* There had been a previous consultation at the President’s

(about the first week in November) on the expediency of

suspending payments to France, under her present situation.

I had admitted that the late constitution was dissolved by

the dethronement of the King; and the management of affairs

surviving to the National Assembly only, this was not an

integral legislature, and therefore not competent to give a

legitimate discharge for our payments: that I thought

consequently, that none should be made till some legitimate

body came into place; and that I should consider the

National Convention, called, but not met as we had yet

heard, to be a legitimate body. Hamilton doubted whether it

would be a legitimate body, and whether, if the King should

be re-established, he might not disallow such payments on

good grounds. Knox, for once, dared to differ from Hamilton,

and to express, very submissively, an opinion, that a

convention named by the whole body of the nation, would be

competent to do any thing. It ended by agreeing, that I

should write to Gouverneur Morris to suspend payment

generally, till further orders.

November the 19th, 1792. Beckley brings me the pamphlet written by

Hamilton, before the war, in answer to ‘Common Sense.’ It is entitled

‘Plain Truth.’ Melancthon Smith sends it to Beckley, and in his letter

says, it was not printed in New York by Loudon, because prevented by a

mob, and was printed in Philadelphia, and that he has these facts from

Loudon.

November the 21st, 1792. Mr. Butler tells me, that he dined last winter

with Mr. Campbell from Denmark, in company with Hamilton, Lawrence, Dr.

Shippen, T. Shippen, and one other person whom he cannot recollect. That

after dinner political principles became the subject of conversation;

that Hamilton declared openly, that ‘there was no stability, no security

in any kind of government but a monarchy.’ That Lawrence took him

up, and entered the lists of argument against him; that the dispute

continued long, and grew warm, remarkably so as between them; that

Shippen, at length, joined Lawrence in it; and in fine, that it broke up

the company. Butler recommended to the company, that the dispute having

probably gone farther than was intended, it ought to be considered as

confined to the company.

Thursday, December the 27th, 1792. I waited on the President on some

current business. After this was over, he observed to me, that he

thought it was time to endeavor to effect a stricter connection with

France, and that Gouverneur Morris should be written to on this subject.

He went into the circumstances of dissatisfaction between Spain and

Great Britain, and us, and observed, there was no nation on whom we

could rely, at all times, but France; and that, if we did not prepare

in time some support, in the event of rupture with Spain and England,

we might be charged with a criminal negligence. I was much pleased with

the tone of these observations. It was the very doctrine which had been

my polar star, and I did not need the successes of the republican arms

in France, lately announced to us, to bring me to these sentiments.

For it is to be noted, that on Saturday last, (the 22nd) I received Mr.

