TO LISTER ASQUITH.

Paris, September 26,1785.

Sir,

I have received your letter of September the 19th, with your log-book

and other papers. I now wait for the letter from your lawyer, as, till I

know the real nature and state of your process, it is impossible for me

to judge what can be done for you here. As soon as I receive them, you

shall hear from me. In the mean time, I supposed it would be a comfort

to you to know that your papers had come safe to hand, and that I shall

be attentive to do whatever circumstances will admit.

I am, Sir, your very humble servant,

Th: Jefferson.

LETTER CXV.--TO R. IZARD, September 26,1783

TO R. IZARD.

Paris, September 26,1783.

Dear Sir,

I received, a few days ago, your favor of the 10th of June, and am

to thank you for the trouble you have given yourself, to procure me

information on the subject of the commerce of your State. I pray you,

also, to take the trouble of expressing my acknowledgments to the

Governor and Chamber of Commerce, as well as to Mr. Hall, for the very

precise details on this subject, with which they have been pleased to

honor me. Your letter of last January, of which you make mention, never

came to my hands. Of course, the papers now received are the first and

only ones which have come safe. The infidelities of the post-offices,

both of England and France, are not unknown to you. The former are the

most rascally, because they retain one’s letters, not choosing to take

the trouble of copying them. The latter, when they have taken copies,

are so civil as to send the originals, re-sealed clumsily with a

composition, on which they had previously taken the impression of the

seal. England shows no dispositions to enter into friendly connections

with us. On the contrary, her detention of our posts, seems to be the

speck which is to produce a storm. I judge that a war with America would

be a popular war in England. Perhaps the situation of Ireland may deter

the ministry from hastening it on. Peace is at length made between the

Emperor and Dutch. The terms are not published, but it is said he gets

ten millions of florins, the navigation of the Scheldt not quite to

Antwerp, and two forts. However, this is not to be absolutely relied on.

The league formed by the King of Prussia against the Emperor is a most

formidable obstacle to his ambitious designs. It certainly has defeated

his views on Bavaria, and will render doubtful the election of his

nephew to be King of the Romans. Matters are not yet settled between him

and the Turk. In truth, he undertakes too much. At home he has made some

good regulations.

Your present pursuit being (the wisest of all) agriculture, I am not in

a situation to be useful to it. You know that France is not the country

most celebrated for this art. I went the other day to see a plough which

was to be worked by a windlass, without horses or oxen. It was a poor

affair. With a very troublesome apparatus, applicable only to a

dead level, four men could do the work of two horses. There seems a

possibility that the great _desideratum_ in the use of the balloon may

be obtained. There are two persons at Javel (opposite to Auteuil) who

are pushing this matter. They are able to rise and fall at will, without

expending their gas, and they can deflect forty-five degrees from the

course of the wind.

I took the liberty of asking you to order me a Charleston newspaper.

The expense of French postage is so enormous that I have been obliged to

desire that my newspapers, from the different States, may be sent to the

office for Foreign Affairs at New York; and I have requested of Mr. Jay

to have them always packed in a box, and sent by the French packets as

merchandise to the care of the American consul at L’Orient, who will

send them on by the periodical wagons. Will you permit me to add this

to the trouble I have before given you, of ordering the printer to send

them under cover to Mr. Jay, by such opportunities by water, as occur

from time to time. This request must go to the acts of your Assembly

also. I shall be on the watch to send you any thing that may appear

here on the subjects of agriculture or the arts, which may be worth your

perusal, I sincerely congratulate Mrs. Izard and yourself on the double

accession to your family by marriage and a new birth. My daughter values

much your remembrance of her, and prays to have her respects presented

to the ladies and yourself. In this I join her, and shall embrace with

pleasure every opportunity of assuring you of the sincere esteem, with

which I have the honor to be, Dear Sir, your most obedient

and most humble servant,

Th: Jefferson.

LETTER CXVI.--TO RICHARD O’BRYAN, September 29, 1785

TO RICHARD O’BRYAN.

Paris, September 29, 1785.

