the actual documents as

soon as possible, because you will remember we are only discussing the

question of whether they should be translated or not.

DR. STEINBAUER: Yes. The second reason was the disunity of the

democratic parties. The third reason was the attitude of the surrounding

powers. From these points of view I have assembled my documents.

The first document is a resolution of the Weimar National Assembly, and

I am of the point of view that it is important in respect to a final

judgment that the Anschluss was not only a wish of the Austrian

population, but an all-German postulate. It is very short and I request

that it be admitted.

The second document is by Selby, who for many years was the British

Ambassador in Vienna, a genuine friend of our country. In this article

he refers to the economic background and conditions in Austria, which

led to the Anschluss. That was the reason for my including this

document.

The next document is a speech delivered by Federal Chancellor Schober

who was held in great esteem by the world. In this speech he refers to

the fact that the burdens imposed on Austria are too great for her to

carry. He described the situation as a whole as a case of bankruptcy.

The next document is a statement by the present Federal Minister, Dr.

Karl Renner, in 1922. At that time Dr. Seipel went to Geneva and with

great difficulty put through a loan at the League of Nations which was

of great importance to us because at the same time it was demanded of

Austria that we should forego independence for 10 years’ duration. That

meant that we were not to take any steps to change the conditions for an

Anschluss. Renner opposed Seipel in Parliament at that time. This

document is in no way cumulative to Document 33, since in Document 33 I

want merely to describe the economic situation as it obtained in the

year 1938.

The next document is Point 2 of my evidence; namely, the strong

political propaganda for the Anschluss. In any event, I must dispute

most strongly the assertion that Document Number 21, which is very

short, is irrelevant. I consider it extremely important to prove that

this new, very young party, which grew in the fertile soil of a

desperate economic situation, increased tenfold, as far as the number of

votes was concerned, in the years 1930 to 1932; thus all the time there

existed a recognized political opposition to the government.

The next Document, Number 22, is an article which again illustrates the

economic situation in Austria at a very essential period of history,

namely, the moment when Federal Chancellor Dollfuss went to Lausanne in

order to negotiate another loan from the League of Nations, and we again

were forced to suppress thoughts of an Anschluss for another 10 years.

This Document, Number 22, as well as the next one, Number 23, is not

cumulative, since the one shows the political and the other the economic

position of the members of Parliament with respect to the League of

Nations’ loan of the year 1932.

The next document is only an extract from the views taken by the various

surrounding states to the Anschluss question. I selected only

Yugoslavia, for Yugoslavia was the country which most strongly supported

the idea of Anschluss in her foreign policy.

As far as Document 31 is concerned, I should like to remark,

supplementing the remarks made by the Prosecution, that Gordon Walker is

not only a member of the Labor Party, but—and this point is much more

important—during the entire war years he was head of the British Radio

Division Austria, and he was himself in Austria in the year 1938 and he

witnessed the Anschluss. His judgment therefore is of extraordinary

importance since it is the judgment of a prominent foreigner.

The same remark also applies to the following document, the statement by

Senator Borah who for 25 years was the Chairman of the American

Committee on Foreign Affairs. His opinion is surely deserving of notice.

The next documents concern statements made by Dr. Zernatto. I should

like to add that Dr. Zernatto was Federal Minister, General. Secretary

of the Fatherland Front and Schuschnigg’s right-hand man during the

period of the Anschluss. He was one of the spiritual fathers of the

Schuschnigg plebiscite. I am sorry to say that he died an emigrant in

1940, and I cannot produce him as a witness here; but his book is a

document and actually tells what this man experienced in those critical

days.

I urgently request that the remaining three documents, which are very

brief, be left in the book.

The next two documents, which concern anti-Semitism, I included very

unwillingly in order to avoid any accusation of anti-Semitic propaganda.

I included them because in the trial brief my client is accused of being

a member of an anti-Semitic organization. This accusation is

unjustifiable insofar as more importance is attached to this

organization than it actually deserves. If this matter is not further

emphasized by the Prosecution, I shall not attach any particular

importance to these two documents myself.

The last document which is being objected to, Number 71, contains the

Agreement of Pittsburgh which was concluded between Masaryk and Hlinka,

the Slovak leader, at which occasion Masaryk solemnly promised autonomy

to the Slovaks, a promise which was not kept according to the letter of

the agreement and which gave rise to a strong demand for autonomy in

Slovakia, which was supported by Hitler. For these reasons I ask that

this document also be approved.

