Mr. SENATOR. Maybe I forgot a lot of things at that particular time,
being shook up.
Mr. GRIFFIN. You also didn’t mention in this statement that you gave
the police department on the 24th——
Mr. SENATOR. Didn’t what?
Mr. GRIFFIN. In the statement that you gave to the police department on
the 24th.
Mr. SENATOR. I didn’t mention what?
Mr. GRIFFIN. You did not mention anything about the telephone call from
Little Lynn.
Mr. SENATOR. Maybe I forgot that, too. Look, I told you. I was in a
shookup state that first day. Maybe I did forget about it.
Mr. GRIFFIN. I am just wondering if these things, if you thought in
your own mind that those events which you omitted——
Mr. SENATOR. Was I trying to hide something?
Mr. GRIFFIN. Well, could hurt Jack, and you wanted to help Jack.
Mr. SENATOR. I wasn’t trying to hide anything. I definitely was not
trying to hide anything. But you must understand, like I repeated,
any individual in an event like this, now I can’t speak for anybody
else, but I would probably say they would be shaken up like I was, and
I want you to know that I was really shook up, that that would make
a lot of people forget a lot of things, and probably can’t remember
things, being grabbed that fast and being talked to that fast in that
instantaneous—I was pretty well shaken up that day, very good.
Mr. GRIFFIN. But you did remember Jack talking about the President and
you mentioned you remembered that you thought you saw tears in his
eyes, and you remember his saying he was going to take his dog Sheba
down to the club. I am just wondering why it is you remembered some
of these things, but you didn’t remember some other things which were
just, perhaps should have been just as graphic, like going out to that
impeach Earl Warren sign—that must have just stood out as a sore thumb
to you.
Mr. SENATOR. There was no particular reason. Now maybe a lot of things
that I mentioned there that I possibly could have forgotten, too.
There was no particular reason for it. There was nothing that I was
trying to cover up or hide because I got nothing to hide.
Mr. GRIFFIN. I am not suggesting that in any sort of invidious sense.
Mr. SENATOR. It is just a shakeup of a fast brain, that is all, at the
moment, when all these things were happening.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Let me hand you what I have marked as “Washington, D.C.,
April 23, 1964, George Senator Deposition, Exhibit 5400,” and I will
sign my name to it. This is a copy of an affidavit which appears to
bear your signature which was sworn to before William F. Alexander on
November 24, 1963.
Mr. SENATOR. Is that the man who had me? I don’t remember who it was.
Mr. GRIFFIN. This is apparently the man who is a notary public who took
this statement. Look it over. Read it if you would. I hand it to you
now. Tell me if you remember signing that and if that is true.
Mr. SENATOR. That is, that is my signature.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Read it through to make sure as best you can remember that
that is a true copy of what you signed. It that a true copy of the
statement you signed?
Mr. SENATOR. To the best of my knowledge.
Mr. GRIFFIN. I wonder then if you would sign that under my name. I hand
you that pen back. As I understand it, then, immediately after you
signed this statement before Mr. Alexander, you were then interviewed
by an agent of the FBI.
Mr. SENATOR. Yes.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Now, were you shaken up in dealing with the FBI agent?
Mr. SENATOR. Sure.
Mr. GRIFFIN. In this same, or rather in this interview with the FBI,
the FBI reports you as telling them during that interview that you
learned of Oswald’s being shot just as you walked in the door of the
Eatwell Restaurant.
Mr. SENATOR. Just as I walked in? No.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Do you recall that?
Mr. SENATOR. No; I was sitting. I was sitting. I wasn’t walking in the
door. I was down on the seat and already had my first cup of coffee.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Also, one gets the impression from the FBI interview it
was your recollection on November 24 that you called Jim Martin after
you learned that Jack Ruby had shot Oswald.
Mr. SENATOR. No; before.
Mr. GRIFFIN. It was before you learned that?
Mr. SENATOR. Right. I called him—wait, wait. No; that is right. I did.
But I wasn’t home. That was it. I called him and spoke to his daughter,
one of his little girls.