Mr. PIC. Well, my wife being a Yankee----

Mr. JENNER. Why did you bring him a coffee pot?

Mr. PIC. My wife in her Yankee ways believed when you don't see people

a long time you bring them a gift. It's just a token. We brought my

brother Robert a present, a set of dishes I had in Japan, I bought

them in Japan, and so naturally we couldn't give them anything without

giving the other people something.

Mr. JENNER. It isn't the fact that you brought him a gift. I can

understand that. That would be, I might be even a little surprised

if you hadn't. It is the particular gift in which I am interested.

Why did you select a coffee pot? Was there something that led to that

particular selection on your part?

Mr. PIC. No, sir; we didn't know what really to bring them, and my wife

says, it was one of these glass coffee pots that you put the candle

under, you see, it wasn't a regular percolator. It was one of these

that a hostess always likes to have available to pour coffee out of.

Mr. JENNER. I see.

Mr. PIC. And my wife had one, and she liked it so she figured we would

give them one.

Mr. JENNER. All right.

Tell us everything that occurred on that day, what he said, what Robert

said that is pertinent, what you said, things that occurred, just

completely exhaust your recollection.

Mr. PIC. Well, Lee informed us that he was working at some type

photography printing company.

Mr. JENNER. In Dallas?

Mr. PIC. Yes, sir; in Dallas.

Mr. JENNER. You were advised during the course of that day he was then

at that time living in Dallas?

Mr. PIC. Yes, sir; that is what he said.

Mr. JENNER. And working in some kind of photographic work in Dallas?

Mr. PIC. Yes, sir.

Mr. JENNER. All right.

Mr. PIC. I said he referred to their living conditions.

Mr. JENNER. What did he say?

Mr. PIC. They had a one-room, I think it was one room. They ate

and slept in the same room, I believe. They had no radio, no TV.

That Marina, when they first arrived, was really astounded about

supermarkets. Every time she went in one she lost control of herself.

Marina herself wore no lipstick, very plainly dressed. Lee appeared to

be a good father in that he would relieve Marina the burden of holding

the child and taking care of it.

Mr. JENNER. How was he attired when you met him at the bus station?

Mr. PIC. He had on a sport jacket and tie. Sports jacket and tie.

Mr. JENNER. He was clean and neat?

Mr. PIC. Yes, sir.

Mr. JENNER. How did Marina and your brother Lee appear to be getting

along?

Mr. PIC. Well, sir; being they only spoke Russian to each other, I

don't know what they said but they appeared to be just like any other

married couple married a year or 2.

Mr. JENNER. Was there any conversation during the course of the day in

which you participated or overheard as to Marina's undertaking to learn

English?

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