Book 10, Page 39, a decree of the Führer of 25 February 1938, you and

the Commander-in-Chief of the Army were made equal in rank to the Reich

Ministers. The Prosecution asserts that therefore you were a member of

the Cabinet and were permitted to and did participate in the meetings.

Is that correct?

RAEDER: No. I was not a Reich Minister but only equivalent in rank. The

reason for that was, I believe, that General Keitel was made equal in

rank with the Reich Ministers because, in administering the affairs of

the War Ministry, he was frequently in contact with them and had to be

on the same level in order to negotiate with them. And since Brauchitsch

and myself had seniority over General Keitel we also received the same

rank. I was not a member of the Cabinet at all, but the decree states

that on the order of the Führer I could participate in a Cabinet

meeting. It was probably intended that I was to come to the Cabinet when

technical matters had to be explained. However, that never occurred,

since after that time there were no Cabinet meetings.

DR. SIEMERS: May I point out that in Paragraph 2 of that decree by

Hitler it states: “The commanders-in-chief... on my orders shall

participate in the meetings of the Reich Cabinet.”

RAEDER: Yes. And as far as the Secret Cabinet Council is concerned I

need only confirm that, as Hitler told me himself the Secret Cabinet

Council had only been formed in order to honor the retiring Foreign

Minister, Von Neurath, in order to give the impression abroad and at

home that Von Neurath would still be consulted on foreign policy in the

future. However, that Secret Cabinet Council never met.

DR. SIEMERS: The Prosecution has made the charge that on 12 March 1939,

on the day commemorating the heroes, you made a speech and that in that

speech you came forth with a ruthless challenge to fight against

Bolshevism and international Jewry.

May I state, if it please the Court, that unfortunately the speech was

entered in the document book by the Prosecution only from an excerpt

which was selected from a certain point of view; and I believe that it

would be well to know the context of the entire speech. Of course, I

shall not read it, but I should like to submit it as Exhibit Number

Raeder-46. The sentence is in my Document Book Number 3, Page 235, the

page from which the Prosecution took the quotation. Will you please

briefly express your opinion of that.

RAEDER: May I in doing so read a few short sentences which will

characterize the entire speech?

DR. SIEMERS: I have no doubt that the Tribunal will permit that. I only

ask you to use only a few significant sentences, just as the Prosecution

have done.

RAEDER: On Page 7, Line 6, it says...

DR. SIEMERS: Excuse me. That is on Page 235, the same page which

contains the quotation of the Prosecution.

RAEDER: Shortly before the quotation of the Prosecution we read on Line

6:

“He has given back self-confidence and confidence in their own

ability to the German people, and thereby enabled them to

retake, by their own strength, their sacred right refused to

them during the time of their weakness and, beyond that, to

approach the tremendous problems of the times with courage, and

to solve them. Thus the German people and the Führer have done

more for the peace of Europe and the world than some of our

neighbors are able to realize today.” (Document Number

Raeder-46)

Then we come to the sentence where I speak about the announcement of the

fight against Bolshevism and international Jewry which has been quoted

by the Prosecution. I should like to state briefly in connection with it

that after the experiences of the years 1917 to 1919, communism and

international Jewry had destroyed the resistance of the German people to

a considerable degree and had gained an excessively large and oppressive

influence in German affairs, in affairs of state as well as in economic

affairs, as for example also in the legal field. Therefore, in my

opinion, one could not be surprised that the National Socialist

Government tried to loosen and, as far as possible, remove this large

and oppressive influence. Although in pursuing this course the National

Socialist Government took rather severe steps which led to the Nuremberg

Laws—the exaggerations of which I regretted, of course—nevertheless,

in the course of the speech which I made in public at the orders of the

Reich Government, I could not find it compatible with my conscience to

express my personal opinions, which were basically different. It must

also be considered that such a speech had to fit into a general

framework. That, however, was only one short sentence, whereas other

points were considerably more in the foreground. In that connection I

ask for permission to read two more short sentences:

“And this is the reason for the demand for equal rights and

equal respect with all other nations which alone can guarantee

that the nations will live peacefully together on this earth.”

Then the last sentence, on Page 235:

“Within the bounds of German national community the Führer has

assigned us our tasks as soldiers to protect our homeland and

our peaceful national reconstruction and to train the young

manhood, fit for military service, which was entrusted to us and

which has to pass entirely through our hands.”

The next sentence was quoted by the Prosecution, because there I spoke

of the fact that we should not only train these young people technically

in the sense of the technical use of arms but also educate them in the

sense of National Socialist ideology and philosophy, and I stated that

we had to march shoulder to shoulder with the Party.

I have always taken the view that the Armed Forces should not be a

completely extraneous body in the State. It would be impossible to have

a republican armed force in a monarchist state or an armed force with

monarchist tendencies in a democratic state. Thus our Armed Forces would

have to be incorporated into the National Socialist State to the extent

necessary to create a real people’s community, and it would be the task

of the commanders of the Armed Forces to educate their branches of the

forces in such a way that they would recognize and live up to the good

national and socialist ideals of the National Socialist State. This

would be done in the same way as I did it as Commander-in-Chief of the

Navy. In this way it was possible to incorporate the Armed Forces in an

orderly manner, to keep them from all exaggeration and excesses, and at

the same time to form a people’s community within the State.

And then on the bottom of Page 236:

“This nation needed a new, a true peace, the peace of justice

and honor, peace without hatred. The world also needs peace.

Because a weak Germany could not obtain peace, a strong one has

won it for herself. It is the proud task of the German

Wehrmacht, to secure this peace for the German nation against

everybody.”

And quite at the end of the document, the 11th or 12th line from the

bottom of the page:

“But the soldier over there, whom we respect as the valiant

representative of his country, may accept a soldier’s word: What

Germany needs and wants is peace. These are not just words but

it has been proved by practical examples. The construction work

of Germany requires many years of quiet development.”

I think that this is sufficient...

DR. SIEMERS: I believe that is sufficient.

May I point out to the High Tribunal that in the English translation, on

Page 236, as far as I remember, one sentence was underlined. That is:

“The Wehrmacht and Party are one indivisible entity.” The Prosecution

has submitted that. Apart from that, nothing is underlined.

I wish to say in passing that in reality, in the original, many other

passages are underlined, particularly those sentences which Admiral

Raeder has just read which deal with peace.

[_Turning to the defendant._] Admiral, the Prosecution has accused you

with having connections with all the political activities of National

Socialism. Therefore I am compelled to ask you briefly concerning your

participation in actions in those countries where participation by the

Navy is certainly surprising.

In what way were you connected with the measures concerning the

annexation of Austria?

RAEDER: The Navy had nothing to do with the Anschluss of Austria at all

and did not take part in any way.

DR. SIEMERS: Did you make any preparations?

RAEDER: No. In the case of Austria, no preparations were needed. The

case of Austria was mentioned in Document C-175, but that dealt only

with the directive of 1 July 1937 for the unified preparation of the

Armed Forces for war.