Short’s letters of October the 9th and 12th, with the Leyden gazettes to

October the 13th, giving us the first news of the retreat of the Duke of

Brunswick, and the capture of Spires and Worms by Custine, and that

of Nice by Anselme. I therefore expressed to the President my cordial

approbation of these ideas; told him, I had meant on that day (as an

opportunity of writing by the British packet would occur immediately) to

take his orders for removing the suspension of payments to France, which

had been imposed by my last letter to Gouverneur Morris, but was meant,

as I supposed, only for the interval between the abolition of the late

constitution by the dethronement of the King, and the meeting of some

other body, invested by the will of the nation with powers to transact

their affairs; that I considered the National Convention, then

assembled, as such a body; and that, therefore, we ought to go on with

the payments to them, or to any government they should establish; that,

however, I had learned last night, that some clause in the bill for

providing reimbursement of the loan made by the bank to the United

States, had given rise to a question before the House of Representatives

yesterday, which might affect these payments; a clause in that bill

proposing, that the money formerly borrowed in Amsterdam, to pay the

French debt, and appropriated by law (1790, August 4th, c. 34. § 2.) to

that purpose, lying dead as was suggested, should be taken to pay the

bank, and the President be authorized to borrow two millions of dollars

more, out of which it should be replaced: and if this should be done,

the removal of our suspension of payments, as I had been about to

propose, would be premature. He expressed his disapprobation of the

clause above mentioned; thought it highly improper in the legislature to

change an appropriation once made, and added, that no one could tell in

what that would end. I concurred, but observed, that on a division of

the House, the ayes for striking out the clause were twenty-seven, the

noes twenty-six; whereon the Speaker gave his vote against striking out,

which divides the House: the clause for the disappropriation remained

of course. I mentioned suspicions, that the whole of this was a trick

to serve the bank under a great existing embarrassment; that the debt to

the bank was to be repaid by instalments; that the first instalment was

of two hundred thousand dollars only, or rather one hundred and sixty

thousand dollars, (because forty thousand of the two hundred thousand

dollars would be the United States’ own dividend of the instalment.) Yet

here were two millions to be paid them at once, and to be taken from a

purpose of gratitude and honor, to which it had been appropriated.

December the 30th, 1792. I took the occasion furnished by Pinckney’s

letter of September the 19th, asking instructions how to conduct himself

as to the French revolution, to lay down the catholic principle of

republicanism, to wit, that every people may establish what form of

government they please, and change it as they please; the will of the

nation being the only thing essential. I was induced to do this, in

order to extract the President’s opinion on the question which divided

Hamilton and myself in the conversation of November, 1792, and the

previous one of the first week of November, on the suspension of

payments to France: and if favorable to mine, to place the principle on

record in the letter-books of my office. I therefore wrote the letter

of December the 30th, to Pinckney, and sent it to the President, and he

returned me his approbation in writing, in his note of the same date,

which see.

February the 7th, 1793. I waited on the President with letters and

papers from Lisbon. After going through these, I told him that I had for

some time suspended speaking with him on the subject of my going out

of office, because I had understood that the bill for intercourse with

foreign nations was likely to be rejected by the Senate, in which case,

the remaining business of the department would be too inconsiderable to

make it worth while to keep it up. But that the bill being now passed, I

was freed from the considerations of propriety which had embarrassed me.

That &c. [nearly in the words of a letter to Mr. T. M. Randolph, of

a few days ago,] and that I should be willing, if he had taken no

arrangements to the contrary, to continue somewhat longer, how long I

could not say, perhaps till summer, perhaps autumn. He said, so far from

taking arrangements on the subject, he had never mentioned to any mortal

the design of retiring which I had expressed to him, till yesterday,

when having heard that I had given up my house, and that it was rented

by another, he thereupon mentioned it to Mr. E. Randolph, and asked him,

as he knew my retirement had been talked of, whether he had heard

any persons suggested in conversation to succeed me. He expressed his

satisfaction at my change of purpose and his apprehensions that my

retirement would be a new source of uneasiness to the public. He

said Governor Lee had that day informed him of the general discontent

prevailing in Virginia, of which he never had had any conception,

much less sound information. That it appeared to him very alarming. He

proceeded to express his earnest wish that Hamilton and myself could

coalesce in the measures of the government, and urged here the general

reasons for it, which he had done to me in two former conversations.

He said he had proposed the same thing to Hamilton, who expressed

his readiness, and he thought our coalition would secure the general

acquiescence of the public. I told him my concurrence was of much less

importance than he seemed to imagine; that I kept myself aloof from all

cabal and correspondence on the subject with the government, and saw and

spoke with as few as I could. That as to a coalition with Mr. Hamilton,

if by that was meant that either was to sacrifice his general system

to the other, it was impossible. We had both, no doubt, formed our

conclusions after the most mature consideration; and principles

conscientiously adopted, could not be given up on either side. My wish

was, to see both Houses of Congress cleansed of all persons interested

in the bank or public stocks: and that a pure legislature being given

us, I should always be ready to acquiesce under their determinations,

even if contrary to my own opinions; for that I subscribe to the

principle, that the will of the majority, honestly expressed, should

give law. I confirmed him in the fact of the great discontents to

the south; that they were grounded on seeing that their judgments

and interests were sacrificed to those of the eastern States on every

occasion, and their belief that it was the effect of a corrupt squadron

of voters in Congress, at the command of the Treasury; and they see that

if the votes of those members who had any interest distinct from,

and contrary to the general interest of their constituents, had been

withdrawn, as in decency and honesty they should have been, the laws

would have been the reverse of what they are on all the great questions.

