General WALKER. The fact that there has not been, as far as I know, any
finding of the man who attempted to kill him, is another one.
Mr. LIEBELER. You mentioned previously that Reynolds had said that the
law enforcement--you didn't say Reynolds said it--you said that you
understood that the law enforcement officers had checked Reynolds just
2 days before he had been shot; is that correct?
General WALKER. That is correct.
Mr. LIEBELER. That is what Reynolds told you?
General WALKER. That is correct. I believe he referred to them as FBI.
Mr. LIEBELER. Do you have any other indications of any possible
relationship between these things, that would help the Commission try
to find out if there is a relationship between these events?
General WALKER. I don't think of anything else; no.
Mr. LIEBELER. Now you sent a telegram to the Commission suggesting that
we question Warren Reynolds?
General WALKER. Yes, sir.
Mr. LIEBELER. As you probably know, of course, we have questioned him
yesterday.
General WALKER. Yes, sir.
Mr. LIEBELER. Did you discuss Mr. Reynolds' appearance with us, with
him?
General WALKER. I did. He called me on the telephone and we discussed
it. He said you were a very nice young man.
Mr. LIEBELER. Thank you, General Walker. Thank Mr. Reynolds. You didn't
say that. That is what he said. That isn't what you said.
General WALKER. I may call him tonight and tell him the same thing.
I think we are working in the same effort and same direction. I haven't
done anything to hide on this thing. I do ask that you all get the
chain of command straightened out here, or chain of responsibility with
respect to the case.
Mr. LIEBELER. Those problems come up many times because there isn't any
real chain of command or responsibility between these people. We don't
have very much to do with the Dallas Police Department.
General WALKER. When they pass things to the FBI and the FBI is
responsible to you, then it gives me a feeling it is probably out of
their hands. Certainly they have used that.
Mr. LIEBELER. Now do you have any knowledge or any information that
would indicate that Oswald was involved in a conspiracy of any type on
the assassination of the President?
General WALKER. I think he designated his own conspiracy when he said
he was a member of the Fair Play for Cuba Committee. That to me is a
definite recognition of conspiracy.
Mr. LIEBELER. Suggesting that the Fair Play for Cuba Committee was
involved?
General WALKER. I would say as a member of the Fair Play for Cuba
Committee, it could not be segregated from being involved in it when
one of its members does it, who thinks like they do.
Mr. LIEBELER. Well, that is of course, your view. My question of you
is this. Do you have any evidence or any knowledge that would indicate
either the involvement of the Fair Play for Cuba Committee or any other
individual or organization in a conspiracy or plot to assassinate the
President.
The fact that Oswald may have been a member of this organization, which
he was, of course, is a fact that can be viewed from many different
ways. But my question to you is somewhat different from that, and
that is, do you know of or have any evidence to indicate that this
organization or any other organization or any other person was involved
with Oswald in the assassination of the President?
General WALKER. My answer to you is that I have exactly the evidence
that you have, which is evidence that it was involved in the
conspiracy, because he said he was a member of the Fair Play for Cuba
Committee, and I consider the objectives of the Fair Play for Cuba
Committee a Communist activity and a conspiracy.
Mr. LIEBELER. Do you know if anyone discussed the assassination with
Oswald prior to the time that he assassinated the President, if he did
the assassination; do you have any indication of that?
General WALKER. I have no personal knowledge that they did.
Mr. LIEBELER. Do you have any indication that they did?
General WALKER. I certainly do.
Mr. LIEBELER. Would you tell us what that is?
General WALKER. The indications seem to be not only mine, but all over
the country that Rubenstein and Oswald had some association.
Mr. LIEBELER. Can you indicate to us what it was?
General WALKER. Well, I am wondering about one thing, how Rubenstein
can take his car in to be fixed and Oswald can sign the ticket and pick
up the car.
Mr. LIEBELER. Now can you tell us when and where that happened?
General WALKER. I haven't been able to verify that it happened for
sure, but I have been told that it happened.
Mr. LIEBELER. Who told you that?