THE PRESIDENT: Dr. Steinbauer, the Tribunal will consider the question

of these documents.

Now, Dr. Siemers.

[_The Defendant Raeder resumed the stand._]

DR. SIEMERS: May it please the Tribunal, yesterday in connection with

Norway I submitted on one occasion Documents 81, 82, 83, 84, 85, and 86.

I beg the Tribunal’s pardon, but I forgot to submit one document

pertinent to this matter, and I should like to remedy this omission.

The document, which has already been granted me, is Exhibit Number

Raeder-88, which likewise is an extract from the _White Book_ and is

printed in my Document Book Number 5, on Pages 392 and following. This

document shows the British order of 6 April 1940, regarding the plans

for the occupation of northern Swedish ore fields, proceeding from

Narvik.

Since the Tribunal is familiar with this document, it will not be

necessary for me to read from it.

[_Turning to the defendant._] Admiral, yesterday we had arrived at the

topic of Russia. You had answered my question regarding Directive Number

21, Document 446-PS, of 18 December 1940, to the effect that the Navy

had not worked on this directive. You further stated that the Navy

undertook preparations in January in accordance with the command.

RAEDER: May I make a brief remark on this directive to the effect that

yesterday I believe you made a mistake when you said that this directive

was signed by Hitler, Keitel, and Jodl. This was the copy of the

operational staff which Hitler had signed; but Keitel and Jodl only

countersigned. Thus there is no question of a signature of these two;

when such directives were issued they were signed only by Hitler, and

the others could merely countersign.

DR. SIEMERS: I beg your pardon, and I thank you for the correction.

In this connection, I should like to ask the Tribunal to consider

Document C-35, USA-132. This document is found in the Document Book of

the British Delegation, Number 10a, on Page 16. It is an extract from

the War Diary with the date of 30 January 1941. It describes the

preparations by the Navy, in accordance with Hitler’s command of 18

December, where Hitler under Number IV of the directive commanded that

precautionary measures be taken in case Russia should alter her previous

attitude toward Germany, that is, only in case of this possibility.

[_Turning to the defendant._] Admiral, in connection with your

representation of the Russian situation, the Prosecution has submitted

Document C-66, which corresponds to GB-81. This is your report of 10

January 1944 to Admiral Assmann for the historical archives of the Navy.

The document will be found in the Document Book of the British

Delegation, Number 10, Page 13. There you will find the basic position

taken by Raeder with respect to “Fall Barbarossa.” This is set forth

under “a” of the document under Number 1...

I have just heard that this document is also to be found in the Document

Book 10a, on Page 35. There you wrote:

“At this time the Führer had made known his ‘unalterable

decision’ to conduct the eastern campaign in spite of all

remonstrances. Accordingly, further warnings, as long as

completely new situations had not arisen, were completely

without purpose, as one knew from experience. As Chief of the

Naval Operations Staff I was never convinced of the ‘compelling

necessity’ for Barbarossa.”

Do you have anything to add to these statements which you made at that

time?

RAEDER: I should like to say in this connection that despite the fact

that the directive had been issued on 18 December, I made a

comprehensive report at the end of December, as can be seen from

Document C-170, which I mentioned yesterday on several occasions, in

order to convince the Führer of the wrongness of this decision. This

shows that I have gone very far, for when the Führer had issued a

directive, even if it applied only to a hypothetical case, it was

generally impossible to approach him with basic considerations against

this directive. Everything else I mentioned already yesterday.

DR. SIEMERS: Admiral, yesterday, in connection with your

counterproposals made to Hitler with respect to Russia, you mentioned

that in the autumn the plan was still to carry through the action

“Seelöwe,” that is, to land in England.

RAEDER: Yes.

DR. SIEMERS: When, according to your strategic opinion, or the opinion

of the Navy, did this possibility cease to exist? When did you have to

dispense with this plan?

RAEDER: In the course of the month of September we still believed that

the landing could be carried through. As a necessary condition the

Commander-in-Chief of the Army and I, too, always insisted—and he

realized this fully—that for a landing air superiority would have to be

on our side; and therefore we were waiting to see whether we could

actually produce this air superiority in time for the landing, which due

to weather conditions could not be carried out later than the beginning

of October. If it were not possible by then, it would have to be

postponed until May of the following year. It developed that air

superiority could not be produced to the necessary extent; consequently

it was said that the landing was to be postponed until the spring of the

following year. Further preparations were to be taken and they actually

were taken. But in the course of the winter the idea of a landing was

completely abandoned, and Hitler decreed that preparations in the

harbors along the Channel should be carried on only to such an extent as

would give the British the impression that this landing actually was to

take place. In September I had the impression that Hitler no longer had

any great interest in this landing and that in his own mind he was

completely committed to the Russian campaign in conjunction with which

he, of course, could not carry out the landing in England.

