Interviewer's Comment

Mr. Howard seems to be a very kind old man, lives in the house for aged

colored people (The Alpha Home).

He has no relatives, except a brother. He seems well satisfied living in

the home.

Submitted January 10, 1938

Indianapolis, Indiana

Grace Monroe

Dist. 4

Jefferson County

SLAVE STORY

MR. MATTHEW HUME, A FORMER SLAVE

Mr. Hume had many interesting experiences to tell concerning the part

slavery had played in his family. On the whole they were fortunate in

having a good master who would not keep an overseer who whipped his

"blacks".

His father, Luke Hume, lived in Trimble County Kentucky and was allowed

to raise for himself one acre of tobacco, one acre of corn, garden

stuff, chickens and have the milk and butter from one cow. He was

advised to save his money by the overseer, but always drank it up. On

this plantation all the slaves were free from Saturday noon until Monday

morning and on Christmas and the Fourth of July. A majority of them

would go to Bedford or Milton and drink, gamble and fight. On the

neighboring farm the slaves were treated cruelly. Mr. Hume had a

brother-in-law, Steve Lewis, who carried marks on his back. For years he

had a sore that would not heal where his master had struck him with a

blacksnake whip.

Three good overseers were Jake Mack and Mr. Crafton, Mr. Daniel Payne

was the owner who asked his people to report any mistreatment to him. He

expected obedience however.

When Mr. Hume was a small boy he was placed in the fields to hoe. He

also wanted a new implement. He was so small he was unable to keep near

enough to the men and boys to hear what they were talking about, he

remembered bringing up the rear one day, when he saw a large rock he

carefully covered it with dirt, then came down hard on it breaking his

hoe. He missed a whipping and received a new tool to replace the old

one, after this he could keep near enough to hear what the other workers

were talking about.

Another of his duties was to go for the cattle, he had to walk around

the road about a mile, but was permitted to come back through the fields

about a quarter of a mile. One afternoon his mistress told him to bring

a load of wood when he came in. In the summer it was the custom to have

the children carry the wood from the fields. When he came up he saw his

mistress was angry this peeved him, so that he stalked into the hall and

slammed his wood into the box. About this time his mistress shoved him

into a small closet and locked the door. He made such a howl that he

brought his mother and father to the rescue and was soon released from

his prison.

As soon as the children were old enough they were placed in the fields

to prepare the ground for setting tobacco plants. This was a very

complicated procedure. The ground was made into hills, each requiring

about four feet of soil. The child had to get all the clods broken fine.

Then place his foot in the center and leave his track. The plants were

to be set out in the center and woe to the youngster who had failed to

pulverize his hill. After one plowing the tobacco was hand tended. It

was long green and divided into two grades. It was pressed by being

placed in large hogsheads and weighted down. On one occasion they were

told their tobacco was so eaten up that the worms were sitting on the

fence waiting for the leaves to grow but nevertheless in some manner his

master hid the defects and received the best price paid in the

community.

The mistress on a neighboring plantation was a devout Catholic, and had

all the children come each Sunday after-noon to study the catechism and

repeat the Lord's Prayer. She was not very successful in training them

in the Catholic faith as when they grew up most of them were either

Baptists or Methodists. Mr. Hume said she did a lot of good in leading

them to Christ but he did not learn much of the catechism as he only

attended for the treat. After the service they always had candy or a cup

of sugar.

On the Preston place there was a big strapping negro of eighteen whom

the overseer attempted to whip receiving the worst of it. He then went

to Mr. Hume's owner and asked for help but was told he would have to

seek elsewhere for help. Finally some one was found to assist. Smith was

tied to a tree and severely beaten, then they were afraid to untie him,

when the overseer finally ventured up and loosened the ropes, Smith

kicked him as hard as he could and ran to the Payne estate refusing to

return. He was a good helper here where he received kind treatment.

A bad overseer was discharged once by Mr. Payne because of his cruelty

to Mr. Luke Hume. The corncrib was a tiny affair where a man had to

climb out one leg at a time, one morning just as Mr. Hume's father was

climbing out with his feed, he was struck over the head with a large

club, the next morning he broke the scoop off an iron shovel and

fastened the iron handle to his body. This time he swung himself from

the door of the crib and seeing the overseer hiding to strik him he

threw his bar, which made a wound on the man's head which did not knock

him out. As soon as Mr. Payne heard of the disturbance the overseer was

discharged and Mr. Mack placed in charge of the slaves.

One way of exacting obedience was to threaten to send offenders South to

work in the fields. The slaves around Lexington, Kentucky, came out

ahead on one occasion. The collector was Shrader. He had the slaves

handcuffed to a large leg chain and forced on a flat boat. There were

so many that the boat was grounded, so some of the slaves were released

to push the boat off. Among the "blacks" was one who could read and

write. Before Shrader could chain them up again, he was seized and

chained, taken to below Memphis Tennessee and forced to work in the

cotton fields until he was able to get word from Richmond identifying

him. In the meantime the educated negro issued freedom papers to his

companions. Many of them came back to Lexington, Kentucky where they

were employed.

