CLEVELAND AND HIS CABINET.

_Question_. What do you think of Mr. Cleveland's Cabinet?

_Answer_. It is a very good Cabinet. Some objections have been

made to Mr. Lamar, but I think he is one of the very best. He is

a man of ability, of unquestioned integrity, and is well informed

on national affairs. Ever since he delivered his eulogy on the

life and services of Sumner, I have had great respect for Mr. Lamar.

He is far beyond most of his constituents, and has done much to

destroy the provincial prejudices of Mississippi. He will without

doubt make an excellent Secretary of the Interior. The South has

no better representative man, and I believe his appointment will,

in a little while, be satisfactory to the whole country. Bayard

stands high in his party, and will certainly do as well as his

immediate predecessor. Nothing could be better than the change in

the Department of Justice. Garland is an able lawyer, has been an

influential Senator and will, in my judgment, make an excellent

Attorney-General. The rest of the Cabinet I know little about,

but from what I hear I believe they are men of ability and that

they will discharge their duties well. Mr. Vilas has a great

reputation in Wisconsin, and is one of the best and most forcible

speakers in the country.

_Question_. Will Mr. Cleveland, in your opinion, carry out the

civil service reform he professes to favor?

_Answer_. I have no reason to suspect even that he will not. He

has promised to execute the law, and the promise is in words that

do not admit of two interpretations. Of course he is sincere. He

knows that this course will save him a world of trouble, and he

knows that it makes no difference about the politics of a copyist.

All the offices of importance will in all probability be filled by

Democrats. The President will not put himself in the power of his

opponents. If he is to be held responsible for the administration

he must be permitted to choose his own assistants. This is too

plain to talk about. Let us give Mr. Cleveland a fair show--and

let us expect success instead of failure. I admit that many

Presidents have violated their promises. There seems to be something

in the atmosphere of Washington that breeds promise and prevents

performance. I suppose it is some kind of political malarial

microbe. I hope that some political Pasteur will, one of these

days, discover the real disease so that candidates can be vaccinated

during the campaign. Until them, presidential promises will be

liable to a discount.

_Question_. Is the Republican party dead?

_Answer_. My belief is that the next President will be a Republican,

and that both houses will be Republican in 1889. Mr. Blaine was

defeated by an accident--by the slip of another man's tongue. But

it matters little what party is in power if the Government is

administered upon correct principles, and if the Democracy adopt

the views of the Republicans and carry out Republican measures, it

may be that they can keep in power--otherwise--otherwise. If the

Democrats carry out real Democratic measures, then their defeat is

certain.

_Question_. Do you think that the era of good feeling between the

North and the South has set in with the appointment of ex-rebels

to the Cabinet?

_Answer_. The war is over. The South failed. The Nation succeeded.

We should stop talking about South and North. We are one people,

and whether we agree or disagree one destiny awaits us. We cannot

divide. We must live together. We must trust each other. Confidence

begets confidence. The whole country was responsible for slavery.

Slavery was rebellion. Slavery is dead--so is rebellion. Liberty

has united the country and there is more real union, national

sentiment to-day, North and South, than ever before.

_Question_. It is hinted that Mr. Tilden is really the power behind

the throne. Do you think so?

_Answer_. I guess nobody has taken the hint. Of course Mr. Tilden

has retired from politics. The probability is that many Democrats

ask his advice, and some rely on his judgment. He is regarded as

a piece of ancient wisdom--a phenomenal persistence of the Jeffersonian

type--the connecting link with the framers, founders and fathers.

The power behind the throne is the power that the present occupant

supposes will determine who the next occupant shall be.

_Question_. With the introduction of the Democracy into power,

what radical changes will take place in the Government, and what

will be the result?

_Answer_. If the President carries out his inaugural promises

there will be no radical changes, and if he does not there will be

a very radical change at the next presidential election. The

inaugural is a very good Republican document. There is nothing in

it calculated to excite alarm. There is no dangerous policy

suggested--no conceited vagaries--nothing but a plain statement of

the situation and the duty of the Chief Magistrate as understood

by the President. I think that the inaugural surprised the Democrats

and the Republicans both, and if the President carries out the

program he has laid down he will surprise and pacify a large majority

of the American people.

--_Mail and Express_, New York, March 10, 1885.

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