DR. SIEMERS: Now, I turn to the accusation raised against you by the

Prosecution that you demanded that war be waged against America. The

Prosecution has submitted in this connection Document C-152, or GB-122,

which is to be found in the Document Book of the British Delegation,

Number 10, Page 23. This is an extract from the War Diary of the Naval

Operations Staff dealing with a report of the Commander-in-Chief of the

Navy—that is, you—to the Führer on 18 March 1941. Under Figure 11 of

this document, it is stated, and I quote:

“Japan must proceed to take Singapore as soon as possible, since

the opportunity will never again be so favorable (preoccupation

of the entire British fleet elsewhere; the unreadiness of the

United States to carry on a war against Japan; the inferiority

of the United States fleet to the Japanese fleet). Japan is,

indeed, preparing for this action but will carry it out,

according to statements of Japanese officers, only at the moment

when Germany proceeds with the landing in England. All efforts

on Germany’s part must therefore aim to incite Japan to

immediate action. If Japan captures Singapore, then all other

Eastern Asiatic problems relating to the United States and

England will be solved (Guam, Philippines, Borneo, and Dutch

East Indies).

“Japan wants to avoid a war against the United States of

America, if at all possible, and can do so if she takes

Singapore promptly.”

The Prosecution has construed this statement of yours to mean that you

wanted to lead Japan into a war against America. Is that correct?

RAEDER: It is one of the most incorrect assertions contained in the

Indictment against me. It is entirely clear that, since I was involved

in a naval war with England with my small German Navy, I did not want,

under any circumstances, to have America on my neck as well; and it has

been discussed here repeatedly that my most urgent effort during the

entire first few years of the war was to avoid, under all circumstances,

being involved with the United States. Admiral Wagner described here in

detail the limitations which I had imposed on the German Navy in order

to prevent any clashes with the United States. I imposed limitations

which actually I could hardly justify when I carried on U-boat warfare

with such relatively small means. On the other hand, the United States

from the end of 1940 on, at the latest, and during the entire year of

1941, exerted pressure on us in our naval warfare wherever possible and

committed actions which could be interpreted as definitely not neutral.

I remind you merely of the repairing of British warships in the United

States, something which up until that time was completely impossible and

unheard of; and Roosevelt’s orders to shoot given in July and in

September 1941; attacks by the American destroyers _Greer_ and _Kearney_

in the Atlantic on our U-boats. In two cases U-boats were pursued with

depth charges for 2 hours until finally they surfaced and fired, in one

case damaging one destroyer. Despite all this, in June 1941 I reported

to Hitler that we were continuing not to disturb the merchantmen of the

United States in any way—with the result that United States merchantmen

were crossing the Atlantic completely unmolested on sea lanes of their

own choosing, were in a position to give reports about our U-boats and

our sea warfare without our preventing them from doing so; because of

this the British were in a position to camouflage their ships as

American ships. That they did. The first time our pocket battleship

_Admiral Scheer_, while crossing the Atlantic, searched a ship flying

the American flag it turned out to be the British ship _Canadian

Cruiser_. Despite all this I recommended to the Führer, and he fully

approved my suggestion, that we should take no measures against American

ships. That we did not go to Halifax to lay mines Admiral Wagner has

already mentioned. I need not mention that any further.

DR. SIEMERS: Was this proposal that Japan capture Singapore only for the

purpose of having assistance and an ally against England, with whom we

were already at war?

RAEDER: That is actually the case, and I should like to picture very

briefly the development which led to this proposal. This was not

anything that I did on my own initiative, but rather at the beginning of

the year 1941 political negotiations were carried on with Japan partly

by the Führer and partly by the Foreign Minister. I was not even called

into these negotiations, and I must say regrettably so, for at these

negotiations many things were discussed which were not correct. However

on the other hand this shows again that there can be no talk about a

conspiracy. Contact was made, and then the visit of the Foreign Minister

Matsuoka took place, I believe, in March.

On the basis of this entire development the Führer, on 5 March 1941,

issued Directive Number 24. That is Document C-75, USA-151, of 5 March.