Mr. Hume thought the Emancipation Proclamation was the greatest work

that Abraham Lincoln ever did. The colored people on his plantation did

not learn of it until the following August. Then Mr. Payne and his sons

offered to let them live on their ground with conditions similar to our

renting system, giving a share of the crop. They remained here until

Jan. 1, 1865 when they crossed the Ohio at Madison. They had a cow which

had been given them before the Emancipation Proclamation was issued but

this was taken away from them. So they came to Ind. homeless, friendless

and penniless.

Mr. Hume and his aged wife have been married 62 years and resided in the

same community for 55 years where they are highly respected by all their

neighbors.

He could not understand the attitude of his race who preferred to remain

in slavery receiving only food and shelter, rather than to be free

citizens where they could have the right to develop their individualism.

Virginia Tulley

District #2

Fort Wayne, Indiana

EX-SLAVE OF ALLEN COUNTY

[MRS. HENRIETTA JACKSON]

References:

A. Ft. Wayne News Sentinel November 21, 1931

B. Personal interview

[TR: There are no 'A' and 'B' annotations in the interview.]

Mrs. Henrietta Jackson, Fort Wayne resident, is distinguished for two

reasons; she is a centennarian and an ex-slave. Residing with her

daughter, Mrs. Jackson is very active and helps her daughter, who

operates a restaurant, do some of the lighter work. At the time I

called, an August afternoon of over 90 degrees temperature, Mrs.

Jackson was busy sweeping the floor. A little, rather stooped, shrunken

body, Mrs. Jackson gets around slowly but without the aid of a cane or

support of any kind. She wears a long dark cotton dress with a bandana

on her head with is now quite gray. Her skin is walnut brown her eyes

peering brightly through the wrinkles. She is intelligent, alert,

cordial, very much interested in all that goes on about her.

Just how old Mrs. Jackson is, she herself doesn't know, but she thinks

she is about 105 years old. She looks much younger. Her youngest child

is 73 and she had nine, two of whom were twins. Born a slave in

Virginia, record of her birth was kept by the master. She cannot

remember her father as he was soon sold after Mrs. Jackson's death [TR:

birth?]. When still a child she was taken from her mother and sold. She

remembers the auction block and that she brought a good price as she was

strong and healthy. Her new master, Tom Robinson, treated her well and

never beat her. At first she was a plough hand, working in the cotton

fields, but then she was taken into the house to be a maid. While there

the Civil War broke out. Mrs. Jackson remembers the excitement and the

coming and going. Gradually the family lost its wealth, the home was

broken up. Everything was destroyed by the armies. Then came freedom for

the slaves. But Mrs. Jackson stayed on with the master for awhile. After

leaving she went to Alabama where she obtained work in a laundry

"ironing white folks' collars and cuffs." Then she got married and in

1917 she came to live with her daughter in Fort Wayne. Her husband, Levy

Jackson, has been dead 50 years. Of her children, only two are left.

Mrs. Jackson is sometimes very lonesome for her old home in "Alabamy",

where her friends lived, but for the most part, she is happy and

contented.

Federal Writers' Project

of the W.P.A.

District #6

Marion County

Anna Pritchett

1200 Kentucky Avenue

FOLKLORE

MRS. LIZZIE JOHNSON

706 North Senate Avenue, Apt. 1

Mrs. Johnson's father, Arthur Locklear, was born in Wilmington, N.C. in

1822. He lived in the South and endured many hardships until 1852. He

was very fortunate in having a white man befriend him in many ways. This

man taught him to read and write. Many nights after a hard days work, he

would lie on the floor in front of the fireplace, trying to study by the

light from the blazing wood, so he might improve his reading and

writing.

He married very young, and as his family increased, he became ambitious

for them. Knowing their future would be very dark if they remained

South.

He then started a movement to come north. There were about twenty-six or

twenty-eight men and women, who had the same thoughts about their

children, banded together, and in 1852 they started for somewhere,

North.

The people selected, had to be loyal to the cause of their children's

future lives, morally clean, truthful, and hard-working.

Some had oxen, some had carts. They pooled all of their scant

belongings, and started on their long hard journey.

The women and children rode in the ox-carts, the men walked. They would

travel a few days, then stop on the roadside to rest. The women would

wash their few clothes, cook enough food to last a few days more, then

they would start out again. They were six weeks making the trip.

Some settled in Madison, Indiana. Two brothers and their families went

on to Ohio, and the rest came to Indianapolis.

John Scott, one of their number was a hod carrier. He earned $2.50 a

day, knowing that would not accumulate fast enough, he was strong and

thrifty. After he had worked hard all day, he would spend his evenings

putting new bottoms in chairs, and knitting gloves for anyone who wanted

that kind of work. In the summer he made a garden, sold his vegetables.

He worked very hard, day and night, and was able to save some money.

He could not read or write, but he taught his children the value of

truthfulness, cleanliness of mind and body, loyalty, and thrift. The

father and his sons all worked together and bought some ground, built a

little house where the family lived many years.

Before old Mr. Scott died, he had saved enough money to give each son

$200.00. His bank was tin cans hidden around in his house.

Will Scott, the artist, is a grandson of this John Scott.

The thing these early settlers wanted most, was for their children to

learn to read and write. So many of them had been caught trying to learn

to write, and had had their thumbs mashed, so they would not be able to

hold a pencil.

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