Sir,

I have received your letter, and shall exert myself for you. Be assured

of hearing from me soon: but say nothing to any body, except what may be

necessary to comfort your companions. I add no more, because the fate of

this letter is uncertain. I am, Sir,

your very humble servant,

Th: Jefferson.

LETTER CXVII.--TO MR. BELLINI, September 30,1785

TO MR. BELLINI.

Paris, September 30,1785.

Dear Sir,

Your estimable favor, covering a letter to Mr. Mazzei, came to hand on

the 26th instant. The letter to Mr. Mazzei was put into his hands in the

same moment, as he happened to be present. I leave to him to convey to

you all his complaints, as it will be more agreeable to me to express

to you the satisfaction I received, on being informed of your perfect

health. Though I could not receive the same pleasing news of Mrs.

Bellini, yet the philosophy, with which I am told she bears the loss of

health, is a testimony the more, how much she deserved the esteem I

bear her. Behold me at length on the vaunted scene of Europe! It is

not necessary for your information, that I should enter into details

concerning it. But you are, perhaps, curious to know how this new scene

has struck a savage of the mountains of America. Not advantageously, I

assure you. I find the general fate of humanity here most deplorable.

The truth of Voltaire’s observation offers itself perpetually, that

every man here must be either the hammer or the anvil. It is a true

picture of that country to which they say we shall pass hereafter, and

where we are to see God and his angels in splendor, and crowds of the

damned trampled under their feet. While the great mass of the people are

thus suffering under physical and moral oppression, I have endeavored to

examine more nearly the condition of the great, to appreciate the true

value of the circumstances in their situation which dazzle the bulk of

spectators, and, especially, to compare it with that degree of happiness

which is enjoyed in America by every class of people. Intrigues of love

occupy the younger, and those of ambition the elder part of the great.

Conjugal love having no existence among them, domestic happiness,

of which that is the basis, is utterly unknown. In lieu of this, are

substituted pursuits which nourish and invigorate all our bad passions,

and which offer only moments of ecstacy, amidst days and months of

restlessness and torment. Much, very much inferior, this, to the

tranquil, permanent felicity, with which domestic society in America

blesses most of its inhabitants; leaving them to follow steadily those

pursuits which health and reason approve, and rendering truly delicious

the intervals of those pursuits.

In science, the mass of the people is two centuries behind ours; their

literati, half a dozen years before us. Books, really good, acquire just

reputation in that time, and so become known to us, and communicate to

us all their advances in knowledge. Is not this delay compensated,

by our being placed out of the reach of that swarm of nonsensical

publications, which issues daily from a thousand presses, and perishes

almost in issuing? With respect to what are termed polite manners,

without sacrificing too much the sincerity of language, I would wish my

countrymen to adopt just so much of European politeness, as to be

ready to make all those little sacrifices of self, which really render

European manners amiable, and relieve society from the disagreeable

scenes to which rudeness often subjects it. Here, it seems that a

man might pass a life without encountering a single rudeness. In the

pleasures of the table they are far before us, because with good taste

they unite temperance. They do not terminate the most sociable meals by

transforming themselves into brutes. I have never yet seen a man drunk

in France, even among the lowest of the people. Were I to proceed to

tell you how much I enjoy their architecture, sculpture, painting,

music, I should want words. It is in these arts they shine. The last of

them, particularly, is an enjoyment, the deprivation of which with us

cannot be calculated. I am almost ready to say, it is the only thing

which from my heart I envy them, and which, in spite of all the

authority of the Decalogue, I do covet. But I am running on in an

estimate of things infinitely better known to you than to me, and which

will only serve to convince you, that I have brought with me all the

prejudices of country, habit, and age. But whatever I may allow to

be charged to me as prejudice, in every other instance, I have one

sentiment at least founded on reality: it is that of the perfect esteem

which your merit and that of Mrs. Bellini have produced, and which will

for ever enable me to assure you of the sincere regard with which I am,

Dear Sir,

your friend and servant,

Th: Jefferson.

LETTER CXVIII.--JAMES MADISON, October 2, 1785

JAMES MADISON, of William and Mary College.

