Several of your letters have been received, and we have been occupied

in endeavors to have you discharged: but these have been ineffectual. If

our information be right, you are mistaken in supposing you are already

condemned. The Farmers General tell us, you are to be tried at Brest,

and this trial may perhaps be a month hence. From that court you

may appeal to the Parliament of Rennes, and from that to the King in

Council. They say, that from the depositions sent to them, there can be

no doubt you came to smuggle, and that in that case, the judgment of the

law is a forfeiture of the vessel and cargo, a fine of a thousand

livres on each of you, and six years’ condemnation to the galleys. These

several appeals will be attended with considerable expense. They offer

to discharge your persons and vessel (but not the cargo) on your paying

two thousand livres, and the costs already incurred; which are three or

four hundred more. You will therefore choose, whether to go through the

trial, or to compromise, and you are the best judge, what may be the

evidence for or against you. In either case, I shall render you all the

service I can. I will add, that if you are disposed to have the matter

tried, I am of opinion, that, if found against you, there will be no

danger of their sending you to the galleys; so that you may decide what

course you will take, without any bias from that fear. If you choose to

compromise, I will endeavor to have it done for you, on the best terms

we can. I fear they will abate little from the two thousand livres,

because Captain Deville, whom you sent here, fixed the matter by

offering that sum, and has done you more harm than good. I shall be glad

if you will desire your lawyer to make out a state of your case, (which

he may do in French,) and send it to me. Write me also yourself a plain

and full narration of your voyage, and the circumstances which have

brought so small a vessel, with so small a cargo, from America into

France. As far as we yet know them, they are not in your favor. Inform

me who you are, and what papers you have on board. But do not state to

me a single fact which is not true: for if I am led by your information

to advance any thing which they shall prove to be untrue, I will abandon

your case from that moment: whereas, sending me a true statement, I will

make the best of it I can. Mr. Barclay, the American consul, will be

here some few days yet. He will be, as he has already been, of much

service to you, if the information I ask both from yourself and your

lawyer, can come before his departure. I repeat my assurances of doing

whatever I can for you, and am, Sir,

your very humble servant,

Th: Jefferson.

LETTER CVIII.--TO JOHN ADAMS, September 19, 1785

TO JOHN ADAMS.

Paris, September 19, 1785.

Dear Sir,

Lambe has arrived. He brings new full powers to us from Congress, to

appoint persons to negotiate with the Barbary States; but we are to sign

the treaties. Lambe has not even a recommendation from them to us, but

it seems clear that he would be approved by them. I told him of Mr.

Barclay’s appointment to Morocco, and proposed Algiers to him. He

agrees. A small alteration in the form of our despatches will be

necessary, and, of course, another courier shall be despatched to you on

the return of Colonel Franks, for your pleasure herein.

I am, with great esteem,

your friend and servant,

Th: Jefferson.*

[* The original of the above was in cipher; though, as in

the case of most of the Author’s letters in cipher, he

prepared and preserved a literal copy of it.]

LETTER CIX.--TO JAMES MADISON, September 20, 1785

TO JAMES MADISON.

Paris, September 20, 1785.

Dear Sir,

By Mr. Fitzhugh, you will receive my letter of the first instant. He

is still here, and gives me an opportunity of again addressing you much

sooner than I should have done, but for the discovery of a great piece

of inattention. In that letter I send you a detail of the cost of your

books, and desire you to keep the amount in your hands, as if I had

forgot that a part of it was in fact your own, as being a balance of

what I had remained in your debt. I really did not attend to it in the

moment of writing, and when it occurred to me, I revised my memorandum

book from the time of our being in Philadelphia together, and stated our

account from the beginning, lest I should forget or mistake any part of

it. I enclose you this statement. You will always be so good as to let

me know, from time to time, your advances for me. Correct with freedom

all my proceedings for you, as, in what I do, I have no other desire

than that of doing exactly what will be most pleasing to you.

