Mr. SENATOR. But the stresses.
Mr. HUBERT. The stress of having to carry the whole apartment when
Corbat left was one of the factors that put pressure upon you, is that
right?
Mr. SENATOR. Yes; it is the pressure of the extra amount of money.
Mr. HUBERT. You did not own an automobile of your own I take it?
Mr. SENATOR. No.
Mr. HUBERT. Have you ever?
Mr. SENATOR. Oh, when I was traveling the road; yes.
Mr. HUBERT. When was the last time you owned an automobile?
Mr. SENATOR. I don’t know, it must have been about 4 or 5 years ago.
Mr. HUBERT. What kind was it?
Mr. SENATOR. I think the last one I had was, I think it was a Buick.
Mr. HUBERT. Did you sell it?
Mr. SENATOR. Yes; I don’t remember if I sold it or traded it in.
Mr. HUBERT. You traded it in for what?
Mr. SENATOR. I had a Buick once. I mean I had a few Buicks. When I say
a few I mean there might have been about 3, and I had a Ford once I
believe.
Mr. HUBERT. In any case you haven’t owned a car of your own for about 4
or 5 years?
Mr. SENATOR. Yes.
Mr. HUBERT. And the last car you owned you must have sold it I suppose.
You couldn’t have traded it in because then you would have gotten a new
car.
Mr. SENATOR. I am trying to think what was I doing with the last car. I
think the last car, I think I lost it on payments. I couldn’t keep up
the payments if I am not mistaken, if that is the one. I think that is
it. I am not sure.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Let me interrupt a second to clarify one thing in my mind.
You mentioned this Volkswagen. The last time you had it was in January?
Mr. SENATOR. Yes.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Now what year?
Mr. SENATOR. 1964.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Just a couple of months ago?
Mr. SENATOR. Yes.
Mr. HUBERT. Coming to the first part of November 1963, was that when
you moved in with Jack?
Mr. SENATOR. Yes; I believe it was somewhere around the 1st or 2d of
November, something like that.
Mr. HUBERT. Then I suppose you went back to the routine of the general
mode of living and working with him that had existed before?
Mr. SENATOR. No; then I was helping him, I mean I was staying with
him, so I was helping him on weekends. Once in a while I would pop in
maybe on a weekday.