General WALKER. My information came from a repairman, from another
fellow to a friend of mine, to me.
Mr. LIEBELER. Could you give us the name of the person?
General WALKER. I don't think it is necessary. I think you have all the
information, because the information also includes the fact that the
records were picked up in the repair shop.
Mr. LIEBELER. Whether we have the information or not, I am asking you
if you know the name of that repairman who said that Oswald said he
picked up his car?
General WALKER. No; I don't.
Mr. LIEBELER. Do you know the name of the garage?
General WALKER. No; I don't. As I remember, it was a hotel garage.
Mr. LIEBELER. Can you give us the name of the people that brought the
information to you, so it can be traced back to this source? Who the
garageman is, apparently as you say, that it came from a garageman
somewhere.
General WALKER. No; I think your sources are better than mine on this.
Mr. LIEBELER. That is not my question. My question is, do you know
their names?
General WALKER. Yes; I do, but I am not telling.
Mr. LIEBELER. So you are not going to tell us the names of these people?
General WALKER. Hold up. Off the record.
(Discussion off the record.)
General WALKER. We are all working in the best interests of this thing.
I don't see where my sources of information have to be revealed. You
know whether the information is any good or not, and I don't see any
reason to get any more people involved than are already involved
in it. The information is either correct or incorrect, and can be
substantiated by your Commission, or it is not.
This that I am telling you is the information I have got. Now, if you
all find out that it is absolutely necessary to your information,
but revelation of the names of the people isn't necessary to your
information with regard to the assassination. I think we have covered
the assassination, and--as helpful as I can be--don't think I wouldn't
be delighted to see exactly all the truth that can probably come out of
it, come out of it.
Mr. LIEBELER. All we are asking you to do is give us whatever
information you have that can help us in this investigation.
General WALKER. That I think we have covered, haven't we?
Mr. LIEBELER. I don't know whether we have or not.
General WALKER. If you find out you need the further information that
will really help the assassination story--we will leave it like this--I
will do the best I can to cooperate on it, but I don't think it is
necessary to reveal all the sources of my information, and the story
which you all should have the basic facts. The basic facts are the
records on the story and you either know whether or not they are true
or not. I haven't done all this investigation.
Mr. LIEBELER. Well, I am not able to make a determination as to
whether or not the information that you have would be helpful to the
Commission's work because I don't know what information you have.
General WALKER. Let's leave that, because if it is in the best interest
of finding anything, that there is a hole in their findings, why we
will reveal it.
Mr. LIEBELER. I am going to let the question stand. I do ask you to
tell me who advised you or who apprised you of information that
Oswald picked up Jack Ruby's car, because I am not able to make a
determination as to whether or not that information would be worthless
to the Commission. It might be helpful and it it might be that these
people should be questioned by people on the Commission staff or by the
FBI. So for that reason, I am compelled to let the question stand, and
I do renew my request for you to give me the answer.
General WALKER. I will answer that at some later date if you find it
necessary, I will reconsider it.
Mr. LIEBELER. Now, aside from the matter we have just discussed, can
you tell us what other common acquaintances Mr. Ruby and Mr. Oswald
had, as that is the statement that started all this? You indicated that
Ruby and Oswald had common acquaintances.
General WALKER. I thought DeMar's statements--I believe the man is
DeMar--were very interesting, and they were only by hearsay from the
newspaper, if you call that hearsay.
Mr. LIEBELER. Do you have any other indication that Oswald and Ruby
were connected?
General WALKER. I am going back on the other question. I say it was
only from newspapers. They have been also from the owner or editor of
the newspaper, who may have told me that his reporter had been in touch
with DeMar. I believe the town is on the Tennessee-Kentucky border or
somewhere up there. I don't recall the name of the town where he was at
the time.
Mr. LIEBELER. This is DeMar that was up there?
General WALKER. Yes. Have I got the right name? DeMar is the man that
was on the program in one of Rubenstein's clubs.
Mr. LIEBELER. The name seems familiar to me. I don't know the man's
name actually myself.
