Mr. LIEBELER. My understanding is, of course, that you are here under
subpena and subpena duces tecum, asking you to bring with you any
records that you might have in your office indicating or reflecting
Oswald's visit, and my understanding is that you indicated that you
were unable to find any such records.
Mr. ANDREWS. Right. My office was rifled shortly after I got out of the
hospital, and I talked with the FBI people. We couldn't find anything
prior to it. Whoever was kind enough to mess my office up, going
through it, we haven't found anything since.
Mr. LIEBELER. You have caused a thorough search to be made of your
office for these records?
Mr. ANDREWS. Yes.
Mr. LIEBELER. You haven't been able to come up with anything?
Mr. ANDREWS. No.
Mr. LIEBELER. Did there come a time after the assassination when you
had some further involvement with Oswald, or at least an apparent
involvement with Oswald; as I understand it?
Mr. ANDREWS. No; nothing at all with Oswald. I was in Hotel Dieu, and
the phone rang and a voice I recognized as Clay Bertrand asked me if I
would go to Dallas and Houston--I think--Dallas, I guess, wherever it
was that this boy was being held--and defend him. I told him I was sick
in the hospital. If I couldn't go, I would find somebody that could go.
Mr. LIEBELER. You told him you were sick in the hospital and what?
Mr. ANDREWS. That's where I was when the call came through. It came
through the hospital switchboard. I said that I wasn't in shape enough
to go to Dallas and defend him and I would see what I could do.
Mr. LIEBELER. Now what can you tell us about this Clay Bertrand? You
met him prior to that time?
Mr. ANDREWS. I had seen Clay Bertrand once some time ago, probably a
couple of years. He's the one who calls in behalf of gay kids normally,
either to obtain bond or parole for them. I would assume that he was
the one that originally sent Oswald and the gay kids, these Mexicanos,
to the office because I had never seen those people before at all. They
were just walk-ins.
Mr. LIEBELER. You say that you think you saw Clay Bertrand some time
about 2 years prior to the time you received this telephone call that
you have just told us about?
Mr. ANDREWS. Yes; he is mostly a voice on the phone.
Mr. LIEBELER. What day did you receive the telephone call from Clay
Bertrand asking you to defend Oswald?
Mr. ANDREWS. I don't remember. It was a Friday or a Saturday.
Mr. LIEBELER. Immediately following the assassination?
Mr. ANDREWS. I don't know about that. I didn't know. Yes; I did.
I guess I did because I was--they told me I was squirrelly in the
hospital.
Mr. LIEBELER. You had pneumonia; is that right?
Mr. ANDREWS. Yes.
Mr. LIEBELER. And as I understand it, you were under heavy sedation at
that time in connection with your treatment for pneumonia?
Mr. ANDREWS. Yes; this is what happened: After I got the call, I called
my secretary at her home and asked her if she had remembered Lee Harvey
Oswald's file. Of course, she didn't remember, and I had to tell her
about all the kooky kids. She thought we had a file in the office. I
would assume that he would have called subsequent to this boy's arrest.
I am pretty sure it was before the assassination. I don't know.
Mr. LIEBELER. You don't mean before the assassination--don't you mean
before Oswald had been shot? After the assassination and before Oswald
had been shot?