Mr. CRAFARD. I can’t remember the dates too well.
Mr. HUBERT. Well, it was the summer time?
Mr. CRAFARD. Yes, sir; it was in the summer. I believe it was in the
latter part of August or the middle of August, I am not sure.
Mr. HUBERT. Did she leave any note this time when she left?
Mr. CRAFARD. She left a note with some friends of ours in Port Angeles,
Wash.
Mr. HUBERT. What was the cause of her leaving, did she say?
Mr. CRAFARD. She didn’t say.
Mr. HUBERT. Did she leave any forwarding address?
Mr. CRAFARD. She had went to my brother’s in Los Angeles, Calif.
Mr. HUBERT. Which brother was that, that is the one in the Army?
Mr. CRAFARD. Crafard, yes, sir; Edward D.
Mr. HUBERT. How long did she stay with him?
Mr. CRAFARD. She was there about 2 weeks.
Mr. HUBERT. Where did she go?
Mr. CRAFARD. He brought her up to my folk’s place, I went from
Washington down to my folk’s place.
Mr. HUBERT. That is Dallas, Oreg.?
Mr. CRAFARD. He brought her up to my folk’s there, in Dallas, Oreg.
Mr. HUBERT. Did you have a reconciliation again?
Mr. CRAFARD. We tried a reconciliation. It didn’t work out.
Mr. HUBERT. So what happened?
Mr. CRAFARD. So subsequently, about 3 weeks later, I left home, my
folk’s place.
Mr. HUBERT. You left her there?
Mr. CRAFARD. No, sir.
Mr. HUBERT. She had already gone?
Mr. CRAFARD. No; she was still there over at my folk’s place.
Mr. HUBERT. That is what I mean, you left her there?
Mr. CRAFARD. Yes; I left her there.
Mr. HUBERT. Judging by the time schedule you had mentioned that would
have been around the middle of September, is that correct?
Mr. CRAFARD. I believe so; I am not sure.
Mr. HUBERT. Where did you go?
Mr. CRAFARD. Let’s see, I went to California. I went down on the coast
and I worked for a Chinese man down there raising strawberries.
Mr. HUBERT. How long did you stay there?
Mr. CRAFARD. I was there for about a week. And from there I went to
Long Beach, Calif. I went to work on the new Playland down on Long
Beach. I was there for about a month, I believe it was. Then I went to
Barstow, Calif., where I went to work for produce out there.
Mr. HUBERT. What was the name of that?
Mr. CRAFARD. I don’t remember the name of that outfit.
Mr. HUBERT. How long did you stay there?
Mr. CRAFARD. I was with him for about 3 or 4 weeks, I believe it was.
Mr. HUBERT. I take it that these jobs simply gave you enough money to
live on and save up a little so you could move to the next place?
Mr. CRAFARD. That is right.
Mr. HUBERT. All right. After that where did you go?
Mr. CRAFARD. I went to Michigan.
Mr. HUBERT. What place there?
Mr. CRAFARD. Fife Lake, Mich.
Mr. HUBERT. Where did you live there?
Mr. CRAFARD. I was there overnight. My sister and brother-in-law,
Ingersol lived there, and----
Mr. HUBERT. And you stayed with them?
Mr. CRAFARD. I stayed overnight there.
Mr. HUBERT. Then where did you go?
Mr. CRAFARD. Then I went to--down into the southern part of Michigan, I
joined another carnival down there.
Mr. HUBERT. What was the name of the carnival.
Mr. CRAFARD. Happyland Amusements.
Mr. HUBERT. Who was the owner of it?
Mr. CRAFARD. I am just trying to think of the name. I can think of the
first name but I can’t think of his last name.
Mr. HUBERT. Suppose you give us that.
Mr. CRAFARD. His first name was Bob. There were two brothers owned it.
Mr. HUBERT. How long did you stay with them?
Mr. CRAFARD. I was with them for about 3 weeks. We traveled from
Michigan to Memphis, Tenn. We played the Memphis Fair.
Mr. HUBERT. How long did you stay in Memphis?
Mr. CRAFARD. We was there for 2 weeks.
Mr. HUBERT. What was your next move?
Mr. CRAFARD. My next move was, while I was in Memphis I quit them and
went to work for Leonard Wood who owned a trabant.
Mr. HUBERT. What is that?
Mr. CRAFARD. It is one of the newest owned rides out, it is a
German-made ride.
Mr. HUBERT. Leonard Wood was his name?
Mr. CRAFARD. Yes, sir; that was in Memphis, Tenn.
Mr. HUBERT. And you joined him really to move, is that right?
Mr. CRAFARD. No. I made the move with a friend of mine.
Mr. HUBERT. I understood that you were working with the circus or
carnival operated by a man named Bob and his brother?