General WALKER. As I recall, it was DeMar, the one that made the
original statement that he saw Oswald in the club one night. That was
printed in the press.
Mr. LIEBELER. Aside from the fellow DeMar having made the statement, do
you know of any other connection between Ruby and Oswald or any other
common acquaintances that they may have?
General WALKER. I believe we verified that Oswald had been for a short
period living in the same apartment house where Ruby's sister lived.
Mr. LIEBELER. What is Ruby's sister's name?
General WALKER. Eva Grant.
Mr. LIEBELER. Do you know what apartment house that is?
General WALKER. No; I don't recall.
Mr. LIEBELER. Who verified this?
General WALKER. I say I believe I verified it.
Mr. LIEBELER. You did yourself?
General WALKER. With assistance.
Mr. LIEBELER. Now, you are telling me that you conducted an
investigation of some sort into the possibility that Ruby's sister, Eva
Grant, and Oswald lived in the same apartment house? Now is that in the
city of Dallas?
General WALKER. That is correct. And as I recall the address, I never
did pinpoint it, but as I recall, it wouldn't be too far from where I
live. And of course, I am still interested in my case with respect to
Oswald, if there is any significance.
Mr. LIEBELER. Now can you tell me when they were supposed to have lived
in this apartment house?
General WALKER. I don't recall the date.
Mr. LIEBELER. Was it 1963?
General WALKER. This is getting pretty old in my mind. It definitely
would have been in 1963; yes.
Mr. LIEBELER. 1963?
General WALKER. Right.
Mr. LIEBELER. Was the apartment on Neely Street, if you remember?
General WALKER. As I recall--is Neely over in Oak Cliff or on this side?
Mr. LIEBELER. It is in Oak Cliff.
General WALKER. No; it wasn't that far away.
Mr. LIEBELER. It wasn't in Oak Cliff at all?
General WALKER. Well, I had the idea at the time that it was on this
side of town, out the side I am on.
Mr. LIEBELER. Well, from the time Oswald came back from the Soviet
Union and moved to Dallas and the time he was killed, he lived in an
apartment on Neely Street, and on Elsbeth Street and in a room on
Marsalis Street, and 1026 North Beckley Street. Those are the only four
places he ever lived. Was it on any one of those four streets that this
is supposed to have happened?
General WALKER. I can't recall definitely. Are they over in Oak Cliff?
Mr. LIEBELER. I believe each and every one of them, with the possible
exception of Marsalis, is.
General WALKER. I can get the information that I must have recorded
somewhere on the address we have.
Mr. LIEBELER. If you have any indication that Oswald lived in the same
apartment house that Ruby's sister lived, I will appreciate it very
much if you would supply it to the Commission.
General WALKER. Take a note on that, will you. I believe there is a
paper release on it.
Mr. LIEBELER. Do you have any other information that would indicate any
connection between Ruby and Oswald? By that question I do not mean to
characterize the previous testimony.
General WALKER. If Oswald was the one that was at my house, I wonder
where he was from the time he left until he got home, since the Las
Vegas Club is not too far from my house.
Mr. LIEBELER. Do you have any indication that Oswald went to that club?
General WALKER. No; I don't.
Mr. LIEBELER. Do you have any other information that would suggest a
connection between these two men?
General WALKER. I think the two boxes in the post office are very
interesting.
Mr. LIEBELER. Well, are you suggesting that because two men both
happened to have post office boxes in the same post office, that that
suggests there is some connection between them and indicates conspiracy
to assassinate the President?
General WALKER. The boxes were rented the same week.
Mr. LIEBELER. Were what?
General WALKER. I believe the boxes were arranged the same week in the
post office.
Mr. LIEBELER. Rented?
General WALKER. Rented.
Mr. LIEBELER. You think that suggests a conspiracy between Oswald and
Ruby to assassinate the President?
General WALKER. I think that is more information.
Mr. LIEBELER. But I want to know.