DR. SIEMERS: May I point out that C-175 is USA-69, in the Document Book

of the British Delegation, 10a, Page 117.

[_Turning to the defendant._] The Prosecution considers this document

important and therefore I should like you to say a few words about it.

RAEDER: It deals with a statement, which, according to my knowledge, is

made in every state for every year and in which, according to the

political situation, such cases are mentioned which may arise in the

course of the year and for which, of course, certain preparations have

to be made. For the Navy, however, that document had no sequel as far as

Austria was concerned.

DR. SIEMERS: So it is a document which numerous...

THE PRESIDENT: I am not sure that we have the reference to that right.

It came through, I thought, C-157, USA-69, 10a, and then I did not get

the page.

DR. SIEMERS: Page 117.

THE PRESIDENT: Is that C-157 or 175?

DR. SIEMERS: C-175.

[_Turning to the defendant._] Does this concern strategic preparations

for various eventualities?

RAEDER: Yes; various cases are mentioned here, for instance, the “Case

Red” and the special “Case Extension Red-Green.” All these had to be

dealt with but they did not necessarily lead to any consequences.

DR. SIEMERS: Mr. President, in that connection I wanted to submit

various documents, Raeder exhibits, from which it can be seen that the

same type of preparations, since they are necessary for military and

strategic reasons, were also undertaken by the Allies—only to show

their necessity. At this moment I should like to forego that because I

cannot determine so quickly which of these documents are admitted and

which have been rejected. Perhaps I may therefore submit the connected

documents at the end in order that no misunderstanding may occur now by

my quoting the wrong figures.

[_Turning to the defendant._] In what way did you and the Navy

participate in measures concerning the Sudetenland?

RAEDER: In a directive...

DR. SIEMERS: I beg your pardon. May I ask you to look at the document of

the Prosecution 388-PS. It is USA-126—no, excuse me—USA-26. It is in

the Document Book of the British Delegation, 10a, Page 147. It is a

draft for the new directive “Grün” of 20 May 1938.

RAEDER: Yes, I have the directive here. It is of 20 May 1938 and says

with regard to the Navy:

“The Navy participates in the operations of the Army by

employing the Danube flotilla. That flotilla is put under the

command of the Commander-in-Chief of the Army. In regard to the

conduct of naval warfare, at first only those measures are to be

taken which appear to be necessary for the careful protection of

the North Sea and the Baltic against a sudden intervention in

the conflict by other states. Those measures must be confined to

what is absolutely necessary, and must be carried out

inconspicuously.”

The entire course of action at the end of September and beginning of

October made the special measures unnecessary, so the Danube flotilla

which we had taken over from Austria was put under the command of the

Army.

DR. SIEMERS: What was the size of the Danube flotilla?

RAEDER: It consisted of some small river craft, one small gunboat and

minesweepers.

DR. SIEMERS: That is the total extent to which the Navy participated?

RAEDER: Yes, in which the Navy participated.

DR. SIEMERS: In what way did you and the Navy participate in the

preparations for the occupation of what the document calls the

“remainder of Czechoslovakia”?

This concerns Document C-136, USA-104 in the Document Book of the

British Delegation, 10a, Page 101. It is of 21 October 1938. The

Prosecution points out that according to that you had already been

informed in October that Czechoslovakia was to be occupied after some

time, that is in March, as actually happened. Will you please tell us

something about that?

RAEDER: That directive looks suspicious at first but the way in which it

is drafted shows that this again refers to possible cases. Point 1 deals

with the securing of the borders of the German Reich and protection

against surprise air attacks.

Points 2 and 3 are “Liquidation of the remainder of Czechoslovakia,”

“Occupation of the Memel Country.”

Number 2, “Liquidation of the remainder of Czechoslovakia”: The first

sentence reads, “It must be possible to shatter the remainder of

Czechoslovakia at any time if her policy should become hostile toward

Germany.”

That is the prerequisite in case of any action against Czechoslovakia;

that did not mean that it was certain that any action would be taken.

In the same manner, under Number 3, mention is made of the occupation of

the Memel country, where it says: “The political situation, particularly

warlike complications between Poland and Lithuania, may make it

necessary for the German Armed Forces to occupy the Memel country.”

DR. SIEMERS: Excuse me. May I point out that, according to my document,

the part which the witness has just read is missing in the English

translation—so that you will not look for it unnecessarily.

[_Turning to the defendant._] So here again this is a possible

eventuality?

RAEDER: Yes.

DR. SIEMERS: On 3 September 1939, at the beginning of the war, the

_Athenia_ was sunk. From the military point of view that case has

already been clarified by Herr Kranzbühler, but I should like you as

Commander-in-Chief of the Navy to state your position and give an

explanation of the incident with special consideration of the fact that

the Prosecution, especially in this case, has raised a very severe and

insulting accusation. They have made the accusation that you, purposely

and in violation of the truth, held England and Churchill responsible

for the sinking of the _Athenia_, although you knew perfectly well that

the _Athenia_ had been sunk by a German U-boat. As proof, the

Prosecution has submitted the article of 23 October 1939 from the

_Völkischer Beobachter_.

Mr. President, that is Document Number 3260-PS, GB-218. Document Book 10

of the British Delegation on Page 97.

[_Turning to the defendant._] I would like you to explain that point.

RAEDER: The fact is that on 3 September at dusk the young submarine

commander of the submarine _U-30_ met an English passenger ship which

had its lights dimmed and torpedoed it because he assumed, by mistake,

that it was an auxiliary cruiser. In order to avoid misunderstanding I

should like to state here that the deliberations of Kapitänleutnant

Fresdorf, which have been mentioned here concerning the torpedoing of

dimmed ships in the Channel, did not yet play any part in the Naval

Operations Staff at that time and that this commanding officer could not

have known anything about these deliberations. He knew only that

auxiliary cruisers had their lights blacked out, and he assumed that

this was an auxiliary cruiser at the entrance of the northwest channel,

England-Scotland. He did not make a report since it was not necessary.

The information that a German U-boat had torpedoed the _Athenia_ was

broadcast by the British radio, and we probably received the news during

the night of the 3d to the 4th, and transmitted it to the various news

services.

In the morning of 4 September we received that news at the offices of

the Naval Operations Staff, and I requested information as to how far

our nearest submarine was from the place of the torpedoing. I was told,

75 nautical miles. At about the same time, State Secretary Von

Weizsäcker in the Foreign Office, who had been a naval officer in the

first World War, learned of this situation and made a telephone call to

the Naval Operations Staff, asking whether it was true. He did not call

me personally. He received the answer that, according to our

information, it could not be right. Thereupon he sent for the American

Chargé d’Affaires—I believe Mr. Kirk—in order to speak to him about

the matter because the radio broadcast had also mentioned that several

Americans had been killed in that accident. From his experiences in the

first World War it was clear to him how important it was that there

should be no incident involving America. Therefore, he told him what he

had heard from the Naval Operations Staff. I personally told the same

thing to the American Naval Attaché, Mr. Schrader, and that certainly in

good faith. I believed that I could tell him that in good faith because

we had no other information. State Secretary Von Weizsäcker then came to

see me personally, if I remember correctly. We were very close friends,

and he told me what he had told the American Chargé d’Affaires. He

apologized, I believe, for not having spoken to me personally and that

concluded the case for the time being.