DR. SIEMERS: I should like to call the attention of the High Tribunal to

Document C-75, which is the same as USA-151, to be found in the Document

Book of the British Delegation, Number 10a, Page 58. In this Directive,

Number 24, it says under Figure 3a:

“As the joint object in the war it is important to defeat

England quickly and in that way keep the United States out of

the war.”

And three paragraphs farther down, under “d,” it says:

“The capture of Singapore...”

THE PRESIDENT: That on Page 58 is Instruction Number 54, concerning

collaboration with Japan.

DR. SIEMERS: I have just been advised—to my surprise—that only a part

of this directive is to be found in the English translation. I ask that

the Tribunal grant me permission, under these circumstances, to submit

the complete directive later as a Raeder document.

THE PRESIDENT: Have you got it in your Raeder book, Dr. Siemers?

DR. SIEMERS: No, not up until now; for I did not know that only a part

had been translated. I am asking for permission to submit this whole

document later as a Raeder document.

THE PRESIDENT: Very well.

DR. SIEMERS: Thank you. This may be found under Figure 3a, and the next

quotation will be found under Figure 3d, and it says:

“The capture of Singapore, which is the key position of England

in the Far East, would be a decisive achievement in the war

effort of the three powers. Beyond that, attacks on other bases

of British and American sea power, if the entry of the United

States into the war cannot be prevented, will serve to shatter

the might of the enemy in that zone....”

I ask the Tribunal to note the fact that already on 5 March, which is

the date of this directive, Hitler decreed the capture of Singapore.

Consequently, the suggestion made by Admiral Raeder in Document C-152,

dated 18 March, cannot be considered decisive, since a Hitler decree was

already in existence.

RAEDER: May I make a brief remark about that? The same thing seems to

apply to all the cases which are being mentioned here: First of all, the

political decision by Hitler, the head of the State; then the directive

of the Supreme Commander of the Armed Forces to the Armed Forces; then

the conclusions drawn by the commanders-in-chief of the separate

branches of the Wehrmacht. So, after I received the directive of 5

March, I had to contemplate how Japan, after entering the war, could

strategically be used with the best results. And that depended on how we

could most effectively wound our main opponent, England, on the sea. In

this connection I had to insist most urgently that Japan move against

Singapore since there were also circles who were of the opinion that

Japan should attack Vladivostok, which would have been a grave mistake.

England’s power center in East Asia had to be attacked. But the very

fact that I believed that the capture of Singapore would cause the

United States of America to shy away from the war occasioned this

proposal of mine, and not the opposite.

DR. SIEMERS: In this same connection, I refer to Document 1877-PS which

was submitted in the special Indictment against you. It is USA-152 and

may be found in the Document Book of the British Delegation, Number 10,

Page 320. It is a conversation between the Japanese Foreign Minister,

Matsuoka—I am just told now that 320 is incorrect. It should be 319.

THE PRESIDENT: And it should be 10a, I think.

DR. SIEMERS: 10a, I beg your pardon.

It is a conversation between Matsuoka and Von Ribbentrop on 29 March

1941. We have already discussed this matter. On Page 8 of this document,

the following is said:

“The Reich Foreign Minister again referred to the problem of

Singapore. Because of the fear expressed by Japan that there

might be U-boat attacks from the Philippines and that the

British Mediterranean Fleet and Home Fleet would join the attack

he had discussed the situation once more with Admiral Raeder.

The latter told him that the British fleet would be so

completely occupied in the home waters and in the Mediterranean

this year that she would not be able to dispatch even a single

ship to the Far East.

“The American U-boats were described by Admiral Raeder as being

so inferior that Japan would not have to concern herself about

them at all.”

[_Turning to the defendant._] Herr Von Ribbentrop, in reply to my

question on 1 April 1946, declared that he had been mistaken, that the

statement was probably made by Hitler. Will you please clarify this

statement once and for all?

RAEDER: I can only confirm that I never discussed such questions with

Herr Von Ribbentrop, for unfortunately there was no connection between

the Foreign Office and the High Command of the Navy especially since the

Führer had forbidden that any information be given by the Foreign Office

to the military authorities. I would never have made such statements

since they were in direct opposition to my own opinion, and especially

since in this case I had no basis for any such statements.

DR. SIEMERS: Admiral, were not, on the other hand, questions frequently

dealt with in the Naval Operations Staff as to the industrial and

military strength of the United States, and that for these reasons any

entrance of the United States was to be feared?

RAEDER: This was fully clear to us, even to the last detail.

DR. SIEMERS: Did you at any time during the war see this Document

1877-PS, which is before you?