I received this summer a letter from Messrs. Buchanan and Hay, as

Directors of the public buildings desiring I would have drawn for them

plans of sundry buildings, and, in the first place, of a capital. They

fixed; for their receiving this plan, a day which Was within about

six weeks of that on which their letter came to my hand. I engaged

an architect of capital abilities in this business. Much time was

requisite, after the external form was agreed on, to make the internal

distribution convenient for the three branches of government. This time

was much lengthened by my avocations to other objects, which I had no

right to neglect. The plan however Was settled. The gentlemen had

sent me one which they had thought of. The one agreed on here is more

convenient, more beautiful, gives more room, and will not cost more than

two thirds of what that would. We took for our model what is called the

_Maison Quarrée_ (Nismes), one of the most beautiful, if not the most

beautiful and precious morsel of architecture left us by antiquity. It

was built by Caius and Lucius Cæsar, and repaired by Louis XIV., and

has the suffrage of all the judges of architecture who have seen it, as

yielding to no one of the beautiful monuments of Greece, Rome, Palmyra,

and Balbec, which late travellers have communicated to us. It is very

simple, but it is noble beyond expression, and would have done honor

to our country, as presenting to travellers a specimen of taste in our

infancy, promising much for our maturer age. I have been much mortified

with information, which I received two days ago from Virginia, that the

first brick of the Capitol would be laid within a few days. But surely,

the delay of this piece of a summer would have been repaired by

the savings in the plan preparing here, were we to value its other

superiorities as nothing. But how is a taste in this beautiful art to

be formed in our countrymen, unless we avail ourselves of every occasion

when public buildings are to be erected, of presenting to them models

for their study and imitation? Pray try if you can effect the slopping

of this work. I have written also to E. R. on the subject. The loss will

be only of the laying the bricks already laid, or a part of them. The

bricks themselves will do again for the interior walls, and one side

wall and one end wall may remain, as they will answer equally well for

our plan. This loss is not to be weighed against the saving of money

which will arise, against the comfort of laying out the public money for

something honorable, the satisfaction of seeing an object and proof

of national good taste, and the regret and mortification of erecting a

monument of our barbarism, which will be loaded with execrations as long

as it shall endure. The plans are in good forwardness, and I hope will

be ready within three or four weeks. They could not be stopped now,

but on paying their whole price, which will be considerable. If the

undertakers are afraid to undo what they have done, encourage them to it

by a recommendation from the Assembly. You see I am an enthusiast on the

subject of the arts. But it is an enthusiasm of which I am not ashamed,

as its object is to improve the taste of my countrymen, to increase

their reputation, to reconcile to them the respect of the world, and

procure them its praise.

I shall send off your books, in two trunks, to Havre, within two or

three days, to the care of Mr. Limozin, American agent there. I will

advise you, as soon as I know by what vessel he forwards them. Adieu.

Yours affectionately,

Th: Jefferson.

LETTER CX.--TO EDMUND RANDOLPH, September 20,1785

TO EDMUND RANDOLPH.

Paris, September 20,1785.

Dear Sir,

Being in your debt for ten volumes of Buffon, I have endeavored to

find something that would be agreeable to you to receive, in return. I

therefore send you, by way of Havre, a dictionary of law, natural and

municipal, in thirteen volumes 4to, called _Le Code de l’Humanité_. It

is published by Felice, but written by him and several other authors of

established reputation. It is an excellent work. I do not mean to say,

that it answers fully to its title. That would have required fifty times

the volume. It wants many articles which the title would induce us to

seek in it. But the articles which it contains are well written. It is

better than the voluminous _Dictionnaire Diplomatique_, and better also

than the same branch of the _Encyclopédie Méthodigue_. There has been

nothing published here, since I came, of extraordinary merit. The

_Encyclopédie Méthodique_, which is coming out from time to time, must

be excepted from this. It is to be had at two guineas less than the

subscription price. I shall be happy to send you any thing in this way

which you may desire. French books are to be bought here for two thirds

of what they can in England. English and Greek and Latin authors cost

from twenty-five to fifty per cent, more here than in England.