The matter was such that, if it had been reported in a normal way, we

would not have hesitated to admit and to explain the reason. We would

not have hesitated to apologize to the nations concerned. Disciplinary

measures would have been taken against the officer. I also reported the

incident to the Führer himself in his headquarters and told him that we

were convinced such was not the case, and the Führer ordered that it

should be denied. This was done by the Propaganda Ministry, which had

been informed of the order by my press department.

The submarine returned on 27 September...

DR. SIEMERS: Excuse me if I interrupt. That date, Mr. President, is

identified by Document D-659, which was submitted by the Prosecution, it

is Exhibit GB-221 in Document Book 10 on Page 110.

RAEDER: The submarine commander returned on 27 September to

Wilhelmshaven. Admiral Dönitz has already described how he received him

and how he immediately sent him to me to Berlin by air.

The U-boat commander reported the entire incident to me and confirmed

that it was a sheer mistake, that it was only through all these messages

he had heard that he himself discovered that it was not an auxiliary

cruiser that was concerned but a passenger steamer.

I reported the facts to the Führer because they could have had severe

political consequences. He decided that, as it had been denied once, we

had to keep it utterly secret, not only abroad but also within official

circles and government circles. Consequently, I was not in a position to

tell State Secretary Von Weizsäcker or the Propaganda Ministry that the

facts were different. My order to the Commander of the U-boat fleet

reads:

“1. The affair is to be kept strictly secret upon orders of the

Führer.

“2. On my part, no court-martial will be ordered because the

commanding officer acted in good faith and it was a mistake.

“3. The further political handling of the matter is to be

attended to by the High Command of the Navy, as far as anything

has to be done.”

With that the commander returned to Wilhelmshaven and Admiral Dönitz has

already reported that he was punished by disciplinary procedure. To our

great surprise, about one month later that article appeared in the

_Völkischer Beobachter_ in which Churchill was accused of being the

author of that incident. I knew absolutely nothing about that article

beforehand. I would certainly have prevented its appearance because,

knowing that our submarine had torpedoed that ship, it was out of the

question to lay the blame on the enemy, on the First Lord of the

Admiralty of all people.

I found out later that the order to publish such an article was issued

by Hitler and reached the Propaganda Ministry through the Reich Press

Chief. As far as I remember I was told that the Propaganda Minister had

himself drafted that article. Later I could not prevent it. I did not

see the article nor did any of my officers of the High Command of the

Navy see it. They would certainly have come to me at once so that I

could have prevented its publication. We had no reason to expect such an

article 4 weeks after the torpedoing of the _Athenia_. That is the case

of the _Athenia_.

DR. SIEMERS: You just said that you had discovered that Hitler knew

about the article. When did you discover this?

RAEDER: Here, from my Codefendant, Hans Fritzsche.

DR. SIEMERS: Not at that time then?

RAEDER: No, by no means.

THE PRESIDENT: The Tribunal will sit again at a quarter past two.

[_The Tribunal recessed until 1415 hours._]

_Afternoon Session_

DR. SIEMERS: In the meantime I have perused my documents and I am

therefore in a position to carry out the original plan, that is, of

submitting the documents during the examination.

In connection with the documents which we dealt with last, Document

C-126, “Strategic Preparations,” I should like to submit the following

documents which are contained in the _White Books_, documents which have

been granted me for my use and which also concern strategic preparations

on the part of the Allies. We are dealing with Exhibit Number Raeder-33.

It is the document dated 9 November 1939; and also Exhibit Number

Raeder-34, General Gamelin to General Lelong, 13 November 1939; and also

Exhibit Number Raeder-35, two extracts from the Diary of Jodl, 1809-PS,

which concern the measures taken by the Luftwaffe regarding the

Caucasus. It is not necessary for me to comment on this. I would just

like to call your attention to the questions which I put to the witness

Reich Marshal Göring on 18 March; he has already testified regarding the

plans of the Allies for the destruction of the Caucasian oil fields. And

finally in this connection, Exhibit Number Raeder-41, to be found in the

Document Book 3, Page 205, and the following pages, a report of the

Commander-in-Chief of the French Army, General Gamelin, dated 16 March

1940, it deals with the war plans for the year 1940 concerning the

tightening of the blockade, the plans regarding the Scandinavian

countries and, in addition, the plans for the destruction of the Russian

oil wells in the Caucasus.

[_Turning to the defendant._] Admiral, before I deal with the separate

campaigns of Greece, Norway, and so forth, I would like to ask you to

answer a question which relates to you personally. What decorations did

you receive from Hitler?

RAEDER: I received from Hitler in the autumn of 1939 in addition to the

Golden Emblem, which I have already mentioned, the Knight’s Order to the

Iron Cross. Furthermore, in the year 1941 on the occasion of my 65th

birthday I received a donation of 250,000 marks. This donation was given

to me by Hitler through an adjutant and in connection with that he sent

a document.

When I thanked him on the very first occasion, he told me that he was

giving me this donation as a means of decoration in the same manner as

the former rulers of Prussia had given their generals similar donations,

whether as sums of money or as a country estate; then he emphasized that

Field Marshals Von Hindenburg and Von Mackensen had received donations

from him as well.

DR. SIEMERS: Now I shall turn to the passage “Greece.” With regard to

Greece, the Prosecution has quoted Document C-12, which is GB-226. This

is to be found in Document Book Number 10, Page 1. This document deals

with the decision on the part of Hitler which was transmitted through

the OKW, dated 30 December 1939, signed by Jodl, and we read under

Number 1.:

“Greek merchant ships in the area around England, declared by

the United States to be a barred zone, are to be treated as

enemy vessels.”

This decision on the part of Hitler was made on the basis of a report by

the SKL. What caused you to make this report even though Greece was

neutral at the time?

RAEDER: At that time we had received a large number of intelligence

reports from our intelligence service that Greek shipping companies

apparently with the knowledge of the Greek Government were allowing

Greek ships to be chartered by England under favorable conditions.

Therefore, these Greek ships were in the service of England and thus

were to be treated in the same way as we were treating the English

merchantmen. These intelligence reports were confirmed later on to an

even greater degree than had been the case in the beginning.

DR. SIEMERS: In this connection I would like to submit to the High

Tribunal Exhibit Raeder-53, to be found in my Document Book 3, Page 258.

This document deals with the War Diary kept by the SKL in the month of

December 1939.

On Page 259, under the date of 19 December, the following entry is made:

“Greece has hired out about 20 vessels to ply between the United States,

Le Havre and Liverpool.”