Mr. CRAFARD. Yes.
Mr. HUBERT. And you quit them to join Leonard Wood’s outfit.
Mr. CRAFARD. Yes; it was better pay.
Mr. HUBERT. How long did you stay with Wood?
Mr. CRAFARD. I was with them for, I think it was the last 4 days of the
fair, about 4 days.
Mr. HUBERT. Then you quit him?
Mr. CRAFARD. Actually I got fired from him. There was a girl there
that kept hanging around the ride and we couldn’t get rid of her and
everybody tried to get rid of her. She thought she was in love with me
or something.
Mr. HUBERT. So Leonard Wood fired you?
Mr. CRAFARD. Yes.
Mr. HUBERT. And what did you do next?
Mr. CRAFARD. I traveled to Dallas, Tex.
Mr. HUBERT. How did you travel?
Mr. CRAFARD. With a friend of mine, Mickey Spillane.
Mr. HUBERT. Mickey who?
Mr. CRAFARD. Mickey Corday.
Mr. HUBERT. How do you spell the last name?
Mr. CRAFARD. C-o-r-d-a-y.
Mr. HUBERT. How did you travel?
Mr. CRAFARD. Traveled down in his car.
Mr. HUBERT. Where is he from, do you know?
Mr. CRAFARD. I don’t know where his home is.
Mr. HUBERT. Did you know him prior to this time?
Mr. CRAFARD. I had seen him prior to this time and heard of him prior
to this time.
Mr. HUBERT. I mean it wasn’t a hitchhike?
Mr. CRAFARD. No, sir; I met him at the fairgrounds in Dallas, Tex., or
in Memphis.
Mr. HUBERT. Did you drive straight to Dallas?
Mr. CRAFARD. We drove straight to Dallas, Tex.
Mr. HUBERT. Now when you arrived in Dallas, what did you do?
Mr. CRAFARD. I went to work with an outfit “How Hollywood Makes Movies”
setup in the Dallas, Tex., State Fair.
Mr. HUBERT. Who was that?
Mr. CRAFARD. Deke Miles and Bob Craven.
Mr. HUBERT. Had you known them before?
Mr. CRAFARD. No.
Mr. HUBERT. What date was that?
Mr. CRAFARD. I don’t remember the date on that. It was the first day of
the fair.
Mr. HUBERT. It was the first day of what fair?
Mr. CRAFARD. The Dallas, Tex., State Fair.
Mr. GRIFFIN. This was in the fall of 1963?
Mr. CRAFARD. Yes.
Mr. HUBERT. How much money did you make with them?
Mr. CRAFARD. I made $5 a day.
Mr. HUBERT. Where did you live?
Mr. CRAFARD. I stayed in the tent. I was night watchman in the tent.
They had a lot of props and equipment in the tent.
Mr. HUBERT. In the meantime what happened to your wife?
Mr. CRAFARD. I had no idea.
Mr. HUBERT. To this day?
Mr. CRAFARD. To this day, I found out what had happened later but right
now I have no idea where she is at.
Mr. HUBERT. How long did she stay with your parents after you left?
Mr. CRAFARD. She was there with my parents for about 2 or 3 weeks and
then she took a job babysitting. She stayed there for about a week and
then she took sick I understand and was in the hospital for about 3
days. Was back with my parents for about a week and then they went to
Dallas, Tex. She left the boys with my parents, was in Dallas, Tex.,
for 2 or 3 weeks, then she went back up home and picked the boys up and
the last I had heard of she had went to Cuba, Mo., and left the boys
with a woman there in Cuba, Mo., and was paying her to take care of the
boys.
Mr. HUBERT. How did you find out all this?
Mr. CRAFARD. This woman in Missouri wrote to my mother, that is how I
found out she had been there and my mother told me what had happened
when she was still with them.
Mr. HUBERT. What is the last word you heard from your wife?
Mr. CRAFARD. How is that?
Mr. HUBERT. What is the last time you heard anything about her?
Mr. CRAFARD. The last time I heard anything about her, had any news or
had any knowledge of her whatsoever was about, on Saturday the 7th,
March 7 of this year.
Mr. HUBERT. You don’t know where she is now?
Mr. CRAFARD. No, sir.
Mr. HUBERT. Has she the children?
Mr. CRAFARD. Yes, sir; she has got the children.
Mr. HUBERT. When did you first meet Jack Ruby?
Mr. CRAFARD. I met Jack Ruby about the third day of the Dallas, Tex.,
State Fair, at the fairgrounds.
Mr. HUBERT. Tell us about how you met him.
Mr. CRAFARD. He was backing the--Mr. Craven and Mr. Miles, and he come
out there to talk to them.
Mr. HUBERT. Were you present when they spoke?
Mr. CRAFARD. I was out front when he come out there.