General WALKER. That suggests a possible relationship. I think the fact
that Rubenstein shot Oswald suggests plenty. I am convinced he couldn't
have shot him except for one basic reason, and maybe many others, but
to keep him quiet. That is what shooting people does. I think the
whole city of Dallas is very interested. I would be interested in the
information on a Professor Wolf, William T. Wolf.
Mr. LIEBELER. Who is he?
General WALKER. William T.
Mr. LIEBELER. What information is that?
General WALKER. The first man we found in the paper that seemed to have
come to death after the attempted shot at me.
Mr. LIEBELER. I am not familiar with the circumstances surrounding
that. Would you tell me about Dr. Wolf?
General WALKER. William T. Wolf is a professor that was supposedly
burned up in an apartment, which seems impossible to have burned a man
up, a normal man with his normal faculties, because the apartment, he
couldn't have been trapped in it on the first floor.
Mr. LIEBELER. Did you know Dr. Wolf?
General WALKER. Never heard of him until I read about him in the paper,
and I believe I read about him 8 days after they shot at me.
Mr. LIEBELER. You think there is some connection between Dr. Wolf's
death and the shot at you?
General WALKER. No; but I think there is some connection with respect
to what is going on in Dallas.
Mr. LIEBELER. Well, now, does this relate to the possibility of a
conspiracy between Oswald and Ruby to assassinate President Kennedy?
General WALKER. I think many unusual deaths in the city of Dallas might
show some indication of what is going on in Dallas, to include what
happened on the 22d of November. And I would refer to one other, a
professor by the name of Deen. His name is George C. Deen.
Mr. LIEBELER. What has that got to do with the assassination of
President Kennedy? What are the facts about it?
General WALKER. I would think it has to do with the investigation.
Mr. LIEBELER. Well, in what way?
General WALKER. It seems rather mysterious that a young doctor of
psychiatry at Timberlawn would, so far as I can tell, only show up in
the obituary page.
Mr. LIEBELER. What happened to this fellow?
General WALKER. Reported died of natural causes, I believe, or
certainly nothing more than the obituary, so far as I can find.
Mr. LIEBELER. Are you familiar with the organization known as The
Minutemen?
General WALKER. In general terms.
Mr. LIEBELER. Are you a member of that organization?
General WALKER. I am not.
Mr. LIEBELER. Do you know of any connection between The Minutemen and
the assassination of President Kennedy?
General WALKER. I do not.
Mr. LIEBELER. Do you know of any conspiracy or connection on the part
of any so-called rightwing organization and the assassination of
President Kennedy?
General WALKER. I do not.
Mr. LIEBELER. Do you know of any connection between any of the people
who associate themselves with and who, shall we say, follow you as a
political leader, and the assassination of President Kennedy?
General WALKER. No. People that follow me are for constitutional
government. This is absolutely in violation of constitutional
government. Very destructive to what we stand for.
Mr. LIEBELER. So you say that there is no involvement of any kind
or nature whatever between any of the organizations or people that
associate with you or are involved with you in the assassination of
President Kennedy?
General WALKER. I certainly know of none, and I certainly wouldn't be
suspicious of any. I would be suspicious from the center to the left.
Mr. LIEBELER. In any event, you don't have any knowledge of or
information that would suggest to you any such conspiracy or
involvement of any rightwing organization or person; is that correct?
General WALKER. That is correct.
Mr. LIEBELER. Now, I asked General Watts to bring whatever records you
have that would indicate your whereabouts in October and after that
in 1963. Particularly, I want to know whether you were at a political
rally or meeting that was held immediately prior to the visit of Adlai
Stevenson to the city of Dallas in October of 1963.
General WALKER. Yes, I was the speaker on the day before Mr. Stevenson
appeared in the auditorium. I was the speaker in the same room and the
same platform on October 22.
Mr. LIEBELER. Was that event called U.S. Day?
General WALKER. U.S. Day rally.
Mr. LIEBELER. How many people would you say were there at that rally?
General WALKER. The room holds about 1,700 seats, and there were about
1,300 to 1,400.
