Mr. DULLES. Mr. Ball, could we get the time element?
Mr. BALL. I am going to bring that in.
Mr. DULLES. All right. I will bide my time.
Mr. BALL. You went over to the front of the building, did you?
Mr. WILLIAMS. Yes.
Mr. BALL. And you saw your two friends, Norman and Jarman?
Mr. WILLIAMS. Yes.
Mr. BALL. You had known them before?
Mr. WILLIAMS. Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL. Now, do you know what time that was?
Mr. WILLIAMS. I do not know the exact time.