Mr. SPECTER. When was that?
Mr. WALL. Possibly 2 weeks before the assassination—telling me his
problem and wanting to know when it would be brought up at the meeting,
and I told him that we usually met the 15th of each month and that at
the next meeting I would—I’m sorry. I made an error. We meet every
Thursday. Every Thursday there was a union meeting and the 15th is when
we meet privately, I think.
Mr. SPECTER. Did you have an official capacity with the union, that is,
were you an officer?
Mr. WALL. Well, I was an officer as being elected the president of
the inter-union. In other words, all the performers, if there was
a complaint that some performer had done something wrong and the
management said that he was right and the performer said that they were
right, then the performers themselves elected a committee of about six
that would determine who was right, and this was the committee and I
really don’t even know the correct name of the committee. They would
judge who was right and wrong and what would be done about it.
Mr. SPECTER. Did you have any official standing on the committee which
was to take up Jack Ruby’s problem?
Mr. WALL. I don’t understand what you mean.
Mr. SPECTER. Were you responsible in any official way for the committee
which was to consider the problem Jack Ruby had with the guild?
Mr. WALL. My capacity was to make sure that everything was presented
correctly and this was the only thing that Jack was after me to do is
to make sure his side of the story was heard.
Mr. SPECTER. Was it up to you to make the decision on who was right and
who was wrong?
Mr. WALL. It was up to the committee, six members.
Mr. SPECTER. You were one of the members of the committee?
Mr. WALL. Right.
Mr. SPECTER. Now, when did Jack Ruby first discuss his problem with you?
Mr. WALL. I would say around 2 weeks before the assassination.
Mr. SPECTER. When did he next discuss the problem with you?
Mr. WALL. He called me a couple of times to see if we had had a meeting
or not. He would call and I would tell him; no.
Mr. SPECTER. Was that by telephone?
Mr. WALL. Yes, sir; he would call me at the hotel.
Mr. SPECTER. And how many times did he call you after he first
discussed it with you approximately 2 weeks before the assassination?
Mr. WALL. I would say about two times.
Mr. SPECTER. When did he make those telephone calls to you?
Mr. WALL. In the afternoon.
Mr. SPECTER. Approximately how long before the assassination were those
calls made?
Mr. WALL. Well, the last one was the Saturday night, midnight the last
call came, that was the main reason he was calling me was to find out
if we had had a meeting.
Mr. SPECTER. Did he call you once or twice between the first time he
talked to you about the guild problem and the time he called you in
Galveston?
Mr. WALL. About twice.
Mr. SPECTER. When did those two telephone calls occur, to the best of
your recollection?
Mr. WALL. In the afternoon. That was the only time to get me.
Mr. SPECTER. What dates?
Mr. WALL. I can’t recall any dates.
Mr. SPECTER. Did you discuss any thing else in any of those two
telephone calls other than the specific problem with the guild?
Mr. WALL. No, sir.
Mr. SPECTER. Had Mr. Ruby called you at Galveston prior to the time
he completed the call shortly after your arrival at Galveston on that
Saturday night?
Mr. WALL. I’m sorry. Had he——?
Mr. SPECTER. Did he just call you the first time and make that
connection with you?
Mr. WALL. Yes, sir; as far as I know. Otherwise my mother would have
said that she received a long distance call.