I received, some time ago, a letter from Messrs. Hay and Buchanan, as

Directors of the public buildings, desiring I would have plans drawn for

our public buildings, and in the first place for the capitol. I did not

receive their letter till within about six weeks of the time they

had fixed on for receiving the drawings. Nevertheless, I engaged an

excellent architect to comply with their desire. It has taken much

time to accommodate the external adopted, to the internal arrangement

necessary for the three branches of government. However, it is effected

on a plan, which, with a great deal of beauty and convenience within,

unites an external form on the most perfect model of antiquity now

existing. This is the _Maison Quarrée_ of Nismes, built by Caius and

Lucius Cæsar, and repaired by Louis XIV., which, in the opinion of all

who have seen it, yields, in beauty, to no piece of architecture on

earth. The gentlemen enclosed me a plan of which they had thought. The

one preparing here will be more convenient, give more room, and cost but

two thirds of that: and as a piece of architecture, doing honor to our

country, will leave nothing to be desired. The plans will be ready soon.

But, two days ago, I received a letter from Virginia, informing me

the first brick of the capitol would be laid within a few days. This

mortifies my extremely. The delay of this summer would have been amply

repaid by the superiority and economy of the plan preparing here. Is it

impossible to stop the work where it is? You will gain money by losing

what is done, and general approbation, instead of occasioning a regret,

which will endure as long as your building does. How is a taste for a

chaste and good style of building to be formed in our countrymen, unless

we seize all occasions which the erection of public buildings offers,

of presenting to them models for their imitation? Do, my dear Sir, exert

your influence to stay the further progress of the work, till you can

receive these plans. You will only lose the price of laying what bricks

are already laid, and of taking part of them asunder. They will do again

for the inner walls. A plan for a prison will be sent at the same time.

Mazzei is here, and in pressing distress for money. I have helped him as

far as I have been able, but particular circumstances put it out of my

power to do more. He is looking with anxiety to the arrival of every

vessel, in hopes of relief through your means. If he does not receive it

soon, it is difficult to foresee his fate.

The quiet which Europe enjoys at present, leaves nothing to communicate

to you in the political way. The Emperor and Dutch still differ about

the quantum of money to be paid by the latter; they know not for what.

Perhaps their internal convulsions will hasten them to a decision.

France is improving her navy, as if she were already in a naval war: yet

I see no immediate prospect of her having occasion for it. England is

not likely to offer war to any nation, unless, perhaps, to ours. This

would cost us our whole shipping: but in every other respect, we might

flatter ourselves with success. But the most successful war seldom pays

for its losses. I shall be glad to hear from you when convenient, and

am, with much esteem, Dear Sir,

your friend and servant,

Th: Jefferson.

LETTER CXI.--TO JOHN ADAMS, September 24, 1785

TO JOHN ADAMS.

Paris, September 24, 1785.

Dear Sir,

I have received your favor of the 18th, enclosing your compliments on

your presentation. The sentiments you therein expressed, were such as

were entertained in America till the commercial proclamation, and such

as would again return, were a rational conduct to be adopted by Great

Britain. I think, therefore, you by no means compromitted yourself

or our country, nor expressed more than it would be our interest to

encourage, if they were disposed to meet us. I am pleased, however,

to see the answer of the King. It bears the marks of suddenness and

surprise, and as he seems not to have had time for reflection, we may

suppose he was obliged to find his answer in the real sentiments of his

heart if that heart has any sentiment. I have no doubt however that it

contains the real creed of an Englishman, and that the word which he

has let escape is the true word of the enigma. ‘The moment I see such

sentiments as yours prevail, and a disposition to give this country

the preference, I will,’ &c. All this I steadfastly believe. But the

condition is impossible. Our interest calls for a perfect equality in

our conduct towards these two nations; but no preferences any where.

If, however, circumstances should ever oblige us to show a preference,

a respect for our character, if we had no better motive, would decide to

which it should be given.

My letters from members of Congress render it doubtful, whether

they would not rather that full time should be given for the present

disposition of America to mature itself, and to produce a permanent

improvement in the federal constitution, rather than, by removing the

incentive, to prevent the improvement. It is certain that our commerce

is in agonies at present, and that these would be relieved by opening

the British ports in the West Indies. It remains to consider, whether a

temporary continuance under these sufferings would be paid for, by the

amendment it is likely to produce. However, I believe there is no fear

that Great Britain will puzzle us, by leaving it in our choice to hasten

or delay a treaty.

Is insurance made on Houdon’s life? I am uneasy about it, lest we should

hear of any accident. As yet there is no reason to doubt their safe

passage. If the insurance is not made, I will pray you to have it done

immediately.