RAEDER: No, no.

DR. SIEMERS: Were you advised about these discussions between Herr Von

Ribbentrop and the Foreign Minister Matsuoka or the discussion with

Oshima?

RAEDER: No; I was merely told by the Führer, and that is shown in the

Document C-170, dealing with the results of this discussion with

Matsuoka. But I had no discussions with Herr Von Ribbentrop.

DR. SIEMERS: May it please the High Tribunal, I have just been asked to

correct a word which I have just used; in order to be fair, I should

like to do so. I said that Hitler, in his directive of 5 March 1941,

“decreed” that Singapore be taken. The expression is not correct. He

naturally could not give any orders to Japan. The mistake arises because

the directive starts with the words: “The Führer has commanded the

following for our co-operation.” And under Figure 3 it says: “The

following directives apply in this case.” And among these directives the

taking of Singapore is mentioned.

Admiral, in any conversation did you suggest to anyone at any time that

Japan attack Pearl Harbor?

RAEDER: No, we never talked about that at all.

DR. SIEMERS: Did you hear anything about this plan before Japan attacked

Pearl Harbor?

RAEDER: Never. It was a complete surprise for me and the Naval

Operations Staff that this attack took place; and it is a complete

mistake in judging the mentality of the Japanese to assume that they

would have spoken of such a plan to anyone, even inside Japan, who was

not directly connected with it. In 1904 they likewise attacked Russian

ships “out of the blue” without anyone suspecting anything at all.

DR. SIEMERS: May it please the Tribunal, in this connection I should

like to submit three documents which have been granted me, first Exhibit

Number Raeder-19, to be found in Document Book 2, Page 108. This

document deals with the report by the American General Marshall which

has been placed at my disposal through the help of the Court.

In this report, dated 1 September 1945, General Marshall stated the

following; and I refer to Page 116:

“In order to establish for the historical record where and how

Germany and Japan failed I asked General Eisenhower to have his

Intelligence officers promptly interrogate the ranking members

of the German High Command who are now our prisoners of war. The

results of these interviews are of remarkable interest. They

give a picture of dissension among the enemy nations and lack of

long-range planning that may well have been decisive factors of

this world struggle at its most critical moments.”

And two paragraphs further:

“No evidence has yet been found that the German High Command had

any over-all strategic plan. Although the High Command approved

Hitler’s policies in principle, his impetuous strategy outran

German military capabilities and ultimately led to Germany’s

defeat. The history of the German High Command from 1938 on is

one of constant conflict of personalities in which military

judgment was increasingly subordinated to Hitler’s personal

dictates. The first clash occurred in 1938 and resulted in the

removal of Blomberg, Von Fritsch, and Beck and of the last

effective conservative influence on German foreign policy.

“The campaigns in Poland, Norway, France, and the Low Countries

developed serious diversions between Hitler and the General

Staff as to the details of execution of strategic plans. In each

case the General Staff favored the orthodox offensive, Hitler an

unorthodox attack with objectives deep in enemy territory. In

each case Hitler’s views prevailed and the astounding success of

each succeeding campaign raised Hitler’s military prestige to

the point where his opinions were no longer challenged. His

military self-confidence became unassailable after the victory

in France, and he began to disparage substantially the ideas of

his generals, even in the presence of junior officers. Thus no

General Staff objection was expressed when Hitler made the fatal

decision to invade Soviet Russia.”

And on Page 118, there is an extract dealing with Germany and Japan. I

quote:

“Nor is there evidence of close strategic co-ordination between

Germany and Japan. The German General Staff recognized that

Japan was bound by the neutrality pact with Russia but hoped

that the Japanese would tie down strong British and American

land, sea, and air forces in the Far East.

“In the absence of any evidence so far to the contrary, it is

believed that Japan also acted unilaterally and not in

accordance with a unified strategic plan.”

And further, in the documents which were also granted me, Exhibit

Raeder-113 and 114, in the Document Book 6, Page 491 and Page 497...

THE PRESIDENT: Dr. Siemers, I think you should ask the witness whether

he agrees with General Marshall’s appreciation.

DR. SIEMERS: Admiral, do you agree with the opinions of the American

General Marshall?

RAEDER: I have not completely absorbed these statements. In general they

are the lines of thought which we also had pursued, but I cannot vouch

for each single point. In order to speak with certainty I would have to

look at them or they would have to be read to me again.