This is confirmed by the reports just mentioned by the defendant. The

next entry, on the same page under the date 30 December:

“Justified by the sales and chartering of numerous Greek ships

to England it has been decreed, with the agreement of the

Führer, that Greek ships in the zone from 20 degrees West to 2

degrees East and from 44 degrees North to 62 degrees North shall

be considered as hostile craft by U-boats. Attacks to be made

invisibly as far as possible.”

I also submit the following document, Number Raeder-54. This document is

taken from the _White Books_. It is dated 23 January 1940, and it is a

report from the German Embassy at the Hague to the Foreign Office. The

heading is: “The Contemplated Chartering of 50 to 60 Greek Ships to the

British Government.” It is not necessary for me to read it. I should

like merely to quote the beginning of the first sentence:

“After the British press brought reports at the end of November last

year”—that is, 1939—“about the alleged charterings of Greek vessels to

British companies”—and so forth—then follows the statement that these

50 to 60 ships are now chartered by British companies.

Even though it is not quite accurate historically, I would now like

first of all to conclude the question of Greece. In historical sequence

Norway should follow now first, but for the sake of coherence I should

like to deal with Greece and the occupation of Greece first.

In the Document C-152, identical with C-167 or Exhibit GB-122, in the

Document Book of the British Delegation Number 10, Page 23, the

Prosecution has charged you with the Figure 9 of this lengthy document,

specifically Figure 9.)B.)f.). It says there:

“The Commander-in-Chief of the Navy requests confirmation of the

fact that the whole of Greece is to be occupied even in the case

of a peaceful solution. The Führer: Complete occupation is a

stipulation for any settlement.”

This document concerns your report to Hitler of 18 March 1941. What were

the reasons for your making this proposal?

RAEDER: In the beginning I had but little knowledge of the political

intentions of the Führer as far as Greece was concerned, but I did know

of his Directive Number 20, dated 13 December 1940.

DR. SIEMERS: I beg your pardon, I would like to mention for the

assistance of the Court that we are dealing with Document 1541-PS, that

is GB-117, Document Book of the British Delegation 10a, Page 270. This

directive is dated 13 December 1940.

RAEDER: In this directive the Führer, for the reasons given in Paragraph

1, said that his intention was, as set forth in Paragraph 2:

“b.) After the setting in of favorable weather, probably in

March, to employ this group of forces to occupy the north coast

of the Aegean by way of Bulgaria, and if necessary to occupy the

entire Greek mainland (‘Operation Marita’). The support of

Bulgaria is to be expected.”

The next time I heard about these things again was when I heard that the

British had landed in southern Greece on 3 March. We learned that on

about 5 or 6 March. For this reason I asked the Führer that he occupy

all of Greece in order to prevent the British from attacking us from the

rear, by air, and from erecting air bases, all of which would hamper the

conduct of our war not only in Greece but also in the eastern

Mediterranean.

The fact was that when a political decision had been made by Hitler of

his own accord and without having consulted anyone, I, as Chief of the

Naval Operations Staff, always had to draw my strategic conclusions from

this political decision and then had to make to him my proposals on

naval and on other warfare as far as they concerned me.

Since in December he had already considered the possibility that all of

Greece would have to be occupied, the case had now actually arisen for

me to make this proposal to him for the reason I have already mentioned.

When I said “all of Greece,” that implied to me and the Naval Command

the entire Greek coast, where the British forces might land.

DR. SIEMERS: Your proposal was made about 2 weeks after British troops

had landed in Greece?

RAEDER: Yes.

DR. SIEMERS: In this same connection I would like to submit Exhibit

Raeder-58, in my Document Book 3, Page 271. This is a document contained

in the _White Book_, according to which on 4 January—I beg the

Tribunal’s pardon. Sir David is right. Document 58 has been rejected and

I withdraw it.

In this connection I would like to submit Exhibit Number Raeder-59. It

is to be found in Document Book 3, Page 273 and is an extract from the

_White Book_: It is the minutes of the French War Committee of 26 April

1940. This document deals with the decision of the War Committee

regarding Norway, the Caucasus, Romania, and Greece.

I also submit Exhibit Number Raeder-63, in Document Book 3, Page 285,

which is an address by the British Secretary of State for India, Amery,

dated 1 December 1940. This document also shows plans regarding Greece,

a year and a quarter before the time just mentioned by the witness.

Now I shall turn to the topic of Norway.

[_Turning to the defendant._] The British prosecutor, Major Elwyn Jones,

considers the attack against Norway a special case in the series of

aggressive wars waged by the Nazi conspirators. In this connection he

pointed out that, in this case, Hitler did not think of this himself but

rather was persuaded by you. Since his point is very important, I should

like to ask you to describe this event exactly, and therefore I ask you

first of all: When was the first conversation about this matter between

you and Hitler?

RAEDER: The first conversation between Hitler and myself concerning the

question of Norway was on 10 October 1939, and that was at my request.

The reason for this was that we had received reports at various times

during the last week of September through our intelligence service of

the offices of Admiral Canaris that the British intended to occupy bases

in Norway.

I recall that after reports to this effect had reached me several times

Admiral Canaris visited me himself on one occasion—something he did in

very important cases only. And, in the presence of my chief of staff, he

gave me a coherent explanation concerning the intelligence reports which

had been received. In this connection air bases were constantly

mentioned, as well as bases in the south of Norway. Stavanger was

mentioned constantly with the airport Sola, and Trondheim was usually

mentioned and occasionally Christiansand.

During the last days of September I had a telephone conversation with

Admiral Carls who was the commander of Navy Group North and was

therefore in charge of operations in the Skagerrak, the Kattegat and in

the North Sea. This man had obviously received similar reports. He

informed me that he had composed a private letter addressed to me, in

which he dealt with the question of the danger of Norway’s being

occupied by British forces and in which he was in a general way dealing

with the question as to what disadvantages such a step would have for

us, and whether we should have to forestall such an attempt, and also

what advantages or disadvantages the occupation of Norway—that is, of

the Norwegian coast and the Norwegian bases—by our forces would have.

Up until that point I had not concerned myself with the Norwegian

question at all, except for the fact I had received these reports. The

arrival of this letter at the end of September or the beginning of

October, it must have been about then, impelled me to show it to the

Chief of Staff of the SKL and to instruct him to deal with all dispatch

with the question of the occupation of Norwegian bases by England, and

the other questions which Admiral Carls had dealt with, and to have the

questions discussed in the SKL. The advantages and disadvantages of an

expansion of the war towards the North had to be considered, not only of

an expansion on our part but, above all, an expansion on the part of

England; what value, what advantage would accrue to us if we acted

first; what disadvantages would result if we had to defend the Norwegian

coast?

The result of this was the questionnaire mentioned in C-122, GB-82,

where the questions were asked: What places were to be used as bases;

what the possibility of defense by us would be; whether these ports

would have to be developed further; and also, what advantages would

result so far as our U-boats were concerned?

These questions, as I have already stated, were put to Admiral Dönitz as

well, but his answers arrived only after I had made the report on 10

October. I would like to say, by way of introduction, that it was

entirely clear to me that if we undertook to occupy these bases we would

violate neutrality. But I also knew of the agreement which existed

between the German and Norwegian Governments of 2 September regarding

neutrality, and I knew the concluding sentence, in this _aide memoire_,

which is Document TC-31, GB-79, dated 2 September 1939.

