Mr. SENATOR. No particular reason.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Jack wouldn’t figure that you or somebody else wouldn’t
have picked that dog up later and taken care of it?
Mr. SENATOR. I don’t know.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Or isn’t it possible that Jack just at this point forgot
about the consequences to the dog?
Mr. SENATOR. I can’t even answer that.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Then would you say that the mere fact that Jack had Sheba
with him doesn’t prove one way or another whether he planned to kill
Oswald?
Mr. SENATOR. I don’t think he planned nohow.
Mr. GRIFFIN. I know you don’t think that, but I want to know what
significance we should put on the fact that he had Sheba with him. As I
understand what you have been saying now, one could draw the conclusion
that simply because he had Sheba with him doesn’t prove conclusively
one way or another that he had a plan or didn’t have a plan.
Mr. SENATOR. I can’t conceive anyhow that this man had any plans, nohow.
Mr. GRIFFIN. If you knew that Jack Ruby had taken Sheba to the club and
locked her in the club and left instructions for somebody to take care
of Sheba, would that affect your attitude as to whether Jack planned to
kill Oswald or not? Would you still say——
Mr. SENATOR. I would say it would still be of the same nature having
the dog. I don’t think he would do anything like that.
Mr. GRIFFIN. You just don’t think he planned to kill Oswald?
Mr. SENATOR. No; definitely not. I just never could visualize it. I
can’t visualize anything like this.
Mr. GRIFFIN. You also say in this, Moore also reports in this statement
this language: “Also the fact that he had the cash receipts from the
club in the car.” Now I take it from that language that you are saying
that you also think that Jack would have taken the cash receipts back
to the club if he had planned to kill Oswald?
Mr. SENATOR. The only thing I can say is that I would have to guess
on my own and say I can only surmise that he wouldn’t have had any
cash with him. That is what I would guess. I don’t know. First of all,
he carries money both ways, see. Now Jack has always been under the
impression wherever he goes, daytime or nighttime, that money, I don’t
say all his money but a certain part of money, what ever he puts in, is
safe in the trunk. He feels it is safe in the trunk.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Let’s suppose Jack Ruby had done this. Let’s suppose he
had taken his dog Sheba to the Carousel Club, left a note for somebody
as to how to take care of Sheba, and had taken all the money out of the
back of his car and locked it in the safe at the Carousel Club.
Mr. SENATOR. What safe?
Mr. GRIFFIN. Didn’t he have a safe there?
Mr. SENATOR. He bought a safe but it was never fixed. He bought a safe,
I’ll tell you the kind of a safe he bought. To my knowledge it has
never been put to use. He bought a safe that fits into the ground. Did
you ever see these little round things that fit into the——
Mr. GRIFFIN. Yes.
Mr. SENATOR. Well, this thing never materialized because the structure
was never made for the safe, never made into the ground. Now if he ever
used the safe I don’t even know.