I instanced the new Assumption carried in the House of Representatives

by the Speaker’s vote. On this subject he made no reply. He explained

his remaining in office to have been the effect of strong solicitations

after he returned here; declaring that he had never mentioned his

purpose of going out but to the Heads of departments and Mr. Madison; he

expressed the extreme wretchedness of his existence while in office,

and went lengthily into the late attacks on him for levees, &c.

and explained to me how he had been led into them by the persons he

consulted at New York; and that if he could but know what the sense of

the public was, he would most cheerfully conform to it.

February the 16th, 1793. E. Randolph tells J. Madison and myself, a

curious fact which he had from Lear. When the President went to New

York, he resisted for three weeks the efforts to introduce levees. At

length he yielded, and left it to Humphreys and some others to settle

the forms. Accordingly, an antechamber and presence-room were provided,

and when those who were to pay their court were assembled, the President

set out, preceded by Humphreys. After passing through the antechamber,

the door of the inner room was thrown open, and Humphreys entered first,

calling out with a loud voice, ‘The President of the United States.’ The

President was so much disconcerted with it, that he did not recover it

the whole time of the levee, and when the company was gone, he said

to Humphreys, ‘Well, you have taken me in once, but, by God, you shall

never take me in a second time.’

There is reason to believe that the rejection of the late additional

Assumption by the Senate was effected by the President through Lear,

operating on Langdon. Beckley knows this.

February the 26th, 1793. Notes on the proceedings of yesterday. [See the

formal opinions given to the President in writing, and signed.]

First question. We were all of opinion that the treaty should proceed

merely to gratify the public opinion, and not from an expectation of

success. I expressed myself strongly, that the event was so unpromising,

that I thought the preparations for a campaign should go on without the

least relaxation, and that a day should be fixed with the commissioners

for the treaty, beyond which they should not permit the treaty to be

protracted, by which day, orders should be given for our forces to enter

into action. The President took up the thing instantly, after I had said

this, and declared he was so much in the opinion that the treaty would

end in nothing, that he then, in the presence of us all, gave orders to

General Knox, not to slacken the preparations for the campaign in the

least, but to exert every nerve in preparing for it. Knox said something

about the ultimate day for continuing the negotiations. I acknowledged

myself not a judge on what day the campaign should begin, but that

whatever it was, that day should terminate the treaty. Knox said he

thought a winter campaign was always the most efficacious against the

Indians. I was of opinion, since Great Britain insisted on furnishing

provisions, that we should offer to repay. Hamilton thought we should

not.

Second question. I considered our right of preemption of the

Indian lands, not as amounting to any dominion, or jurisdiction, or

paramountship whatever, but merely in the nature of a remainder after

the extinguishment of a present right, which gave us no present right

whatever, but of preventing other nations from taking possession, and so

defeating our expectancy; that the Indians had the full, undivided, and

independent sovereignty as long as they chose to keep it, and that this

might be for ever; that as fast as we extend our rights by purchase from

them, so fast we extend the limits of our society, and as soon as a new

portion became encircled within our line, it became a fixed limit of

our society: that the executive, with either or both branches of the

legislature, could not alien any part of our territory; that by the

law of nations it was settled, that the unity and indivisibility of

the society was so fundamental, that it could not be dismembered by the

constituted authorities, except, 1. where all power was delegated to

them (as in the case of despotic governments,) or, 2. where it was

expressly delegated; that neither of these delegations had been made

to our General Government, and, therefore, that it had no right

to dismember or alienate any portion of territory once ultimately

consolidated with us; and that we could no more cede to the Indians

than to the English or Spaniards, as it might, according to acknowledged

principles, remain as irrevocably and eternally with the one as the

other. But I thought, that, as we had a right to sell and settle lands

once comprehended within our lines, so we might forbear to exercise

that right, retaining the property, till circumstances should be more

favorable to the settlement, and this I agreed to do in the present

instance, if necessary for peace.