DR. SIEMERS: I beg your pardon, but I should like to point out, Mr.

President, that this document is found in the Document Book of the

British Delegation 10a, at Page 330.

[_Turning to the defendant._] You have that document before you?

RAEDER: Yes, I have it before me, and I would like to quote the

concluding sentence.

DR. SIEMERS: It is the last document in the book, Your Honor, at Page

329.

RAEDER: [_Continuing._] The last sentence:

“Should the attitude of the Royal Norwegian Government change so

that any such breach of neutrality by a third party recurs, the

Reich Government would then obviously be compelled to safeguard

the interests of the Reich in such a way as would be forced upon

the Reich Cabinet by the resulting situation.”

Then, within the next few days, I asked the Chief of Staff of the SKL to

submit to me the data which the SKL had prepared during the preceding

days and I reported to Hitler on 10 October, because I considered this

problem particularly important. It was entirely clear to me that the

best possible solution for us would be that Norway should maintain a

steadfast neutrality, and I expressed my opinion, as may be seen in

Document C-21, GB-194.

This is an extract from the War Diary of the SKL.

DR. SIEMERS: It is in the Document Book of the British Delegation 10a,

Page 6.

RAEDER: It says here, on Page 3 of the German version, the next but last

paragraph, under the date of 13 January: “Situation discussion with the

Chief of the SKL.”

DR. SIEMERS: I beg your pardon, Mr. President. C-21 was not entirely

translated by the Prosecution. This document may be found in my document

book under Exhibit Number Raeder-69, and I should like to submit it

herewith. It is in Document Book 3, Page 62.

THE PRESIDENT: Document Book 3 only goes to 64, is that not right? It

must be Document Book 4.

DR. SIEMERS: There must be a mistake in the document book then. At

first, due to an oversight, the table of contents was only completed as

far as 64 by the Translation Section, but since that time it has been

corrected and supplemented. It is in Document Book 4, Page 317.

THE PRESIDENT: Yes, Page 317, at the top.

DR. SIEMERS: [_Turning to the defendant._] Please comment on this

document.

RAEDER: In the next but last paragraph, it says:

“In complete agreement with this point of view, the Chief of the

Naval Operations Staff is therefore also of the opinion that the

most favorable solution would doubtless be the maintenance of

the present situation which, if strictest neutrality is

exercised by Norway, will permit the safe use of Norwegian

territorial waters for the shipping vital to Germany’s war

effort without the attempt being made on the part of England to

seriously endanger this sea lane.” (Document Number Raeder-69)

I maintained this point of view when reporting to Hitler. In that report

I first mentioned the intelligence reports which we had at hand. Then I

described the dangers which might result to us from a British occupation

of bases on the Norwegian coast and might affect our entire warfare,

dangers which I considered tremendous. I had the feeling that such an

occupation would gravely prejudice and imperil the whole conduct of our

war.

If the British occupied bases in Norway, especially in the South of

Norway, they would be able to dominate the entrance to the Baltic Sea

from those points, and also flank our naval operations from the

Helgoland Bight and from the Elbe, Jade and Weser. The second outlet

which we had was also gravely imperiled, affecting the operations of

battleships as well as the courses of our merchantmen.

In addition to that, from their air bases in Norway, they might endanger

our air operations, the operations of our pilots for reconnaissance in

the North Sea or for attacks against England.

Furthermore, from Norway they could exert strong pressure on Sweden, and

that pressure would have been felt in this respect, that the supplies of

ore from Sweden would have been hindered or stopped by purely political

pressure. Finally, the export of ore from Narvik to Germany could have

been stopped entirely, and it is known how much Germany depended on

supplies of ore from Sweden and Norway. They might even have gone so

far—and we learned about this subsequently that such plans were

discussed—as to attack and destroy the ore deposits at Lulea, or to

seize them.

All of these dangers might become decisive factors in the outcome of the

war. Aside from the fact that I told Hitler that the best thing for us

would be to have strict neutrality on the part of Norway, I also called

his attention to the dangers which would result to us from an occupation

of the Norwegian coast and Norwegian bases, for there would have been

lively naval operations near the Norwegian coast in which the British,

even after our occupation of bases, would try to hamper our ore traffic

from Narvik. A struggle might ensue which we, with our inadequate supply

of surface vessels, would be unable to cope with in the long run.

Therefore, at that time I did not make any proposal that we should

occupy Norway or that we should obtain bases in Norway. I only did my

duty in telling the Supreme Commander of the Wehrmacht about this grave

danger which was threatening us, and against which we might have to use

emergency measures for our defense. I also pointed out to him that

possible operations for the occupation of Norwegian bases might be very

expensive for us. In the course of later discussions I told him that we

might even lose our entire fleet. I would consider it a favorable case

if we were to lose only one-third, something which actually did happen

later on.

There was, therefore, no reason for me to expect that I would gain

prestige by such an enterprise—I have been accused of this ambition by

the Prosecution. As a matter of fact, the exact opposite might easily

result.

DR. SIEMERS: I should like to call the attention of the Tribunal to the

fact that these things may be seen in documents which date from the time

of the war, one of which is Exhibit Number Raeder-69, of 13 January

1940, which has just been handed over. This document is a study, and it

is claimed that this study is based on the consideration that if England

were to have the bases in Norway, the situation would be impossible for

the conduct of the war by Germany and such a situation could be

prevented only if we forestalled England by occupying Norway ourselves.

What the witness has just said is stated in exactly the same way in the

War Diary.

In the same connection, I should like to refer to the document of the

Prosecution, Document C-66, GB-81, which may be found in British

Document Book 10a, Page 35. This document is dated 10 January 1944. May

I ask the Tribunal to take judicial notice of the fact that there, under

the code name “Weserübung” (Weser Maneuver)—that was the name covering

this action—the substance of the statements the witness has just made

is to be found. I do not wish to read all of them since we would lose

valuable time thereby.

THE PRESIDENT: You mean C-66? That is about the Plan Barbarossa. Is that

the one you mean?

DR. SIEMERS: The last page, under the heading “Weserübung,” Page 39 of

the English document book. Mention is made there of the letter by

Admiral Carls, spoken of by the witness, and of his thoughts in

connection with this matter. In the German original there is the

heading, “Appendix 2.”

A clearer version is found in Document Raeder-69, since that dates from

January 1940, 3 months later, and in the meantime new reports had come

in. This, on the other hand, is a description dating from October 1939.

[_Turning to the defendant._] Admiral, I must once more refer to

Document C-122, which you have already mentioned.

The Prosecution, in that document, accuses you of saying:

“The Chief of SKL deems it necessary to tell the Führer as soon

as possible of the ideas of the SKL on the possibility of

expanding the sphere of operations in the North.”

They think they may conclude therefrom that your primary thought was to

expand the operational sphere of the Navy.