Paris, October 2, 1785.

Dear Sir,

I have duly received your favor of April the 10th, by Mr. Mazzei. You

therein speak of a new method of raising water by steam, which you

suppose will come into general use. I know of no new method of that

kind, and suppose (as you say that the account you have received of it

is very imperfect) that some person has represented to you, as new, a

fire-engine erected at Paris, and which supplies the greater part of the

town with water. But this is nothing more than the fire-engine you

have seen described in the books of hydraulics, and particularly in the

Dictionary of Arts and Sciences, published in 8vo, by Owen, the idea of

which was first taken from Papin’s Digester. It would have been better

called the steam-engine. The force of the steam of water, you know, is

immense. In this-engine it is made to exert itself towards the working

of pumps. That of Paris is, I believe, the largest known, raising four

hundred thousand cubic feet (French) of water, in twenty-four hours; or

rather I should have said, those of Paris, for there are two under one

roof, each raising that quantity.

The Abbe Rochon not living at Paris, I have not had an opportunity of

seeing him, and of asking him the questions you desire, relative to

the crystal of which I wrote you. I shall avail myself of the earliest

opportunity I can, of doing it. I shall cheerfully execute your commands

as to the _Encyclopédie_, when I receive them. The price will be only

thirty guineas. About half the work is out. The volumes of your Buffon,

which are spoiled, can be replaced here.

I expect that this letter will be carried by the Mr. Fitzhughs, in

a ship from Havre to Portsmouth. I have therefore sent to Havre some

books, which I expected would be acceptable to you. These are the

_Bibliothèque Physico-oeconomique_, which will give you most of the

late improvements in the arts; the _Connoissance des Terns_ for 1786 and

1787, which is as late as they are published; and some pieces on air and

fire, wherein you will find all the discoveries hitherto made on these

subjects. These books are made into a packet, with your address on

them, and are put into a trunk wherein is a small packet for Mr. Wythe,

another for Mr. Page, and a parcel of books, without direction, for

Peter Carr. I have taken the liberty of directing the trunk to you, as

the surest means of its getting safe. I pay the freight of it here, so

that there will be no new demands, but for the transportation from the

ship’s side to Williamsburg, which I will pray you to pay; and as much

the greatest part is for my nephew, I will take care to repay it to you.

In the last volume of the _Connoissance des Terns_, you will find the

tables for the planet Herschel. It is a curious circumstance, that this

planet was seen thirty years ago by Mayer, and supposed by him to be a

fixed star. He accordingly determined a place for it, in his catalogue

of the zodiacal stars, making it the 964th of that catalogue. Bode,

of Berlin, observed in 1781, that this star was missing. Subsequent

calculations of the motion of the planet Herschel show, that it must

have been, at the time of Mayer’s observation, where he had placed his

964th star.

Herschel has pushed his discoveries of double stars, now, to upwards

of nine hundred, being twice the number of those communicated in the

Philosophical Transactions. You have probably seen, that a Mr. Pigott

had discovered periodical variations of light in the star Algol. He

has observed the same in the _n_ of Antinous, and makes the period of

variation seven days, four hours, and thirty minutes, the duration of

the increase sixty-three hours, and of the decrease thirty-six hours.

What are we to conclude from this? That there are suns which have their

orbits of revolution too? But this would suppose a wonderful harmony

in their planets, and present a new scene, where the attracting powers

should be without, and not within the orbit. The motion of our sun would

be a miniature of this. But this must be left to you astronomers.

I went some time ago to see a machine, which offers something new. A man

had applied to a light boat, a very large screw, the thread of which was

a thin plate, two feet broad, applied by its edge spirally round a small

axis. It somewhat resembled a bottle-brush, if you will suppose the

hairs of the bottle-brush joining together, and forming a spiral plane.

This, turned on its axis in the air, carried the vessel across the

Seine. It is, in fact, a screw which takes hold of the air and draws

itself along by it: losing, indeed, much of its effort by the yielding

nature of the body it lays hold of, to pull itself on by. I think it

may be applied in the water with much greater effect, and to very useful

purposes Perhaps it may be used also for the balloon.

