I think that was him.

Mr. BALL. What part of the sixth floor were you working that morning?

Mr. WILLIAMS. On the west side.

Mr. BALL. Were you moving stock or laying floor that morning?

Mr. WILLIAMS. We were doing both.

Mr. BALL. You were doing both?

Mr. WILLIAMS. Yes, sir.

Mr. BALL. The west side of the sixth floor--you mean the whole west

side, or was there a certain part--northwest or southwest or middle?

Mr. WILLIAMS. I believe it was the whole west side, because we had to

go from window to window--from the elevator to the front window facing

Elm Street--we were laying the floor parallel.

Mr. BALL. Did you see Oswald on the sixth floor that morning?

Mr. WILLIAMS. I am not sure. I think I saw him once messing around with

some cartons or something, back over the east side of the building. But

he wasn't in the window that they said he shot the President from. He

was more on the east side of the elevator, I think, messing around with

cartons, because he always just messed around, kicking cartons around.

Mr. BALL. What was his job?

Mr. WILLIAMS. His job was an order filler.

Mr. BALL. What do you mean by that?

Mr. WILLIAMS. I mean by that an order filler--when orders come in for

the State schools mostly, from Austin, he would take the orders and

fill the orders.

If the orders called for a certain amount of books, he would fill that

order, and turn it in to be checked, to be shipped out.

Mr. BALL. You say he would fill the order. He would go and get books?

Mr. WILLIAMS. He would get books. As an order filler you had access to

all the floors, all seven floors.

Mr. BALL. And were the cartons that you are talking about containers of

books?

Mr. WILLIAMS. Yes, they were.

Mr. BALL. Would a checker--would an order filler go to the different

floors and take books out of cartons?

Mr. WILLIAMS. Yes, sir. The order filler would have to, in order to

fill the order--he would have to move around to each floor, and take

the books that he needs.

Mr. BALL. Then where would he take the books?

Mr. WILLIAMS. Down to the first floor.

Mr. BALL. And what was on the first floor?

Mr. WILLIAMS. The first floor is where the checkers, the freight, and

all--they are checking the books to go out, and also where they wrap

the books.

Mr. BALL. And were there certain men down there wrapping books?

Mr. WILLIAMS. Certain men wrapping, checking, weighing, et cetera.

Mr. DULLES. Did you have a schedule somewhere posted up so that you

knew which books were on which floor when an order came in? You would

know whether to go to the sixth floor or what floor to go to get the

particular books that were wanted?

Mr. WILLIAMS. Well, as I remember, I don't know too much about the

building.

Mr. DULLES. You were not in the order filling business?

Mr. WILLIAMS. No, sir; not in that department.

At the other building. I was just transferred to that building.

I don't think you really had any schedule to go by, or anything to show

you where the books were. You just asked the older fellows that had

been there were certain books--if you are looking for a certain book,

they would tell you where to find it.

Mr. BALL. This morning, when you think you saw Oswald on the sixth

floor, can you tell us about where he was?

Mr. WILLIAMS. Well, as I said before, I am not sure that he was really

on the sixth floor. But he was always around that way. In the place I

think I saw him was as the east elevator come up to the sixth floor, he

was on that side of the elevator.

Mr. BALL. I have here a diagram of the sixth floor which I will have

marked as Exhibit 483.

(The document referred to was marked Commission Exhibit No. 483 for

identification.)

Mr. BALL. First of all, this is Houston Street, and the top is

north--east and west. Here is Elm Street.

Mr. WILLIAMS. This would be the east elevator.

Mr. BALL. This is the east elevator, west elevator and the stairway.

Now, can you take this and show us about where your men were working

laying floor on that sixth floor?

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