RAEDER: I have already said that by the possibility of expansion of the

operational zone to the North I meant an expansion of British operations

and its consequences, and also the possibility of our forestalling this,

thus gaining bases which would be of certain importance to us.

DR. SIEMERS: What did Hitler reply at this discussion on 10 October

1939?

RAEDER: Hitler had not yet concerned himself with this question. The

question was very far from his mind, for he knew very little about

matters of naval warfare. He always remarked that he did not have an

over-all picture of these things, and therefore felt somewhat uncertain.

He said that he would deal with this question and that I should leave

the notes with him, which I had worked out on the basis of statements

made by the SKL, so that he might use them as a basis for his

deliberations on this problem.

It was typical and really speaks very much against the character of the

conspiracy, that on this occasion Hitler, when confronted with the

problem of Norway, did not say a single word about the fact that

previously, the last time evidently in the summer of that year, he had

already dealt with Norwegian questions prompted by Rosenberg. I gather

from a document which I saw for the first time here that on 20 June

1939, Rosenberg had submitted to the Führer a comprehensive report about

his connections with Norwegian political circles, but I heard of these

connections for the first time on 11 December.

It would have been a matter of course for me if the Führer, who was

dealing with Norwegian strategical matters, had told me on this

occasion: “I have such and such information about Norwegian matters.”

But he did not do that—there was always a considerable lack of

collaboration. The Führer told me that we should await the arrival of

further reports and that he would deal with these questions.

DR. SIEMERS: In the subsequent period of October and November, up until

11 December, did you discuss this question with Hitler again?

RAEDER: No, the question was not discussed at all during those months,

but in September Korvettenkapitän Schreiber, who had first been

appointed assistant attaché in Oslo and later, naval attaché, gave me

further reports at that time about conditions in Norway, and so did the

intelligence service. He told me of reports which were circulating there

about a possible British landing. Later on Kapitän Schreiber was

actually my chief collaborator in these Norwegian problems, and he

showed a particular understanding of the whole situation.

DR. SIEMERS: In this connection, I should like to submit to the Tribunal

Exhibit Raeder-107, an affidavit of the naval attaché who has just been

mentioned, Richard Schreiber. This may be found in my Document Book 5,

Page 464.

According to that document, Schreiber was drafted on 7 September 1939 as

a reserve officer and was sent to Oslo as a naval attaché. He states

that he held that post there since the autumn of 1939.

With the permission of the Tribunal, I should like to read a portion of

this, under I, on Page 465, at the bottom.

THE PRESIDENT: We told you that we had read all these documents which

were objected to. We let in this document, so it is not necessary for

you to read it again.

DR. SIEMERS: Very well. Then in this connection, may I refer to the

first part of this affidavit, Part I?

Mr. President, I should like to point out a small but misleading error

in translation on Page 466. In the second paragraph, second line, the

word “deutsch,” (German) is missing: “...there were clear directives of

the German Foreign Office that Norwegian neutrality should be

particularly respected by the Germans...” In the English text it says:

“of the Foreign Office.” It should read “of the German Foreign Office.”

I should be very grateful if this mistake would be rectified.

[_Turning to the defendant._] Admiral, you know the affidavit given by

Schreiber?

RAEDER: Yes.

DR. SIEMERS: Different reports are contained therein. You have already

referred to them in part. Did any additional special reports come in

during those 2 months? Was Narvik mentioned in addition to the other

ports already mentioned?

RAEDER: As far as I remember it was Kapitän Schreiber who expressly

mentioned Narvik for the first time. Kapitän Schreiber had very quickly

made himself acquainted with conditions there. He had established good

connections in Norwegian circles. A confirmation of all that I had known

up to that point came on 11 December.

DR. SIEMERS: Now, would you please describe your meeting with Quisling

on 11 December 1939?

RAEDER: May I first ask whether the Documents 004-PS and 007-PS, which I

believe were submitted by the Prosecution, may be used in this

connection? For example, the minutes of the conference of 11 and 12

December, an accompanying letter by Rosenberg referring to these

minutes, and similar matters?

DR. SIEMERS: Admiral, I believe that you will be permitted to use these

documents. But since they are known you only need to mention the points

that you remember.

RAEDER: Yes.

DR. SIEMERS: On this occasion I should merely like to ask whether you

did not know the documents by Rosenberg, 004-PS and 007-PS?

RAEDER: No, I did not know those documents.

DR. SIEMERS: Did you see them for the first time here?

RAEDER: I saw them for the first time here. But the reports contained in

these documents were already known to us at that time as is proved by

the dates of the documents.

DR. SIEMERS: Please tell us only what you heard at that time from

Quisling.

RAEDER: Up until 11 December I had neither connections with Herr

Rosenberg—except for the fact that I had seen him on occasion—nor,

above all, did I have any connections with Quisling about whom I had

heard nothing up to that time.

On 11 December my Chief of Staff, Schulte-Mönting, reported to me that

Major Quisling, a former Norwegian Minister of War, had arrived from

Oslo. He was asking for an interview with me through a Herr Hagelin,

because he wished to tell me about Norwegian conditions.

Herr Hagelin had been sent to my chief of staff by Herr Rosenberg.

Rosenberg had already known Hagelin for some time as I have mentioned

before. Since reports from such a source on Norwegian conditions seemed

to be of great value to me, I declared myself ready to receive Herr

Quisling.

He arrived on the same morning and reported to me at length about the

conditions in Norway, with special reference to the relations of the

Norwegian Government to England and the reports on the intention of

England to land in Norway, and he characterized the whole situation as

especially critical for, according to his reports, the danger seemed to

be imminent. He tried to fix a date. He thought it should occur before

10 January, because then a favorable political situation would arise.

I told him that I was not really concerned with the political situation,

but I would try to arrange to have him give his information to the

Führer. I would be concerned only with the military and strategic

situation, and in that connection I could tell him right away that it

would not be possible to take any measures from 11 December until 10

January, first because the time was too short and secondly because it

was winter.

I considered his expositions to be of such importance that I told him I

would try to arrange for him to report to the Führer personally, so that

these reports would reach and influence him directly.

Then on the 12th—that is on the next day—I went to Hitler and informed

him of the conversation between Quisling and me, and I asked him to

receive Quisling personally so that he might have a personal impression

of Quisling. On this occasion I told him—and this is written down in

one of the documents—that in cases of this kind one would have to be

especially cautious, since one could not know to what degree such a

party leader would try to further the interest of his party. Therefore

our investigations would have to be especially careful. And I again

called the attention of the Führer to the fact that an attempt to occupy

Norway would bring with it greatest risks as well as certain

disadvantages for the future situation. In other words, I carefully

presented both sides of the picture in a neutral manner.

Hitler then decided to receive Quisling together with Hagelin on one of

the following days. The two gentlemen then were obviously in touch with

Rosenberg. I believe they stayed with him, and Rosenberg sent me, by

letter, a record of a meeting which had apparently been drawn up by

Quisling and Hagelin and also a description of Quisling’s personality.