It is impossible but you must have heard long ago of the machine for

copying letters at a single stroke, as we had received it in America

before I left there. I have written a long letter to my nephew, in whose

education I feel myself extremely interested. I shall rely much on your

friendship for conducting him in the plan I mark out for him, and for

guarding him against those shoals, on which youth sometimes shipwreck. I

trouble you to present to Mr. Wythe my affectionate remembrance of him,

and am with very great esteem, Dear Sir,

your friend and servant,

Th: Jefferson.

LETTER CXIX.--TO DR. FRANKLIN, October 5,1785

TO DR. FRANKLIN.

Paris, October 5,1785.

Dear Sir,

A vessel sailing from Havre to Philadelphia, furnishes the Messrs.

Fitzhughs with a passage to that place. To them, therefore, I confide a

number of letters and packets which I have received for you from sundry

quarters, and which, I doubt not, they will deliver safe. Among these is

one from M. Du Plessis. On receipt of your letter, in answer to the

one I had written you, on the subject of his memorial, I sent to M. La

Motte, M. Chaumont, and wherever else I thought there was a probability

of finding out Du Plessis’ address. But all in vain. I meant to examine

his memoir, as you desired, and to have it copied. Lately, he came and

brought it with him, copied by himself. He desired me to read it, and

enclose it to you, which I have done.

We have no public news worth communicating to you, but the signing of

preliminaries between the Emperor and Dutch. The question is, then, with

whom the Emperor will pick the next quarrel. Our treaty with Prussia

goes by this conveyance. But it is not to be spoken of till a convenient

time is allowed for exchanging ratifications.

Science offers nothing new since your departure, nor any new publication

worth your notice. All your friends here are well. Those in England

have carried you captive to Algiers. They have published a letter, as

if written by Truxen, the 20th of August, from Algiers, stating

the circumstances of the capture, and that you bore your slavery to

admiration. I happened to receive a letter from Algiers, dated August

the 24th, informing me that two vessels were then there, taken from us,

and naming the vessels and captains. This was a satisfactory proof to

us, that you were not there. The fact being so, we would have gladly

dispensed with the proof, as the situation of our countrymen there was

described as very distressing.

Were I to mention all those who make inquiries after you, there would be

no end to my letter. I cannot, however, pass over those of the good old

Countess d’Hoditot, with whom I dined on Saturday, at Sanois. They were

very affectionate. I hope you have had a good passage. Your essay in

crossing the channel gave us great hopes you would experience little

inconvenience on the rest of the voyage. My wishes place you in the

bosom of your friends, in good health, and with a well grounded prospect

of preserving it long, for your own sake, for theirs, and that of the

world.

I am, with the sincerest attachment and respect, Dear Sir,

your most obedient

and most humble servant,

Th: Jefferson.

LETTER CXX.--TO SAMUEL OSGOOD, October 5, 1785

TO SAMUEL OSGOOD.

Paris, October 5, 1785.

Dear Sir,

It was with very sincere pleasure I heard of your appointment to

the board of treasury, as well from the hope that it might not

be disagreeable to yourself, as from the confidence that your

administration would be wise. I heartily wish the States may, by their

contributions, enable you to re-establish a credit, which cannot be

lower than at present, to exist at all. This is partly owing to their

real deficiencies, and partly to the lies propagated by the London

papers, which are probably paid for by the minister, to reconcile the

people to the loss of us. Unluckily, it indisposes them, at the same

time, to form rational connections with us. Should this produce the

amendment of our federal constitution, of which your papers give us

hopes, we shall receive a permanent indemnification for a temporary

loss.

All things here promise an arrangement between the Emperor and Dutch.

Their ministers have signed preliminary articles, some of which,

however, leave room for further cavil. The Dutch pay ten millions of

florins, yield some forts and territory, and the navigation of the

Scheldt to Saftingen. Till our treaty with England be fully executed,

it is desirable to us, that all the world should be in peace. That done,

their wars would do us little harm.