As I have not received any London newspapers as yet, I am obliged to

ask you what is done as to them, lest the delay should proceed from some

obstacle to be removed.

There is a Mr. Thompson at Dover, who has proposed to me a method of

getting them post-free: but I have declined resorting to it, till I

should know in what train the matter is at present.

I have the honor to be, with the most perfect esteem, Dear Sir,

your friend and servant,

Th: Jefferson.

LETTER CXII.--TO JOHN ADAMS, September 24,1785

TO JOHN ADAMS.

Paris, September 24,1785.

Dear Sir,

My letter of September the 19th, written the morning after Mr. Lambe’s

arrival here, will inform you of that circumstance. I transmit you

herewith, copies of the papers he brought to us on the subject of the

Barbary treaties. You will see by them, that Congress have adopted the

very plan which we were proposing to pursue. It will now go on with less

danger of objection from the other parties. The receipt of these new

papers, therefore, has rendered necessary no change, in matter of

substance, in the despatches we had prepared. But they render some

formal changes necessary. For instance, in our letter of credence for

Mr. Barclay to the Emperor of Morocco, it becomes improper to enter

into those explanations which seemed proper when that letter was drawn;

because Congress in their letter enter into those explanations. In the

letter to the Count de Vergennes, it became proper to mention the new

full powers received from Congress, and which, in some measure, accord

with the idea communicated by him to us, from the Marechal de Castries.

These and other formal alterations, which appeared necessary to me,

I have made, leaving so much of the original draughts, approved and

amended by you, as were not inconsistent with these alterations. I have

therefore had these prepared fair, to save you the trouble of copying;

yet, wherever you choose to make alterations, you will be so good as to

make them; taking, in that case, the trouble of having new fair copies

made out.

You will perceive by Mr. Jay’s letter, that Congress had not thought

proper to give Mr. Lambe any appointment. I imagine they apprehended it

might interfere with measures actually taken by us. Notwithstanding the

perfect freedom which they are pleased to leave to us, on this subject,

I cannot feel myself clear of that bias, which a presumption of their

pleasure gives, and ought to give. I presume that Mr. Lambe met their

approbation, because of the recommendations he carried from the Governor

and State of Connecticut, because of his actual knowledge of the country

and people of the States of Barbary, because of the detention of these

letters from March to July, which, considering their pressing-nature,

would otherwise have been sent by other Americans, who, in the mean

time, have come from New York to Paris; and because, too, of the

information we received by Mr. Jarvis. These reasons are not strong

enough to set aside our appointment of Mr. Barclay to Morocco: that I

think should go on, as no man could be sent who would enjoy more the

confidence of Congress. But they are strong enough to induce me to

propose to you the appointment of Lambe to Algiers. He has followed for

many years the Barbary trade, and seems intimately acquainted with those

States. I have not seen enough of him to judge of his abilities. He

seems not deficient, as far as I can see, and the footing on which he

comes, must furnish a presumption for what we do not see. We must

say the same as to his integrity; we must rely for this on the

recommendations he brings, as it is impossible for us to judge of this

for ourselves. Yet it will be our duty to use such reasonable cautions

as are in our power. Two occur to me. 1. To give him a clerk capable of

assisting and attending to his proceedings, and who, in case he thought

any thing was going amiss, might give us information. 2. Not to give him

a credit on Van Staphorst and Willinck, but let his drafts be made on

yourself, which, with the knowledge you will have of his proceedings,

will enable you to check them, if you are sensible of any abuse

intended. This will give you trouble; but as I have never found you

declining trouble, when it is necessary, I venture to propose it. I

hope it will not expose you to inconvenience, as by instructing Lambe to

insert in his drafts a proper usance, you can, in the mean time, raise

the money for them by drawing on Holland. I must inform you that Mr.

Barclay wishes to be put on the same footing with Mr. Lambe, as to

this article, and therefore I return you your letter of credit on Van

Staphorst &, Co. As to the first article, there is great difficulty.