In this letter, which is here as a document but which was not read by

the Prosecution, it says specifically that Rosenberg knew what the

political conditions were but that, of course, he would have to leave

the military side entirely to me since I was the competent authority on

that.

DR. SIEMERS: If it please the High Tribunal, in this connection I would

like to submit Exhibit Raeder-67, to be found in my Document Book 4,

Page 309. That is the letter from Rosenberg to Raeder dated 13 December

1939, which was not mentioned by the Prosecution. The Prosecution merely

mentioned the appendix mentioned in the letter—that is, a note by

Rosenberg, under Number C-65, the same as GB-85. According to its

contents C-65 belongs to Exhibit Raeder-67.

THE PRESIDENT: You say there was another besides Raeder-67 which you

were referring to?

DR. SIEMERS: Yes; I am referring to Raeder-67.

THE PRESIDENT: I got that. But you said some other document as well.

DR. SIEMERS: Yes, the document submitted by the Prosecution, C-65, and

that is an appendix to this letter; the two belong together. The latter

document, C-65, is to be found in the Document Book of the British

Delegation 10a, Page 33. If these two documents are taken together, it

can be seen that the political side is not mentioned in either document;

and this explains what the witness meant when he said that he was not

concerned with the political side of the question but only with the

military side. It is for that reason that Rosenberg had sent it to him.

THE PRESIDENT: I think it would be a good time to break off.

[_A recess was taken._]

MR. DODD: Mr. President, with respect to the case of the Defendant

Seyss-Inquart, counsel and representatives of the Prosecution have been

conferring with respect to his application for documents. We have agreed

on a great number, but there are 20 upon which we are unable to agree.

THE PRESIDENT: 20?

MR. DODD: 20. I think we could do it in 30 minutes if the Tribunal will

set some time aside; it might take a little more. Sir David has reminded

me that the translators are waiting on us to go ahead with their

translation work.

THE PRESIDENT: Mr. Dodd, I think the best thing would be to take it

tomorrow morning at 10 o’clock.

MR. DODD: Very well, Mr. President. It has been suggested also that the

case of Seyss-Inquart precede that of Defendant Von Papen. I understand

that is the wish of the counsel, and it is very satisfactory to us as

well.

THE PRESIDENT: Very well.

DR. SIEMERS: We have to refer briefly to Document 1809-PS, the Diary of

Generaloberst Jodl. It is GB-88 in the Document Book of the British

Delegation 10a, Page 289.

May I first ask when were the plans for the occupation of Norway

drafted?

RAEDER: I may say that on the basis of the conference which Quisling had

with the Führer in my presence on 14 December the Führer ordered the OKW

to deal with the matter and study it. The Führer had two more

conferences with Quisling on 16 and 18 December at which I was not

present. The matter was then handled by the OKW according to the

directives and an initial plan known as “North” was drafted. Document

C-21, which I have mentioned before, shows that this Plan North was

received by SKL on 13 January and then, in the course of January, the

date 27 January was mentioned, the draft of a directive for the Plan

North was made. That draft was made in the OKW in the usual way. Kapitän

zur See Krancke as expert for the Navy took part in it. The directive

was completed on 1 March 1940, and was issued to the three branches of

the Armed Forces. In the meantime, a large number of reports had been

received, and it was possible to use these as a basis for the drafting

of the directive. These reports besides coming from Kapitän Schreiber

now also came direct from Quisling, who sent them to the Führer. They

mentioned the preparatory work carried out by the English and the

French—special mention was made of the Navy Attaché Kermarrec—in

Norwegian ports for finding out the possibilities of landing,

measurements of quays, and the height of the bridges between Narvik and

the Swedish border and similar things.

These reports which reached us showed clearly that within a reasonable

time a landing was intended. Also political reports reached us which

Hagelin received through his connections in Norwegian circles, reports

which in part came directly from members of the Storting—and from

members of the Government and their entourage.

All of these reports confirmed that the pretext of aid for Finland in

the dispute between Finland and Russia played a certain role. The danger

was discussed that England under pretext of aid for Finland would

proceed to a bloodless occupation of Norway. The directive for the case

Norway, therefore, was issued on 1 March. In the further course of the

month of March more reports were received. In the meantime, the

_Altmark_ incident had occurred, and it was observed by Hagelin too that

the behavior of the Norwegian commander was a pretense, and it was clear

that in the case of any encroachment on the part of Great Britain, the

Norwegian Government would protest only on paper.

DR. SIEMERS: You said just now the directive is dated 1 March. This is

correct. The Prosecution submitted a quotation of 5 March from Document

1809-PS. That is an entry in Jodl’s Diary: “1500 hours big conference

with the three commanders-in-chief regarding Weserübung. Field Marshal,

having no knowledge about plans, is furious.” How is it possible,

Admiral, that Reich Marshal Göring had not been consulted at a time when

the directive was already issued?

RAEDER: I cannot explain that at all. I had no authority to speak about

it and I cannot say why he was not consulted.

DR. SIEMERS: It is in the nature of conspiracy that the second man in

the Reich would be informed about it from the beginning. Has he not ever

spoken to you about that matter?

RAEDER: No, not that I remember, but that shows how little, especially

in the Führer’s entourage, one can speak of a conspiracy. The Foreign

Minister, Von Ribbentrop, also was not present during any of the

Quisling conferences or receptions and I had no authority, to speak to

him about these matters.

DR. SIEMERS: Then I should like to know your position regarding Jodl’s

entry of 13 March, in which he stated: “Führer does not give the order

for ‘W’ (Weserübung). He is still trying to find a justification.”

I ask you to explain these words to us as you understand them.

RAEDER: Yes. The English translation as far as I can remember says

“Looking for an excuse.” But he needed neither justification nor excuse,

because in the first paragraph of the directive of 1 March—that is to

say, 2 weeks before that—he had stated what circumstances made it

necessary to occupy Norway and Denmark with certain forces of the

Wehrmacht. British encroachments in Scandinavia and the Baltic were to

be prevented thereby, our ore deposits in Sweden safeguarded, and the

bases against England for the Navy and the Air Force were to be

expanded.

DR. SIEMERS: Mr. President, may I point out that is the Document C-174;

that is, GB-89, Document Book of the British Delegation 10a, Page 113.

That is the directive for case “Weserübung” of 1 March 1940, which as

the witness has mentioned, already contains the justification for it.

May it please the Tribunal, to prove that the information received by

the witness through the intelligence service of Admiral Canaris, through

Kapitän Schreiber and so on, is objective and in agreement with facts,

may I be permitted to submit several documents—and that Exhibit Number

Raeder-75 from the _White Book_ dated 17 February 1940, which mentions

the landing of British troops in Bergen, Trondheim and Narvik, and

several appendices to it, which show the trends of thoughts at that time

in regard to the Swedish ore; Document Exhibit Raeder-77...

THE PRESIDENT: This is 75, Pages 43 and 44?

DR. SIEMERS: I beg your pardon. Not page, but Exhibit Raeder-75. It is

Page 340. Document Book 4.