I find myself under difficulties here, which I will take the liberty of

explaining to you as a friend. Mr. Carmichael lately drew a bill on

Mr. Grand for four thousand livres, I suppose for his salary. Mr.

Grand said, he was not used to accept drafts but by the desire of Dr.

Franklin, and rested it on me to say, whether this bill should be paid

or not. I thought it improper, that the credit of so confidential

a person, as Mr. Carmichael, should be affected by a refusal, and

therefore advised payment. Mr. Dumas has drawn on me for twenty-seven

hundred livres, his half year’s salary, informing me he always drew on

Dr. Franklin. I shall advise the payment. I have had loan-office bills,

drawn on the commissioners of the United States, presented to me. My

answer has been, ‘These are very old bills. Had they been presented

while those gentlemen were in Europe, they would have been paid. You

have kept them up till Dr. Franklin, the last of them, has returned to

America; you must therefore send them there, and they will be paid. I am

not the drawee described in the bill.’ It is impossible for me to meddle

with these bills. The gentlemen who had been familiar with them, from

the beginning, who kept books of them, and knew well the form of these

books, often paid bills twice. But how can I interfere with them,

who have not a scrip of a pen on their subject, who never saw a book

relating to them, and who, if I had the books, should much oftener be

bewildered in the labyrinth, than the gentlemen who have kept them? I

think it, therefore, most advisable, that what bills remain out, should

be sent back to America for payment, and therefore advise Mr. Barclay to

return thither all the books and papers relative to them. There, is the

proper and ultimate deposite of all records of this nature. All

these articles are very foreign to my talents, and foreign also, as I

conceive, to the nature of my duties. Dr. Franklin was obliged to meddle

with them, from the circumstances which existed. But, these having

ceased, I suppose it practicable for your board to direct the

administration of your monies here, in every circumstance. It is only

necessary for me to draw my own allowances, and to order payment for

services done by others, by my direction, and within the immediate line

of my office; such as paying couriers, postage, and other extraordinary

services, which must rest on my discretion, and at my risk, if

disapproved by Congress. I will thank you for your advice on this

subject, and if you think a resolution of your board necessary, I will

pray you to send me such a one, and that it may relieve me from all

concerns with the money of the United States, other than those I have

just spoken of. I do not mean by this to testify a disposition to render

no service but what is rigorously within my duty. I am the farthest in

the world from this; it is a question I shall never ask myself; nothing

making me more happy than to render any service in my power of whatever

description. But I wish only to be excused from intermeddling in

business, in which I have no skill, and should do more harm than good.

Congress were pleased to order me an advance of two quarters’ salary. At

that time, I supposed that I might refund it, or spare so much from my

expenses, by the time the third quarter became due. Probably, they might

expect the same. But it has been impossible. The expense of my outfit,

though I have taken it up on a scale as small as could be admitted, has

been very far beyond what I had conceived. I have, therefore, not only

been unable to refund the advance ordered, but been obliged to go beyond

it. I wished to have avoided so much, as was occasioned by the purchase

of furniture. But those who hire furniture, asked me forty per cent,

a year for the use of it. It was better to buy, therefore; and this

article, clothes, carriage, &c. have amounted to considerably more than

the advance ordered. Perhaps it may be thought reasonable to allow me an

outfit. The usage of every other nation has established this, and reason

really pleads for it. I do not wish to make a shilling; but only my

expenses to be defrayed, and in a moderate style. On the most moderate,

which the reputation or interest of those I serve would admit, it will

take me several years to liquidate the advances for my outfit. I mention

this, to enable you to understand the necessities which have obliged me

to call for more money than was probably expected, and, understanding

them, to explain them to others. Being perfectly disposed to conform

myself decisively to what shall be thought proper, you cannot oblige me

more, than by communicating to me your sentiments hereon, which I shall

receive as those of a friend, and govern myself accordingly.

I am, with the most perfect esteem, Dear Sir,

your friend and servant,

Th: Jefferson.

LETTER CXXI.--TO JOHN JAY, October 6, 1785

TO JOHN JAY.

Paris, October 6, 1785.

Sir,

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