Mr. GRIFFIN. And that was before you learned that Ruby——

Mr. SENATOR. Yes. When I heard that Oswald was shot, but nothing

mentioned. There was no name or no club mentioned, Oswald was shot—that

is when I called him.

Mr. GRIFFIN. Directing your attention to the FBI’s report on November

24, that you said you learned that Oswald was shot just as you walked

in the door.

Mr. SENATOR. No.

Mr. GRIFFIN. What makes you now remember that you were seated and had a

cup of coffee whereas apparently you didn’t remember that on November

24?

Mr. SENATOR. Because the waitress who waited on me was the one who said

it.

Mr. GRIFFIN. Did she say it to you?

Mr. SENATOR. No. She was behind the counter. Not specifically to me. It

was pretty loud.

Mr. GRIFFIN. Did they have a TV set on?

Mr. SENATOR. No; I don’t think so. I don’t know. She got her

information through either the phone, or they may have had a little

radio. I don’t remember just what it was, because I wasn’t looking

directly where she was walking around, or what she was doing, but she

was behind the counter, and I was sitting.

Mr. GRIFFIN. How much time elapsed between the time you learned that

Oswald had been shot and the time you learned that Ruby had been the

person who shot him?

Mr. SENATOR. I would probably say within 5 to 10 minutes, something

like that. It was a short while I know. It wasn’t long.

Mr. GRIFFIN. I’m going to mark a document which I have before me in the

following manner: “Washington, D.C., April 23, 1964, George Senator,

Deposition Exhibit 5401,” and I am going to sign my name to it.

This document which I have marked as a copy of an interview report

prepared by Special Agent Kenneth C. Howe of the Federal Bureau of

Investigation, of an interview on November 24, 1963, with you, Mr.

Senator. It consists of five pages, typewritten pages, and they are

numbered 296 to 300. I have marked on page 296, and I have not marked

the succeeding pages. I want to hand you this and ask you now to

take the time to read it over, and then I want to know if that is an

accurate report of what you told the FBI at that time.

I am not asking you whether, on further reflection, you would change

what you said in there, but merely whether that accurately reflects

what you told them at that time. If it doesn’t, why, will you point out

the parts that are not accurate, and we will see if we can’t correct it.

Mr. SENATOR. Shall I make little notations here?

Mr. GRIFFIN. Are there some places you want to change?

Mr. SENATOR. Yes.

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