Mr. LIEBELER. Were you aware of the fact that Lee Harvey Oswald claims
to have been at that meeting?
General WALKER. No, sir; I wasn't.
Mr. LIEBELER. You didn't know he was there at the time?
General WALKER. I don't know yet.
Mr. LIEBELER. In any event, you didn't know then?
General WALKER. Certainly didn't.
Mr. LIEBELER. Do you recall speaking--pardon me, not speaking, but
going to any meetings of anti-Castro Cuban groups during the month of
October 1963?
General WALKER. During what month?
Mr. LIEBELER. October.
General WALKER. I don't remember a date of attendance.
Mr. LIEBELER. Isn't it a fact that there were some meetings here
in Dallas sponsored by an organization known as DRE, which is a
revolutionary group that is opposed to Fidel Castro? Do you remember
that?
General WALKER. What does DRE stand for?
Mr. LIEBELER. It is the initials of a lot of Spanish words which
stands for the Student Revolutionary Council. It is an anti-Castro
organization.
General WALKER. What does DRE stand for? How would they have advertised
themselves?
Mr. LIEBELER. I think it is probably DRE.
General WALKER. Meaning what?
Mr. LIEBELER. It is Spanish words I am not familiar with.
General WALKER. Well, there is a student directorate group, which I
remember they call themselves, and that is the way they identified
themselves. I attended a meeting sometime and listened to some speakers.
Mr. LIEBELER. They came from Miami?
General WALKER. I believe they came from Miami.
Mr. LIEBELER. And you contributed $5 to the organization that night?
General WALKER. I believe I did.
Mr. LIEBELER. Did you see Lee Harvey Oswald at that meeting?
General WALKER. No; I did not.
Mr. LIEBELER. In point of fact, it would be correct to state that, to
your knowledge, you never saw or heard of Lee Harvey Oswald at any time
prior to the time that his name was announced after the assassination
on November 22, 1963?
General WALKER. That is correct.
Mr. LIEBELER. You had no connection of any sort whatsoever with him
prior to that time?
General WALKER. None at all.
Mr. LIEBELER. Or since that time?
General WALKER. Or with anybody that I ever knew that was associated
with him, unless Duff turns out to be.
General WATTS. Off the record.
(Discussion off the record.)
Mr. LIEBELER. Do you know Helmet Hubert Muench?
General WALKER. That name is not familiar to me. Can you give me
anything to refresh me?
Mr. LIEBELER. Yes. He is a West German journalist who wrote an article
that appeared in the Deutsche Nationalzeitung und Soldatenzeitung, a
Munich, Germany, newspaper.
General WALKER. No; I don't know him.
Mr. LIEBELER. Did you ever talk to him?
General WALKER. Not that I know of.
Mr. LIEBELER. Did you talk to him on a transatlantic telephone call in
which you told him about the fact or the alleged fact that Lee Harvey
Oswald was the person who made an attempt on your life?
General WALKER. I don't recall that name. Did he speak English? I don't
speak German.
Mr. LIEBELER. Have you ever seen a copy of that newspaper?
General WALKER. Yes; I have.
Mr. LIEBELER. In fact, I suggest that you have seen the November 29,
1963, copy of that newspaper which had on its front page a story
entitled in German "The Strange Case of Oswald", that told about how
Oswald had allegedly attacked you.
General WALKER. November 29, that is correct.
Mr. LIEBELER. Now, where did that newspaper get that information, do
you know?
General WALKER. I do not. There was an article in the paper that he
probably got from me.
Mr. LIEBELER. Well, in fact, the issue of that newspaper has right
on the front page what purports to be a transcript of a telephone
conversation between you and some other person.
General WALKER. Thorsten?
Mr. LIEBELER. Yes. Hasso Thorsten, is that the man?
General WALKER. He called me in Shreveport.
Mr. LIEBELER. When were you in Shreveport?
General WALKER. He called me the morning of November 23, 1963, about 7
a.m.
Mr. LIEBELER. That is when you gave him this information about Oswald
having attacked you?