There is nobody at Paris fit for the undertaking, who would be likely to

accept it. I mean there is no American, for I should be anxious to place

a native in the trust. Perhaps you can send us one from London. There

is a Mr. Randall there, from New York, whom Mr. Barclay thinks might be

relied on very firmly for integrity and capacity. He is there for his

health; perhaps you can persuade him to go to Algiers in pursuit of it.

If you cannot, I really know not what will be done. It is impossible

to propose to Bancroft to go in a secondary capacity. Mr. Barclay and

myself have thought of Cairnes, at L’Ori-ent, as a _dernier ressort_.

But it is uncertain, or rather improbable, that he will undertake it.

You will be pleased in the first place, to consider of my proposition

to send Lambe to Algiers; and in the next, all the circumstances before

detailed, as consequences of that.

The enclosed letter from Richard O’Bryan furnishes powerful motives

for commencing, by some means or other, the treaty with Algiers,

more immediately than would be done, if left on Mr. Barclay. You will

perceive by that, that two of our vessels, with their crews and cargoes,

have been carried captive into that port. What is to be done as to those

poor people? I am for hazarding the supplementary instruction to Lambe,

which accompanies these papers. Alter it, or reject it, as you please.

You ask what I think of claiming the Dutch interposition. I doubt the

fidelity of any interposition too much to desire it sincerely. Our

letters to this court, heretofore, seemed to oblige us to communicate

with them on the subject. If you think the Dutch would take amiss our

not applying to them, I will join you in the application. Otherwise, the

fewer who are apprized of our proceedings, the better. To communicate

them to the States of Holland, is to communicate them to the whole

world.

Mr. Short returned last night, and brought the Prussian treaty, duly

executed in English and French. We may send it to Congress by the Mr.

Fitzhughs going from hence. Will you draw and sign a short letter for

that purpose? I send you a copy of a letter received from the Marquis

Fayette. In the present unsettled state of American commerce, I had as

lieve avoid all further treaties, except with American powers. If Count

Merci, therefore, does not propose the subject to me, I shall not to

him, nor do more than decency requires, if he does propose it. I am,

with great esteem, Dear Sir,

your most obedient, humble servant,

Th: Jefferson.

LETTER CXIII.--TO F. HOPKINSON, September 25, 1785

TO F. HOPKINSON.

Paris, September 25, 1785.

Dear Sir,

My last to you was of the 6th of July. Since that, I have received yours

of July the 23rd. I do not altogether despair of making something of

your method of quilling, though, as yet, the prospect is not favorable.

I applaud much your perseverance in improving this instrument, and

benefiting mankind almost in spite of their teeth. I mentioned to

Piccini the improvement with which I am entrusted. He plays on the

piano-forte, and therefore did not feel himself personally interested.

I hope some better opportunity will yet fall in my way of doing it

justice. I had almost decided, on his advice, to get a piano-forte for

my daughter; but your last letter may pause me, till I see its effect.

Arts and arms are alike asleep for the moment. Ballooning indeed goes

on. There are two artists in the neighborhood of Paris, who seem to be

advancing towards the _desideratum_ in this business. They are able

to rise and fall at will, without expending their gas, and to deflect

forty-five degrees from the course of the wind.

I desired you in my last to send the newspapers, notwithstanding the

expense. I had then no idea of it. Some late instances have made me

perfectly acquainted with it. I have therefore been obliged to adopt

the following plan. To have my newspapers, from the different States,

enclosed to the office for Foreign Affairs, and to desire Mr. Jay to

pack the whole in a box, and send it by the packet as merchandise,

directed to the American consul at L’Orient, who will forward it to

me by the periodical wagons. In this way they will only cost me livres

where they now cost me guineas, I must pray you, just before the

departure of every French packet, to send my papers on hand to Mr. Jay,

in this way. I do not know whether I am subject to American postage

or not, in general; but I think newspapers never are. I have sometimes

thought of sending a copy of my Notes to the Philosophical Society, as

a tribute due to them: but this would seem as if I considered them as

worth something, which I am conscious they are not. I will not ask you

for your advice on this occasion, because it is one of those on which no

man is authorized to ask a sincere opinion. I shall therefore refer it

to further thoughts.

I am, with very sincere esteem, Dear Sir,

your friend and servant,

Th: Jefferson.

LETTER CXIV.--TO LISTER ASQUITH, September 26,1785

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