Hamilton agreed to the doctrine of the law of nations, as laid down in

Europe, but that it was founded on the universality of settlement there;

consequently that no lopping-off of territory could be made without a

lopping-off of citizens, which required their consent; but that the law

of nations for us, must be adapted to the circumstance of our unsettled

country, which he conceived the President and Senate may cede: that

the power of treaty was given to them by the constitution, without

restraining it to particular objects; consequently that it was given in

as plenipotentiary a form as held by any sovereign in any other society.

Randolph was of opinion, there was a difference between a cession to

Indians and to any others, because it only restored the ceded part to

the condition in which it was before we bought it, and consequently,

that we might buy it again hereafter: therefore, he thought the

executive and Senate could cede it. Knox joined in the main opinion. The

President discovered no opinion, but he made some efforts to get us to

join in some terms which could unite us all, and he seemed to direct

those efforts more towards me: but the thing could not be done.

Third question. We agreed in idea as to the line to be drawn; to wit, so

as to retain all lands appropriated, or granted, or reserved.

Fourth question. We all thought, if the Senate should be consulted, and

consequently apprized of our line, it would become known to Hammond, and

we should lose all chance of saving any thing more at the treaty than

our ultimatum.

The President, at this meeting, mentioned the declaration of some

person, in a paper of Fenno, that he would commence an attack on the

character of Dr. Franklin. He said, the theme was to him excessively

disagreeable on other considerations, but most particularly so, as

the party seemed to do it as a means of defending him (the President)

against the late attacks on him: that such a mode of defence would be

peculiarly painful to him, and he wished it could be stopped. Hamilton

and Randolph undertook to speak to Fenno to suppress it, without

mentioning it as the President’s wish. Both observed, that they had

heard this declaration mentioned in many companies, and that it had

excited universal horror and detestation.

The paper in Fenno must lie between two persons, viz. Adams and Izard,

because they are the only persons who could know such facts as are there

promised to be unfolded. Adams is an enemy to both characters, and might

choose this ground as an effectual position to injure both. Izard hated

Franklin with unparalleled bitterness, but humbly adores the President,

because he is in _loco regis_. If the paper proceeds, we shall easily

discover which of these two gentlemen is the champion. In the mean time,

the first paper leads our suspicions more towards Izard than Adams, from

the circumstance of style, and because he is quite booby enough not to

see the injury he would do to the President by such a mode of defence.

February the 28th. Knox, E. Randolph, and myself met at Knox’s, where

Hamilton was also to have met, to consider the time, manner, and place

of the President’s swearing in. Hamilton had been there before, and

had left his opinion with Knox; to wit, that the President should ask

a judge to attend him in his own house to administer the oath, in the

presence of the Heads of departments; which oath should be deposited in

the Secretary of State’s office. I concurred in this opinion. Randolph

was for the President’s going to the Senate chamber to take the oath,

attended by the marshal of the United States, who should then make

proclamation, &c. Knox was for this, and for adding the House of

Representatives to the presence, as they would not yet be departed. Our

individual opinions were written, to be communicated to the President,

out of which he might form one. In the course of our conversation,

Knox, stickling for parade, got into great warmth, and swore that our

government must either be entirely new modeled, or it would be knocked

to pieces in less than ten years; and that, as it is at present, he

would not give a copper for it; that it is the President’s character,

and not the written constitution which keeps it together.

