Mr. MAMANTOV. Mr. Bouhe----

Mr. JENNER. Bouhe, yourself, your wife?

Mr. MAMANTOV. My wife not so much--she is a Catholic.

Mr. JENNER. I see.

Mr. MAMANTOV. But she attended, and, of course, she did everything for

the sake of her children who are Greek Orthodox, and then Mrs.--oh,

gosh, what is her name--Mrs. Zinzade, Z-i-n-z-a-d-e [spelling]. Her

first name is Helen and his name is, I think, George, but I can look in

the telephone book later on.

Mr. JENNER. That's all right. Are all these people generally Russian

intellectuals?

Mr. MAMANTOV. No.

Mr. JENNER. Now, I call you an intellectual.

Mr. MAMANTOV. Right.

Mr. JENNER. I meant to imply that.

Mr. MAMANTOV. Put it this way--all of them have lower educational level

than I do, except De Mohrenschildt.

Mr. JENNER. De Mohrenschildt has a higher education, as you do?

Mr. MAMANTOV. Right.

Mr. JENNER. Most of these other people have the qualifications or are

interested in what?

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