Captain JONES. In fact, I was told that if I wanted to go on my fishing
trip, I could go.
Mr. HUBERT. So, then you got back at what time?
Captain JONES. I would say somewhere roughly around 9 o'clock, couldn't
have been much after that.
Mr. HUBERT. Did you do anything between 9 and, say, 10 o'clock?
Captain JONES. Yes, sir; I sure did.
Mr. HUBERT. Tell us what you did.
Captain JONES. I was answering the telephone, and I can't recall
specific things. It was just things that come up that needed doing
right then. Getting calls----
Mr. HUBERT. Let me ask you the same question I asked about the other
period. Were you given any specific duties to do, or specific functions
as to supervising concerning the transfer of Oswald during this period
of 9 to, say, 11 o'clock, or roughly 11 o'clock, on the 24th?
Captain JONES. No, sir.
Mr. HUBERT. Were you simply answering the phone?
Captain JONES. I came in and started answering the phone, and started
doing whatever appeared necessary for me to do.
Mr. HUBERT. What then happened next?
Captain JONES. Well, that went on for almost 2 hours or somewhere near
that and then at approximately 11 o'clock is when Chief Stevenson came
to me, and I don't know whether he came in from one of the offices. I
was in the big lobby out front of the chief's office, but I came to the
double doors where the secretaries have their desks, and he came to
me and told me to go down to the basement of the city hall, go up the
Commerce Street ramp and place two officers there to assist an armored
truck that was en route to be used in the transfer of Oswald. Have
those two officers there assist that truck in backing down into the
basement as far as possible. "I don't know whether it will go all the
way or not," also to take any available detectives on the third floor
to the basement and place them where I thought they might be needed.
Mr. HUBERT. Did you follow those instructions?
Captain JONES. I did.
Mr. HUBERT. Can you tell us in what way you did so?
Captain JONES. All right, sir. I went to the automobile theft bureau,
juvenile bureau, my own forgery bureau and--burglary and theft bureau,
and got any detectives available to have them report to me at the jail
office, and it seems to me, as I say, as if two or three detectives
went with me. I couldn't tell you how many it was in the elevator going
down with me, but--nor who they were, but I do know that when we got to
the jail office I then asked them to remain in one place and I went out
the door on the ramp, or on the driveway and up the ramp to Commerce
Street, called Patrolman Jez and another officer, uniformed policeman,
then. Relayed Chief Stevenson's instructions not to leave there that
the truck was en route.
In coming back down the ramp I encountered Captain Talbert, who is in
charge of the patrol division, and because Chief Stevenson had sent
me down there to do that, I informed him of the instructions I had so
that he wouldn't inadvertently move them, and then I returned to the
officers in the basement--jail office, and just standing outside there.
And from here on in--many times--I can tell you most of the things that
happened. I am sure I may be a little unsure of the time, or sequence
of things, for there in a matter of a few minutes quite a lot of things
were done, but I returned into there and told the officers to remain
there, that----