Then Exhibit Number Raeder-77, also from the _White Book_: “The French

Premier and Minister for Foreign Affairs Daladier to the French

Ambassador in London, Corbin.”

In Document Book 4, Page 352. I have seen that there is a mistake in the

English document book. On Page 353 the heading is missing or rather on

Page 354. I may point out that this document bears the date 21 February

1940. That is contained in the original document under the heading

“Intervention in Scandinavia.” It concerns the occupation of the most

important Norwegian ports, _et cetera_, and mentions again the question

of the Swedish ore.

Then I come to the Document Exhibit Raeder-78; Document Book 4, Page

357, an excerpt from the War Diary of the Naval Operations Staff of 4

March in which in connection with the case of the _Altmark_ it is

explained that a defense by Norway against British military action is

not possible.

Then Exhibit Raeder-79, Document Book 4, Page 359, note by the

Commander-in-Chief of the French Army, General Gamelin. Here also there

is a mistake in the translation. The heading of the document was omitted

on Page 360. I would be grateful if the Tribunal would note that the

original document bears the date 10 March 1940. It is top secret and is

based on the fact that the general plan for armed intervention in

Finland existed since 16 January and therefore as a precautionary

measure the ports and airfields on the Norwegian coast should be

occupied. I refer to the remaining contents of document.

Then may I submit Exhibit Number Raeder-80, a report about negotiations

of the Scandinavian Commission of the Inter-Allied Military Study

Commission of 11 March 1940, top secret, concerning landing at Narvik.

[_Turning to the defendant._] Then, Admiral, we are finished with

Norway. I believe you said already that the reports increased

considerably in the month of March. When did Hitler give the final order

for the occupation?

RAEDER: At the end of March or beginning of April. I cannot recall the

exact date.

DR. SIEMERS: I believe that is sufficient.

RAEDER: May I also mention a particularly important report which I

remember now. Quisling reported in February that Lord Halifax had told

the Norwegian Ambassador in London that an operation on the part of the

British for the acquisition of bases in Norway was planned for the near

future. That report also reached us at that time. I should like to add,

as I emphasized before, that being fully conscious of my responsibility

I always tried to show the Führer both sides of the picture and that the

Führer would have to be guided by my documentary proof when deciding, to

take or refrain from taking that tremendous step. But that does not mean

to say that because I pointed out to my Supreme Commander of the Armed

Forces that particular danger, I in any way decline to accept

responsibility. Of course, I am in some measure responsible for the

whole thing. Moreover, I have been accused because in a letter submitted

here under C-155 I had told my officers’ corps that I was proud of the

way in which this extraordinarily dangerous enterprise had been

executed. I should like to confirm this, because I believe I was

entitled to be proud that the Navy had carried out that operation with

such limited means and in the face of the entire British fleet; I still

stick to that.

DR. SIEMERS: Did reports reach the SKL in March about violations of the

neutrality of Norway? That is incidents in territorial waters?

RAEDER: Yes. In the second half of March repeated attacks were made by

British planes and naval forces against our merchant ships bringing the

Swedish ore down from Narvik.

DR. SIEMERS: Mr. President, in that connection may I submit some more

documents? Exhibit Raeder-81, Document Book 5, Page 372, War Diary of

the Naval Operations Staff which contains several entries showing that

towards the end these incidents became more and more frequent and that

the Norwegian neutrality was violated by British air and naval forces.

As that document is known there is no need to read anything from it.

Then Exhibit Raeder-82 in Document Book 5, Page 377, also War Diary of

27 March, also concerning violations of neutrality. Furthermore, Exhibit

Raeder-83, Page 379, a draft resolution of the sixth session of the

Supreme Council, dated 28 March 1940, which was already mentioned

yesterday. It deals with vital interests from the standpoint of

international law and with the laying of mines in territorial waters on

5 April.

Then Exhibit Raeder-84, Page 384, and Exhibit Raeder-85, Page 386, both

of which are documents from the _White Book_. May I only point out that

it mentions that the first transport is to leave on J.1. day, that is

actually on 5 April; in other words, 4 days before the occupation by

Germany.

Exhibit Raeder-86 is an excerpt from the War Diary, of which I ask you

to take official notice and which concerns the chartering by England of

90 percent of the Norwegian tankers.

To conclude Norway, may I ask you to look at two Documents, C-151 and

C-115. Those are Exhibits GB-91 and GB-90, respectively, Document Book

of the British Delegation 10a, on Pages 106 and 62. The dates are 30

March 1940 and 4 April 1940. The documents show that the ships which

were to carry out the landing should carry the British flag for

camouflage reasons. The Prosecution uses that document also to support

its accusation.

[_Turning to the defendant._] What do you say about it?

RAEDER: That is quite a regular ruse of war, that warships carry a

foreign flag. A requisite for the legality of that act, however, is that

at the moment of an enemy action, the moment fire is opened, their own

flag must be hoisted in time. That has always been done in the German

Navy, especially in the case of our auxiliary cruisers, which frequently

sailed under a foreign flag in order to avoid being reported by merchant

ships, but which always lowered that flag in time. That is a matter of

honor. It must be added that in this case, as the War Diary shows...

DR. SIEMERS: 8 April.

RAEDER: ...that on 8 April, on account of certain considerations, we

rescinded that order, because we had the report that an English action

was under way, and we feared that complications would arise from that.

So this order was not carried out in the long run. I believe the

document can be found which contains that.

DR. SIEMERS: Mr. President, I submit, in this connection, Exhibit Number

Raeder-89 (Document Raeder-89), Document Book 5, Page 400, where we find

under 8 April: “The previous order is rescinded, the British flag is not

to be used.”

RAEDER: You also asked about Document C-115, which says that the

blockade runners camouflaged as merchant ships with dimmed lights should

enter Oslo Fjord unobtrusively. This too is quite a regular ruse of war

against which, from the legal point of view, no objection can be made.

Likewise there is nothing to be said against English names given in

answer to signals of identity.

I did not finish answering one question because I was interrupted. That

was the question concerning the expression “justification” or “excuse”

in the War Diary of Generaloberst Jodl. As I have shown, it was not a

question of the justification, which had been expressed a long time

before by Hitler, but I believe that I am right in saying that the

question was that the diplomatic note which, at the moment of the

execution of the enterprise, had to be presented to the Norwegian and

Danish governments, giving the reason for his action, had not yet been

drafted, especially as he had not yet spoken to the Foreign Minister at

that time at all. The Foreign Minister received the information, as he

has said himself, only on 3 April.

DR. SIEMERS: With this I should like to conclude the question of the

occupation of Norway. May I still submit the approved document, Exhibit

Raeder-66, which was approved for the purpose of argument? It is an

opinion expressed by Dr. Mosler, and it can be found in Document Book 4,

Page 291; and in this connection, concerning the use of flags, may I

draw special attention to Figure 7, Page 304, from which we may see the

legal reasoning. Furthermore, may I submit Exhibit Raeder-90, Document

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