DR. SIEMERS: I believe the general confirmation is sufficient. In

Document Raeder-113 I should like to refer to the heading:

“Army Foresaw Japan’s Move, Marshall Says:

“Washington, December 11 (AP)—General George C. Marshall,

formerly Army Chief of Staff, acknowledged last night that the

Army knew more than 10 days before December 7, 1941, that a

Japanese move toward Pearl Harbor might take them past the

deadline where the American chiefs believed the U.S. should

fight.”

In order to save time I shall not read the particulars; but it can be

gathered from the report by Marshall that the American Army knew about

it and later the date of November 25 and 26 is mentioned. In addition

Marshall testifies that preparations had been worked out in the United

States before the war for the construction of landing strips for

American bombers in Rabaul, Port Moresby, and Singapore.

In Exhibit Number Raeder-114, which I am also submitting, Henry L.

Stimson, the former United States Secretary of War, made a statement

under date of 21 March.

“Henry L. Stimson, former U.S. Secretary of War, disclosed that

the late President Roosevelt’s War Cabinet had discussed and

rejected—9 days before Japan’s attack on Pearl Harbor—an

American attack on the Japanese forces without further

warning...

“Stimson related that he had received on November 28, 1941

information of Japanese movements along the Asiatic coast. On

the same day, he said, the Cabinet met and discussed the

possible meaning of the Japanese move.”

He further said that:

“...if the Japanese got into the Isthmus of Kra, the British

would fight, and that if the British fought we would have to

fight.”

According to this, Admiral, did the United States know about these

Japanese plans before you did?

RAEDER: Apparently, yes.

DR. SIEMERS: Then I shall turn to the last accusation by the

Prosecution, and that concerns Brazil. In this connection, the

Prosecution has submitted Document 1807-PS, GB-227, to be found in the

Document Book of the British Delegation 10a, Page 288. This is Jodl’s

diary, the entry of 16 June 1942. I have to beg your pardon, I am told

it is Page 287, not 288. This entry reads:

“The Naval Operations Staff applied on 29 May for permission to

attack the Brazilian sea and air forces. It considers that a

sudden blow against the Brazilian naval and merchant ships is

expedient at this moment when defensive measures are still

incomplete and there is the possibility of surprise, since

Brazil is to all intents and purposes waging naval warfare

against Germany.”

[_Turning to the defendant._] The Prosecution is accusing you of

violating neutrality and violating international law because you made

that proposal at a time when Brazil was neutral. I call your attention

to the fact that the war with Brazil broke out 2 months later on 22

August 1942. Please tell me briefly from memory just how you came to

make this proposal.

RAEDER: The relations between Brazil and Germany at this time could not

have been worse. The Germans were very much persecuted and treated very

badly. Germany’s economic interests were heavily impaired. The

Brazilians were already completely on the side of the United States.

They had allowed United States air bases to be established along the

Brazilian coast, and also intelligence stations. They themselves

confirmed that they had destroyed a German U-boat; and, on the other

side, the German U-boats had also attacked Brazilian ships, for the

Brazilian ships were not illuminated according to regulations and

consequently could not be recognized as Brazilian ships. Germany had

previously asked all of the South American countries to illuminate their

ships in such a way that their nationality could be distinguished at

night. Then there were air attacks on U-boats of the Axis Powers, and

they could have been carried out only from Brazilian bases. At this

request of the Naval Operations Staff to the Führer, the Führer decreed

that once again we should ask the Italians what intelligence reports

they had received; and Italy in turn confirmed that some weeks before

Italian U-boats, which had been operating together with ours, had been

attacked near the Brazilian coast. Likewise the Brazilian Air Ministry

had made known the fact that Brazilian aircraft or United States

aircraft coming from Brazilian air bases had attacked Axis U-boats.

On the basis of that confirmation the Führer permitted the use of

weapons against Brazilian ships along the Brazilian coast. A plan was

worked out, according to which a certain wave of U-boats, which left the

French coast in June to proceed into the Atlantic, was to go to the

Brazilian coast. The Führer had ordered in particular that this was not

to be mere pin-pricks but rather a serious enterprise. This operation

was later stopped and not carried through. I am sorry that I am not able

to say for what reason. But it can be seen from our document which gives

the statements made in the War Diary.

DR. SIEMERS: May it please the Tribunal, I believe that the entire

accusation of the Prosecution regarding this planning would not have

been raised if Document 1807-PS, Jodl’s diary entry of 16 June, had been

submitted _in toto_. Only the first part was submitted. Therefore, I

submit this entry as Exhibit Number Raeder-115, to be found in Document

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