RELIGIOUS PREJUDICE.

_Question_. Will a time ever come when political campaigns will

be conducted independently of religious prejudice?

_Answer_. As long as men are prejudiced, they will probably be

religious, and certainly as long as they are religious they will

be prejudiced, and every religionist who imagines the next world

infinitely more important than this, and who imagines that he gets

his orders from God instead of from his own reason, or from his

fellow-citizens, and who thinks that he should do something for

the glory of God instead of for the benefit of his fellow-citizens

--just as long as they believe these things, just so long their

prejudices will control their votes. Every good, ignorant, orthodox

Christian places his Bible above laws and constitutions. Every

good, sincere and ignorant Catholic puts pope above king and

president, as well as above the legally expressed will of a majority

of his countrymen. Every Christian believes God to be the source

of all authority. I believe that the authority to govern comes

from the consent of the governed. Man is the source of power, and

to protect and increase human happiness should be the object of

government. I think that religious prejudices are growing weaker

because religious belief is growing weaker. And these prejudices

--should men ever become really civilized--will finally fade away.

I think that a Presbyterian, to-day, has no more prejudice against

an Atheist than he has against a Catholic. A Catholic does not

dislike an Infidel any more than he does a Presbyterian, and I

believe, to-day, that most of the Presbyterians would rather see

and Atheist President than a pronounced Catholic.

_Question_. Is Agnosticism gaining ground in the United States?

_Answer_. Of course, there are thousands and thousands of men who

have now advanced intellectually to the point of perceiving the

limit of human knowledge. In other words, at last they are beginning

to know enough to know what can and cannot be known. Sensible men

know that nobody knows whether an infinite God exists or not.

Sensible men know that an infinite personality cannot, by human

testimony, be established. Sensible men are giving up trying to

answer the questions of origin and destiny, and are paying more

attention to what happens between these questions--that is to say,

to this world. Infidelity increases as knowledge increases, as

fear dies, and as the brain develops. After all, it is a question

of intelligence. Only cunning performs a miracle, only ignorance

believes it.

_Question_. Do you think that evolution and revealed religion are

compatible--that is to say, can a man be an evolutionist and a

Christian?

_Answer_. Evolution and Christianity may be compatible, provided

you take the ground that Christianity is only one of the links in

the chain, one of the phases of civilization. But if you mean by

Christianity what is generally understood, of course that and

evolution are absolutely incompatible. Christianity pretends to

be not only the truth, but, so far as religion is concerned, the

whole truth. Christianity pretends to give a history of religion

and a prophecy of destiny. As a philosophy, it is an absolute

failure. As a history, it is false. There is no possible way by

which Darwin and Moses can be harmonized. There is an inexpressible

conflict between Christianity and Science, and both cannot long

inhabit the same brain. You cannot harmonize evolution and the

atonement. The survival of the fittest does away with original sin.

_Question_. From your knowledge of the religious tendency in the

United States, how long will orthodox religion be popular?

_Answer_. I do not think that orthodox religion is popular to-day.

The ministers dare not preach the creed in all its naked deformity

and horror. They are endeavoring with the vines of sentiment to

cover up the caves and dens in which crawl the serpents of their

creed. Very few ministers care now to speak of eternal pain. They

leave out the lake of fire and brimstone. They are not fond of

putting in the lips of Christ the loving words, "Depart from me,

ye cursed." The miracles are avoided. In short, what is known as

orthodoxy is already unpopular. Most ministers are endeavoring to

harmonize what they are pleased to call science and Christianity,

and nothing is now so welcome to the average Christian as some work

tending to show that, after all, Joshua was an astronomer.

_Question_. What section of the United States, East, West, North,

or South, is the most advanced in liberal religious ideas?

_Answer_. That section of the country in which there is the most

intelligence is the most liberal. That section of the country

where there is the most ignorance is the most prejudiced. The

least brain is the most orthodox. There possibly is no more

progressive city in the world, no more liberal, than Boston.

Chicago is full of liberal people. So is San Francisco. The brain

of New York is liberal. Every town, every city, is liberal in the

precise proportion that it is intelligent.

_Question_. Will the religion of humanity be the religion of the

future?

_Answer_. Yes; it is the only religion now. All other is

superstition. What they call religion rests upon a supposed relation

between man and God. In what they call religion man is asked to

do something for God. As God wants nothing, and can by no possibility

accept anything, such a religion is simply superstition. Humanity

is the only possible religion. Whoever imagines that he can do

anything for God is mistaken. Whoever imagines that he can add to

his happiness in the next world by being useless in this, is also

mistaken. And whoever thinks that any God cares how he cuts his

hair or his clothes, or what he eats, or whether he fasts, or rings

a bell, or puts holy water on his breast, or counts beads, or shuts

his eyes and says words to the clouds, is laboring under a great

mistake.

_Question_. A man in the Swaim Court Martial case was excluded as

a witness because he was an Atheist. Do you think the law in the

next decade will permit the affirmative oath?

_Answer_. If belief affected your eyes, your ears, any of your

senses, or your memory, then, of course, no man ought to be a

witness who had not the proper belief. But unless it can be shown

that Atheism interferes with the sight, the hearing, or the memory,

why should justice shut the door to truth?

In most of the States of this Union I could not give testimony.

Should a man be murdered before my eyes I could not tell a jury

who did it. Christianity endeavors to make an honest man an outlaw.

Christianity has such a contemptible opinion of human nature that

it does not believe a man can tell the truth unless frightened by

a belief in God. No lower opinion of the human race has ever been

expressed.

_Question_. Do you think that bigotry would persecute now for

religious opinion's sake, if it were not for the law and the press?

_Answer_. I think that the church would persecute to-day if it

had the power, just as it persecuted in the past. We are indebted

for nearly all our religious liberty to the hypocrisy of the church.

The church does not believe. Some in the church do, and if they

had the power, they would torture and burn as of yore. Give the

Presbyterian Church the power, and it would not allow an Infidel

to live. Give the Methodist Church the power and the result would

be the same. Give the Catholic Church the power--just the same.

No church in the United States would be willing that any other

church should have the power. The only men who are to be angels

in the next world are the ones who cannot be trusted with human

liberty in this; and the man who are destined to live forever in

hell are the only gentlemen with whom human liberty is safe. Why

should Christians refuse to persecute in this world, when their

God is going to in the next?

--_Mail and Express_, New York, January 12, 1885.

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