General WALKER. I didn't give him all the information--I think the
portion you are referring to, I didn't give him, because I had no way
of knowing that Oswald attacked me. I still don't. And I am not very
prone to say in fact he did. In fact, I have always claimed he did not,
until we can get into the case or somebody tells us differently that he
did.
Mr. LIEBELER. Do you have a record here that indicates when you were in
Shreveport?
General WALKER. I don't know that I have a record here. I can tell you
definitely when I was in Shreveport.
Mr. LIEBELER. Would you?
General WALKER. Well, starting back to make the record clear, I had a
speaking engagement in Hattiesburg, Miss., either the 18th or 19th of
November. I went from there to New Orleans and stayed 2 or 3 days. I
was in the airplane between New Orleans and Shreveport about halfway,
when the pilot announced that the President had been assassinated. I
landed in Shreveport and went to the Captain Shreve Hotel and stayed
there two nights and returned to Dallas and was walking into my house,
just about the time of the immediate rerun of the shooting of Oswald. I
had been out of the city on speaking engagements.
Mr. LIEBELER. The question was, when were you in Shreveport, and when
did you talk to this man?
General WALKER. I was in Shreveport the night of the 23d and the night
of the 22d. Do you have a transcript of my conversation with Mr.
Thorsten?
Mr. LIEBELER. Yes, sir.
General WALKER. Sir?
Mr. LIEBELER. I have what appears to be that; yes.
General WALKER. Where did you get that?
Mr. LIEBELER. It is apparently taken from the newspaper. The newspaper
itself had a transcript printed right in it.
General WALKER. I believe the article you referred to in the newspaper
was separate from the other article in the paper which evolved out of
the conversation.
Mr. LIEBELER. Now so that there were in this particular issue of the
newspaper two transcripts of a conversation between yourself and
Thorsten, and also a story about how Oswald had allegedly fired at you,
is that correct?
General WALKER. In the newspaper I remember two separate articles. One
based upon the conversation we had between us, as he understood it, and
then as a separate article which I consider that the newspaper had done
on its own.
Mr. LIEBELER. What was the separate article about? Did that have any
reference to the fact that Oswald had allegedly fired at you?
General WALKER. Yes. As I remember the article, it alleged that Oswald
was the one that had fired at me, and that this had been known earlier,
and that this had been known and that nothing was done about it.
And if something had been done about it at that time, he wouldn't have
been the man that--it wouldn't have been possible for him to have
killed the President.
Mr. LIEBELER. Well, now, did you tell anybody from this newspaper that
Oswald had shot at you and that this had been known prior to the time
of the assassination of the President?
General WALKER. No; I did not. I wouldn't have known it. It was much
later that they began to tie Oswald into me, and I don't even know it
yet.
Mr. LIEBELER. And you certainly didn't know it before November 22?
General WALKER. Or the morning of the 23d, certainly not. I was very
surprised to see the article.
Mr. LIEBELER. So the best of your recollection is that you never
provided them with the information?
General WALKER. I did not. I didn't know it at the time of this
conversation at all. I didn't know it until I started reading the
newspaper, which would have been later than then.
Mr. LIEBELER. I think that is right, so that you only had two
conversations with these people, is that correct?
General WALKER. In connection with this incident, as I remember, there
was a call back to verify something on the original conversation?
I don't remember how the conversation came about. There were two
telephone conversations; right.
Mr. LIEBELER. They both took place while you were down in Louisiana,
the 23d and the 22d of November?
General WALKER. The first one was 7 o'clock in the morning the 23d, and
it woke me up.
Mr. LIEBELER. You didn't have the faintest idea that Oswald had taken
a shot at you and you didn't make a statement to that effect to the
newspaper?
General WALKER. No; I didn't know.
Mr. LIEBELER. You didn't make a statement to the newspaper or anybody
connected with it at any other time, isn't that a fact?
General WALKER. No.
Mr. LIEBELER. Is it not a fact?
General WALKER. I might have said that the reports over here had
connected Oswald with me some subsequent time.
