Mr. HUBERT. Was Ruby——

Mr. SENATOR. Of course, I read in bed, you know. I read in bed.

Mr. HUBERT. Was Ruby there when you woke up, or not?

Mr. SENATOR. Yes; he was sleeping.

Mr. HUBERT. When did he waken?

Mr. SENATOR. Ruby must have woke up I assume it probably would have

been maybe—of course, I have to guess again—I would assume somewheres

around between 9 and 9:30.

Mr. HUBERT. Why don’t we put it in terms of how much after you did Ruby

wake up. In other words, no matter what time you awoke, can you tell us

how long after he awakened?

Mr. SENATOR. It could be maybe three-quarters of an hour or an hour. I

am not sure.

Mr. HUBERT. What is your first distinct recollection of him that

morning?

Mr. SENATOR. Well, the moment he got up he went to the bathroom, which

is normal for him.

Mr. HUBERT. Did you speak to him then?

Mr. SENATOR. Yes; I did. Of course, we turned on the TV. He had the TV

going. He turned it on to see what the latest news was. Then he went to

the bathroom. Of course, then he washed, and he went in and made his

own breakfast. I only had coffee. He made himself a couple of scrambled

eggs and coffee for himself, and he still had this look which didn’t

look good.

Mr. HUBERT. Again I want to ask you, can you give us a comparison

between the look that he had that morning, which you just described, as

opposed to what it was on other occasions in the sense of whether it

was growing worse or not?

Mr. SENATOR. He looked a little worse this day here. But if you ask me

how to break it down, how he looks worse, how can I express it? The

look in his eyes?

Mr. HUBERT. Well, is that one of the things?

Mr. SENATOR. Yes; that is the way it seems.

Mr. HUBERT. The way he talked or what he said?

Mr. SENATOR. The way he talked. He was even mumbling, which I didn’t

understand. And right after breakfast he got dressed. Then after he got

dressed he was pacing the floor from the living room to the bedroom,

from the bedroom to the living room, and his lips were going. What

he was jabbering I don’t know. But he was really pacing. What he was

thinking about——

Mr. HUBERT. That was after he was dressed?

Mr. SENATOR. Yes; now, what he was thinking about, I don’t know what he

was thinking about. But he did, which I forgot to tell you, he did get

that call from this Little Lynn from Western Union.

Mr. HUBERT. You remember the call?

Mr. SENATOR. Yes.

Mr. HUBERT. Did you answer the phone?

Mr. SENATOR. No; he had already been up.

Mr. HUBERT. How did you know it was Little Lynn?

Mr. SENATOR. I could hear him say. I heard him say Lynn, Western Union.

I heard him mention Western Union. I heard about the money and that he

was sending it to Fort Worth. She needed $25 for rent.

Mr. HUBERT. Did he tell you that?

Mr. SENATOR. I heard him mention $25 over the phone.

Mr. HUBERT. How did he mention it, that he would send $25?

Mr. SENATOR. He would send $25 to her by Western Union.

Mr. HUBERT. Did he mention that it was for rent?

Mr. SENATOR. Yes; he told me after it was for rent.

Mr. HUBERT. He told you?

Mr. SENATOR. Yes.

Mr. HUBERT. You didn’t hear Little Lynn ask for it?

Mr. SENATOR. I couldn’t hear it.

Mr. HUBERT. Of course not.

Mr. SENATOR. No.

Mr. HUBERT. Therefore he must have told you.

Mr. SENATOR. He said she called, and, of course, I knew it was Lynn

because I knew——

Mr. HUBERT. You knew who she was?

Mr. SENATOR. Sure.

Mr. HUBERT. But after he hung up, he told you that she needed $25 for

rent?

Mr. SENATOR. Yes.

Mr. HUBERT. Did he mention that she had called the night before?

Mr. SENATOR. No.

Mr. HUBERT. You did not know that at the time?

Mr. SENATOR. If she did I don’t know. This I don’t know.

Mr. HUBERT. Do you know what time that call was?

Mr. SENATOR. I don’t know. It could have been anywheres between 9:30, I

am not sure, maybe 10. I am not sure what time it was. See now——

Mr. HUBERT. Let’s get at it this way.

Mr. SENATOR. Now you are placing me from the time I woke up to the time

Jack woke up, but I say with all these things I still have to guess the

times.

Mr. HUBERT. That is why I am going to put it to you this way. The time

of the call is known, and that is why I would like you to relate events

backwards from that time, you see.

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