Same day. Conversation with Lear. He expressed the strongest confidence

that republicanism was the universal creed of America, except of a very

few; that a republican administration must of necessity immediately

overbear the contrary faction; said that he had seen with extreme

regret, that a number of gentlemen had for a long time been endeavoring

to instil into the President, that the noise against the administration

of the government was that of a little faction, which would soon be

silent, and which was detested by the people, who were contented and

prosperous: that this very party, however, began to see their error, and

that the sense of America was bursting forth to their conviction.

March the 2nd, 1793. See, in the papers of this date, Mr. Giles’s

resolutions. He and one or two others were sanguine enough to believe,

that the palpableness of these resolutions rendered it impossible the

House could reject them. Those who knew the composition of the House, 1.

of bank directors, 2. holders of bank stock, 3. stock-jobbers, 4. blind

devotees, 5. ignorant persons who did not comprehend them, 6. lazy and

good-humored persons, who comprehended and acknowledged them, yet were

too lazy to examine, or unwilling to pronounce censure; the persons who

knew these characters, foresaw, that the three first descriptions making

one third of the House, the three latter would make one half of the

residue; and of course, that they would be rejected by a majority of

two to one. But they thought, that even this rejection would do good, by

showing the public the desperate and abandoned dispositions with which

their affairs were conducted. The resolutions were proposed, and nothing

spared to present them in the fulness of demonstration. There were not

more than three or four who voted otherwise than had been expected.

March the 30th, 1793. At our meeting at the President’s, February the

25th, in discussing the question, whether we should furnish to France

the three millions of livres desired, Hamilton, in speaking on the

subject, used this expression; ‘When Mr. Genet arrives, whether we

shall receive him or not, will then be a question for discussion’; which

expression I did not recollect till E. Randolph reminded me of it a few

days after. Therefore, on the 20th instant, as the President was shortly

to set out for Mount Vernon, I observed to him, that as Genet might

arrive in his absence, I wished to know beforehand how I should treat

him, whether as a person who would or would not be received. He said, he

could see no ground of doubt, but that he ought to be received. On the

24th, he asked E. Randolph’s opinion on the subject, saying, he had

consulted Colonel Hamilton thereon, who went into lengthy considerations

of doubt and difficulty, and viewing it as a very unfortunate thing,

that the President should have the decision of so critical a point

forced on him; but in conclusion, said, since he was brought into that

situation, he did not see but that he must receive Mr. Genet. Randolph

told the President, he was clear he should be received, and the

President said, he had never had any doubt on the subject in his mind.

Afterwards on the same day, he spoke to me again on it, and said, Mr.

Genet should unquestionably be received; but he thought not with too

much warmth or Cordiality, so only as to be satisfactory to him. I

wondered at first at this restriction: but when Randolph afterwards

communicated to me his conversation of the 24th, I became satisfied it

was a small sacrifice to the opinion of Hamilton.

March the 31st. Mr. Beckley tells me, that the merchants’ bonds for

duties on six months’ credit became due the 1st instant, to a very great

amount; that Hamilton went to the bank on that day, and directed the

bank to discount for those merchants all their bonds at thirty days,

and that he would have the collectors credited for the money at the

treasury. Hence, the treasury lumping its receipts by the month in its

printed accounts, these sums will be considered by the public as only

received on the last day; consequently, the bank makes the month’s

interest out of it. Beckley had this from a merchant, who had a bond

discounted, and who supposes a million of dollars were discounted at the

bank here. Mr. Brown got the same information from another merchant,

who supposed only six hundred thousand dollars discounted here. But they

suppose the same orders went to all the branch banks to a great amount.

Eodem die. Mr. Brown tells me he has it from a merchant here, that

during the last winter, the directors of the bank ordered the freest

discounts. Every man could obtain it. Money being so flush, the six per

cents run up to twenty-one and twenty-two shillings. Then the directors

sold out their private stocks. When the discounted notes were becoming

due, they stopped discounts, and not a dollar was to be had. This

reduced six per cents to eighteen shillings and three pence; then the

same directors bought in again.

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