Mr. LIEBELER. I am somewhat puzzled by the whole thing, because the
newspaper in which this apparently appeared is dated November 29, and
in fact, that information was not known to anybody that I know of until
a later date than that----
General WALKER. Much later.
Mr. LIEBELER. Several days, at any rate.
General WALKER. People began to guess it immediately. I should say
guess at it.
Mr. LIEBELER. It might have been that the article was based on
speculation, and it might have been the newspaper was postdated too. I
think that sometimes happens.
General WALKER. I think that paper was definitely postdated.
Mr. LIEBELER. Yes; that would explain it. That is what I mean, predated.
General WALKER. That is something else.
Mr. LIEBELER. Do you have any other information that you think the
Commission ought to have that we haven't already talked about?
General WALKER. Yes. I think the Commission should look into George De
Mohrenschildt, if it hasn't.
Mr. LIEBELER. What do you know about Mr. De Mohrenschildt?
General WALKER. I know that my information indicates that he lived next
door to the professor that was supposed to have burned up.
Mr. LIEBELER. Do you have any information that would connect De
Mohrenschildt to the assassination of President Kennedy in any way?
General WALKER. I have the information the paper had that connected him
with the Oswalds.
Mr. LIEBELER. Yes?
General WALKER. Of course, it is common knowledge that De Mohrenschildt
was associated with Oswald now.
Mr. LIEBELER. Other than that, do you have any information to indicate
that De Mohrenschildt was involved in any way with the assassination of
President Kennedy?
General WALKER. Not directly.
General WATTS. Do you have any indirect evidence?
General WALKER. I am tired of them blaming the rightwing, and I have
had enough of this, and it is about time that the Commission cleared
the city of Dallas.
Mr. LIEBELER. Well, now, do you have any indirect indication or
evidence that would associate De Mohrenschildt with the assassination
of President Kennedy in any way?
General WALKER. I think it is very important that De Mohrenschildt
knew Oswald. I think it is very interesting. My information is that De
Mohrenschildt went to Haiti. I have nothing further to add.
Mr. LIEBELER. Now, is there anything else that you think the Commission
ought to know that we have not already mentioned here this evening? It
is now 7:15.
General WALKER. Where am I at?
Mr. LIEBELER. I didn't mean to suggest--I just wanted to let the record
show we are both working very hard.
General WALKER. I will stay here all night.
Mr. LIEBELER. If you have anything else that you think the Commission
should know or that you consider to be of material importance, I want
you to say so, General Walker, because I think that you have--I hope
you realize that the Commission is trying to do the best job that it
can with the situation, and that if you can be of help to us, or if
anybody else could be of help to us, we want your help.
General WALKER. That is my approach to the problem. We certainly want
the truth. We want the truth to come out.
General WATTS. Off the record.
(Discussion off the record.)
General WALKER. I believe it has been released to the press that, and
I am not sure that it has, but some information has gotten to me, I
can't recall how, but the bullet that was fired at me matched the gun
of the type that Oswald used on the 22d. That sounds rather vague, but
I believe that is the way the information has come.
General WATTS. This is off the record.
(Discussion off the record.)
Mr. LIEBELER. General Watts has indicated that he had some ammunition
the investigators got from Mr. Duff and I request you to forward that
ammunition, to deliver it to the FBI in Oklahoma City and ask them
to forward it to the FBI laboratory, and I will contact the FBI in
Washington when I get back.
General WALKER. Don't you want to clarify that where they found that in
the apartment, wasn't it?
General WATTS. Yes. I will get the investigator and get the detailed
source of the ammunition and turn the ammunition over to the FBI in
Oklahoma City.
General WALKER. I can think of nothing else that I am not sure hasn't
already come to the Commission one way or another.
Mr. LIEBELER. Very well. I have no more questions. I want to thank you
very much for coming down and appearing before us and giving us the
testimony you have. We appreciate it.
General WALKER. Thank you very much. If I can do anything further for
you, we will be happy to.